Re: [O] Quicker refile? Capture progress cookies. Using capture to count/tally
Bernt, I think your system (and your writing about it) is fantastic and it has inspired me to develop mine. On 17 November 2011 23:10, Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca wrote: Gez sule...@gmail.com writes: I almost exclusively use capture to quickly file away things I don't want to forget. This goes to my refile.org as a level 1 heading and isn't attached to anything yet. I was resisting doing that because I have different todo's for different files, but - it just occured to me - what's to stop me listing all of the possible todo's at the top of a refile org file? I might just do that. All of my tasks that need to be refiled show up on my block agenda view in the second section - immediately under today's agenda view.snip I'm using this block agenda view regularly during the day and the tasks to be refiled are constantly 'in my face' until I do something with them. Yes, it would work if I added them to my block agenda. I refile these items mostly from the agenda - I tend to get 2 or 3 of them that are going to the same target so I'll mark them with 'm' and refile with 'B r'. My refile setup uses IDO completion for refile targets and I find this works very well. If I'm refiling to file x.org under '* Tasks' I'll do something like C-c C-w x.org C-SPC tasks RET The order of entering x.org/tasks doesn't matter - IDO is limiting the targets to the entered data so I can match part of what is left in the list. It's because of reading your set-up that I use IDO now. I't's amazing. Perhaps I need more practise in using it - cleverly selecting what I enter - since I end up having to type the whole file name including .org quite often. As good practise, I should probably consistently start with the headline, since my filenames are not unique enough (they match the equivalent archive file and also other headlines). I've also set up refiling to remove DONE tasks from the list of available completion targets. This helps prevent mistakes where you refile to an already done tree (or if you have repeating separate tasks with the same name only the open ones show up as refile targets.) I've had your page open for a while in firefox, gradually re-reading, working through and modifying my setup. I was going to tackle some clock-related stuff next, but now I think removing DONE tasks from the list of targets might be the next thing I add. Refiling the thing to the right place isn't important right now so I put that off. Constantly having to move things to the right place as you capture them will be too slow IMHO. I do know what you mean. I think I've erroneously feared that if I insert a reminder out of context, I need to be more verbose than I would otherwise, or I will forget later what it means, but I can imagine that if I frequently check the items to refile, I probably won't forget. Hope that helps, Very much indeed. Thank you. Geraldine
[O] Quicker refile? Capture progress cookies. Using capture to count/tally
I have a list of niggles which are not on an active todo list because they only occur to me from time to time, but I wanted to be able to quickly note each time one of them bothers me, so that the most annoying ones, the ones I would want to add to my todo list first, might start to rise to the surface. So I created a capture template which inserts a todo under the already listed niggle (which has a progess cookie). It's simple and reasonably fast. Does anyone have any other ways of counting/tallying in org-mode? There are two issues with how I'm doing it. One (pretty minor) is that the inserted todo doesn't trigger off the progress cookie. It's not a big deal; when I want to know which niggle has the largest count, I just need to do C-u C-c # in the file. But I thought I'd point it out in case it could be fixed. The second issue is one I have with capture all the time; I want the refile to be faster. I have a few capture templates for logging that send to a particular headline, but most times I use capture the target can be anywhere in my main outlines. As it is, I'm almost always finishing up with C-c C-w, and in effect starting from scratch each time, narrowing down to the target from all my agenda files. I'd really like a template where once I've called it and entered text or tags or whatever, I use a single key press and the refile selection would begin with a file or headline pre-selected for quick further narrowing down. I don't know if that's do-able with IDO but I do imagine it could work with file+headline, file+olp etc. They would become file+headline+prompt etc and just as now, the template would determine which target was first suggested, but then it would still be open for quick further filtering before RET. To summarise - my 2 ideas are: 1. to add something like +prompt to refile selection in general, and 2. to allow capture templates with a +prompt target to use a single key to start the refile process. I hope all this makes sense! Geraldine
Re: [O] Quicker refile? Capture progress cookies. Using capture to count/tally
Gez sule...@gmail.com writes: The second issue is one I have with capture all the time; I want the refile to be faster. I have a few capture templates for logging that send to a particular headline, but most times I use capture the target can be anywhere in my main outlines. As it is, I'm almost always finishing up with C-c C-w, and in effect starting from scratch each time, narrowing down to the target from all my agenda files. I'd really like a template where once I've called it and entered text or tags or whatever, I use a single key press and the refile selection would begin with a file or headline pre-selected for quick further narrowing down. I don't know if that's do-able with IDO but I do imagine it could work with file+headline, file+olp etc. They would become file+headline+prompt etc and just as now, the template would determine which target was first suggested, but then it would still be open for quick further filtering before RET. To summarise - my 2 ideas are: 1. to add something like +prompt to refile selection in general, and 2. to allow capture templates with a +prompt target to use a single key to start the refile process. I hope all this makes sense! Hi Geraldine, I almost exclusively use capture to quickly file away things I don't want to forget. This goes to my refile.org as a level 1 heading and isn't attached to anything yet. All of my tasks that need to be refiled show up on my block agenda view in the second section - immediately under today's agenda view. (see the screen shot after the elisp at http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html#sec-5-1) I'm using this block agenda view regularly during the day and the tasks to be refiled are constantly 'in my face' until I do something with them. I refile these items mostly from the agenda - I tend to get 2 or 3 of them that are going to the same target so I'll mark them with 'm' and refile with 'B r'. My refile setup uses IDO completion for refile targets and I find this works very well. If I'm refiling to file x.org under '* Tasks' I'll do something like C-c C-w x.org C-SPC tasks RET The order of entering x.org/tasks doesn't matter - IDO is limiting the targets to the entered data so I can match part of what is left in the list. This works great for me and makes refiling much faster then when I used full paths/completion in steps. I've also set up refiling to remove DONE tasks from the list of available completion targets. This helps prevent mistakes where you refile to an already done tree (or if you have repeating separate tasks with the same name only the open ones show up as refile targets.) My refile setup is described at http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html#Refiling The reason this works so well (for me) is I put off refiling the task until I have a minute or two during the day to deal with it. Normally when I'm capturing a task I'm in the middle of something and I just want to record whatever details I need and return to what I was doing as quickly as possible. Refiling the thing to the right place isn't important right now so I put that off. Constantly having to move things to the right place as you capture them will be too slow IMHO. Hope that helps, Regards, Bernt
