Re: [O] Problem with shift-up [solved]
Hi Peter, Peter Frings writes: > Yes, I did. I did find the offending command. Hooray! Great -- thanks for sharing! > (setq org-replace-disputed-keys t) > > Was set in the init.el file of the starter-kit. > > Now, is it just me or is the relation between this variable and > ‘org-support-shift-select’ slightly confusing? Mhh... maybe. I need to investigate further. If you have time to investigate on your side, please share your results! > Thanks for the patience and the support! You're welcome, Best, -- Bastien
Re: [O] Problem with shift-up [solved]
Hello all, On 19 Aug 2011, at 22:10, Bastien wrote: > Let us know if you make progress, Yes, I did. I did find the offending command. Hooray! (setq org-replace-disputed-keys t) Was set in the init.el file of the starter-kit. Now, is it just me or is the relation between this variable and ‘org-support-shift-select’ slightly confusing? Anyway, it now works the way I want. Yippie! Thanks for the patience and the support! Peter.
Re: [O] Problem with shift-up
Good morning all, I’ve got some answers for Bastien and Ista below. On 19 Aug 2011, at 22:10, Bastien wrote: > Peter Frings writes: > >> When loading the starter-kit from Kieran Healy [1], > > AFAIU, this starter-kit relies on the commit c88c76b of Org: > https://github.com/kjhealy/emacs-starter-kit/tree/master/src > > Please make sure to report what your exact version of Org is (M-x > org-version), that might help. org-mode 7.7. However, it does not seem like an org problem since it works fine with a minimal org set-up. >> In both cases, 'shift-select-mode’ is t. > > What is the value of `org-support-shift-select'? Maybe the > starter-kit is setting this variable. nil >> What the heck is ‘translating’ this key binding? > > When a composed keybinding like does not point to any command, > Emacs "translates" it to and use the associated command instead. > >> How can I find the guilty one so I can do very cruel things to it? > > I suggest you ask to the author of the starter-kit :) Might not be a bad idea :-) On 19 Aug 2011, at 22:37, Ista Zahn wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Peter Frings wrote: > > (windmove-default-keybindings) is called in > starter-kit-keybindings.org, and this does take of the shift + > direction keys. The 'Helpful packages' section of starter-kit-org.org > also looks suspicious. Sorry, I forgot to mention… I disabled those windmove-default-keybindings and bound the windmove keys to A-M-left and friends. I also disabled those in the starter-kit-org. I fear that debugging this issue will take way too much time from my work. I might go back to something simpler, although I was appealed to the neat structure and the use of org mode of setting up emacs. But that same neatness and de-structuring makes the whole thing a bit opaque. Thanks for the suggestions, and I’m open for more! :-) Cheers, Peter.
Re: [O] Problem with shift-up
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Peter Frings wrote: > Hi gang, > > sorry to bother you all again, but my transition to the new emacs is now > taking days and I’m getting really frustrated. > > I’m trying to find out why shift-arrow on a date/time stamp no longer works > with my brand new and shiny set-up. > > Emacs 23, org-mode 7.7. > > When running a minimal set-up (as described on the worg-FAQ), the > shift-arrows keys work as expected: they change the date and time values in > org’s timestamps. > > When loading the starter-kit from Kieran Healy [1], things are not so smooth. > I’ve been disabling all possible packages, trying to isolate the culprit, but > to no avail. I searched the web and this mailing list, and found someone else > with the same problem [2], but alas, no conclusive answer. > > In both cases, 'shift-select-mode’ is t. > > With the minimal set-up, S-up is bound to this (using C-h k): > runs the command org-shiftup, which is an interactive compiled > Lisp function in `org.el’. > > With the starter-kit, it’s: > (translated from ) runs the command previous-line, which is > an interactive compiled Lisp function in `simple.el’. (windmove-default-keybindings) is called in starter-kit-keybindings.org, and this does take of the shift + direction keys. The 'Helpful packages' section of starter-kit-org.org also looks suspicious. Best, Ista > > What the heck is ‘translating’ this key binding? How can I find the guilty > one so I can do very cruel things to it? > > Pointers very much appreciated! > Peter. > > [1] http://kjhealy.github.com/emacs-starter-kit/ > [2] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/34329 > > > > -- Ista Zahn Graduate student University of Rochester Department of Clinical and Social Psychology http://yourpsyche.org
Re: [O] Problem with shift-up
Hi Peter, Peter Frings writes: > When loading the starter-kit from Kieran Healy [1], AFAIU, this starter-kit relies on the commit c88c76b of Org: https://github.com/kjhealy/emacs-starter-kit/tree/master/src Please make sure to report what your exact version of Org is (M-x org-version), that might help. > In both cases, 'shift-select-mode’ is t. What is the value of `org-support-shift-select'? Maybe the starter-kit is setting this variable. > With the minimal set-up, S-up is bound to this (using C-h k): > runs the command org-shiftup, which is an interactive compiled > Lisp function in `org.el’. Good :) > With the starter-kit, it’s: > (translated from ) runs the command previous-line, which is > an interactive compiled Lisp function in `simple.el’. > > What the heck is ‘translating’ this key binding? When a composed keybinding like does not point to any command, Emacs "translates" it to and use the associated command instead. > How can I find the guilty one so I can do very cruel things to it? I suggest you ask to the author of the starter-kit :) Let us know if you make progress, -- Bastien
[O] Problem with shift-up
Hi gang, sorry to bother you all again, but my transition to the new emacs is now taking days and I’m getting really frustrated. I’m trying to find out why shift-arrow on a date/time stamp no longer works with my brand new and shiny set-up. Emacs 23, org-mode 7.7. When running a minimal set-up (as described on the worg-FAQ), the shift-arrows keys work as expected: they change the date and time values in org’s timestamps. When loading the starter-kit from Kieran Healy [1], things are not so smooth. I’ve been disabling all possible packages, trying to isolate the culprit, but to no avail. I searched the web and this mailing list, and found someone else with the same problem [2], but alas, no conclusive answer. In both cases, 'shift-select-mode’ is t. With the minimal set-up, S-up is bound to this (using C-h k): runs the command org-shiftup, which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `org.el’. With the starter-kit, it’s: (translated from ) runs the command previous-line, which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `simple.el’. What the heck is ‘translating’ this key binding? How can I find the guilty one so I can do very cruel things to it? Pointers very much appreciated! Peter. [1] http://kjhealy.github.com/emacs-starter-kit/ [2] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/34329
