Re: [O] Repeating the customization survey?

2013-10-27 Thread Carsten Dominik
Great.

Let me cook up that lisp function for you.

- Carsten

On 26.10.2013, at 01:36, Mike McLean  wrote:

> 
> On Oct 23, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Carsten Dominik  wrote:
> 
>> Dear all,
>> 
>> in 2009, we ran a customization survey, to figure out which variables are 
>> actually used by active Org-mode users.  The results can be seen here:
>> 
>>  http://orgmode.org/worg/org-configs/org-customization-survey.html
>> 
>> I was wondering if it would be useful to repeats this - the results might be 
>> instructive.
>> 
>> It should be much easier this time, because we now have a function that will 
>> actually list all changed variables - so we would only have to ask people to 
>> run a simple lisp command and send in the results.  Of course, then a 
>> volunteer would have to collect and analyse the output.  Last time Manish 
>> and myself did this, and I remember that it was interesting and fun.
>> 
>> Any takers?
> 
> I'll bite; I don't have the Elisp skills (*) to contribute as meaningfully as 
> I would like to Org and this sounds like a  good little side project.
> 
> Mike
> 
> (*) Nor the ability -- to the best of my interpretation -- to sign FSF papers.
> 




Re: [O] Repeating the customization survey?

2013-10-25 Thread Mike McLean

On Oct 23, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Carsten Dominik  wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> in 2009, we ran a customization survey, to figure out which variables are 
> actually used by active Org-mode users.  The results can be seen here:
> 
>   http://orgmode.org/worg/org-configs/org-customization-survey.html
> 
> I was wondering if it would be useful to repeats this - the results might be 
> instructive.
> 
> It should be much easier this time, because we now have a function that will 
> actually list all changed variables - so we would only have to ask people to 
> run a simple lisp command and send in the results.  Of course, then a 
> volunteer would have to collect and analyse the output.  Last time Manish and 
> myself did this, and I remember that it was interesting and fun.
> 
> Any takers?

I'll bite; I don't have the Elisp skills (*) to contribute as meaningfully as I 
would like to Org and this sounds like a  good little side project.

Mike

(*) Nor the ability -- to the best of my interpretation -- to sign FSF papers.




Re: [O] Repeating the customization survey?

2013-10-24 Thread Florian Adamsky
Dear Carsten,

Carsten Dominik writes:

> in 2009, we ran a customization survey, to figure out which variables are 
> actually used by active Org-mode users.  The results can be seen here:
>
>http://orgmode.org/worg/org-configs/org-customization-survey.html

[...]

> Any takers?

I would like to help. I'm not regular contributor to org-mode, so this
means I don't have deep knowledge of the internal structure of
org-mode. However, maybe this helps me to bootstrap myself into the
project. Would you be so kind to tell me the name of the function that
lists all the changed variables. Then I can play a little bit with that
and see which additional information may be useful.

Best regards
--
Florian Adamsky
http://florian.adamsky.it/



Re: [O] Repeating the customization survey?

2013-10-23 Thread Carsten Dominik

On 23.10.2013, at 21:25, Samuel Wales  wrote:

> Will this use a function that people can run on their files?

Not on files.  Just in an emacs session, I will provide a command to run.

- Carsten

> 
> It /was/ interesting and a good workout for Org.
> 
> Samuel
> 
> -- 
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> 
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> it.
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Re: [O] Repeating the customization survey?

2013-10-23 Thread Samuel Wales
Will this use a function that people can run on their files?

It /was/ interesting and a good workout for Org.

Samuel

-- 
The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com

The disease DOES progress.  MANY people have died from it.  ANYBODY can get it.

Denmark: free Karina Hansen NOW.



Re: [O] Repeating the customization survey?

2013-10-23 Thread Marcin Borkowski
Dnia 2013-10-23, o godz. 15:34:09
Carsten Dominik  napisaƂ(a):

> Dear all,
> 
> in 2009, we ran a customization survey, to figure out which variables
> are actually used by active Org-mode users.  The results can be seen
> here:
> 
>http://orgmode.org/worg/org-configs/org-customization-survey.html
> 
> I was wondering if it would be useful to repeats this - the results
> might be instructive.
> 
> It should be much easier this time, because we now have a function
> that will actually list all changed variables - so we would only have
> to ask people to run a simple lisp command and send in the results.
> Of course, then a volunteer would have to collect and analyse the
> output.  Last time Manish and myself did this, and I remember that it
> was interesting and fun.
> 
> Any takers?

1. Does it require in-depth knowledge of Elisp?  (I guess not, but
wanted to ask - I'm not a programmer.)

2. When it should be done?  (I have a negative amount of spare
time now, but a few big commitments of mine finish this or next week.)

3. Is it very much time-consuming?  (More than 4-5 hours might mean I'm
out.)

> - Carsten

Best,

-- 
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University



[O] Repeating the customization survey?

2013-10-23 Thread Carsten Dominik
Dear all,

in 2009, we ran a customization survey, to figure out which variables are 
actually used by active Org-mode users.  The results can be seen here:

   http://orgmode.org/worg/org-configs/org-customization-survey.html

I was wondering if it would be useful to repeats this - the results might be 
instructive.

It should be much easier this time, because we now have a function that will 
actually list all changed variables - so we would only have to ask people to 
run a simple lisp command and send in the results.  Of course, then a volunteer 
would have to collect and analyse the output.  Last time Manish and myself did 
this, and I remember that it was interesting and fun.

Any takers?

- Carsten