Re: [O] Updating info files

[Jude DaShiell]

When I update org, I do:
make ./update
sudo make ./install
sudo make ./install-info

Then info org shows the correct version of org.

On Wed, 6 Jun 2012, Memnon Anon wrote:

> Mike Fitzgerald  writes:
> 
> > C-h i still brings up the old info files.
> >
> > files are there:
> >
> > org.pdf
> > rg.texi
> > rgcard.pdf
> > rgcard.tex
> > rgcard_letter.pdf
> > rgguide.pdf
> > rgguide.texi
> 
> Mhh, are these all files in the doc dir?
> 
> Info doesn't use pdf, here is mine for comparison:
> 
> /home/xxx/tmp/bin/org-mode/doc
>   dir
>   -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx6.8k 2011-02-02  Documentation_Standards.org
>   -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx1.9k 05-23 11:54 Makefile
>   -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx  852.6k 05-27 05:49 org
>   -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx 110 05-27 05:49 org-version.inc
>   -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx1.3M 05-27 05:49 org.html
>   -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx1.6M 05-27 05:50 org.pdf
>   -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx  686.4k 05-26 17:48 org.texi
>   -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx   23.2k 05-25 16:47 orgcard.tex
>   -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx   21.7k 12-17 12:02 orgcard.txt
>   -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx  363.4k 05-27 05:50 orgguide.pdf
>   -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx   97.4k 05-23 11:54 orgguide.texi
>   -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx1.3k 04-15 21:31 pdflayout.sty
>   -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx  278.6k 01-04 00:10 texinfo.tex
> 
> Files relevant for info: "dir" and "org"
> 
> 
> 


Jude 

Re: [O] Updating info files

[Memnon Anon]

Mike Fitzgerald  writes:

> C-h i still brings up the old info files.
>
> files are there:
>
> org.pdf
> rg.texi
> rgcard.pdf
> rgcard.tex
> rgcard_letter.pdf
> rgguide.pdf
> rgguide.texi

Mhh, are these all files in the doc dir?

Info doesn't use pdf, here is mine for comparison:

/home/xxx/tmp/bin/org-mode/doc
  dir
  -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx6.8k 2011-02-02  Documentation_Standards.org
  -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx1.9k 05-23 11:54 Makefile
  -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx  852.6k 05-27 05:49 org
  -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx 110 05-27 05:49 org-version.inc
  -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx1.3M 05-27 05:49 org.html
  -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx1.6M 05-27 05:50 org.pdf
  -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx  686.4k 05-26 17:48 org.texi
  -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx   23.2k 05-25 16:47 orgcard.tex
  -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx   21.7k 12-17 12:02 orgcard.txt
  -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx  363.4k 05-27 05:50 orgguide.pdf
  -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx   97.4k 05-23 11:54 orgguide.texi
  -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx1.3k 04-15 21:31 pdflayout.sty
  -rw-r--r--  1 xxx xxx  278.6k 01-04 00:10 texinfo.tex

Files relevant for info: "dir" and "org"

Re: [O] Updating info files

[Nick Dokos]

Mike Fitzgerald  wrote:

> Windows 7, EMACS 23.4
> 
> I tried this in my .emacs to update info files
>  
> ;; Info directory
> (add-to-list 'Info-default-directory-list
>  (expand-file-name "~/.emacs.d/org-7.8.11/doc)"))
> 
> As recommended here.
> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html
> 

The paren after "doc" is spurious: try deleting it. I'll check the FAQ
and correct it if necessary.

Nick

> C-h i still brings up the old info files.
> 
> files are there:
> 
> org.pdf
> rg.texi
> rgcard.pdf
> rgcard.tex
> rgcard_letter.pdf
> rgguide.pdf
> rgguide.texi
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Mike
> 
> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Nick Dokos  wrote:
> 
> Mike Fitzgerald  wrote:
>
> > Great!
> > Followed your latest recommendations and all seems well.
> >
>
> Glad to hear it.
>
> > A couple of things:
> >
> > 1) The defun
> >
> > (defun my/compile-org(&optional directory)
> >   "Compile all *.el files that come with org-mode."
> >
> > is at http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.html.
> >
>
> Yeah, Achim pointed it out, so I added a warning to stay away from it for 
> now.
>
> > 2) The org mode update info on the net is confusing to me.
> >
>
> You might want to post a note to the list (as detailed as possible
> please!) about this. There is always room for improvement in this area.
>
> > 3) The command (require 'org-capture) does not appear anywhere on 
> http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html#Capture
> > Which is the most offcical looking page has capture stuff.
> > Seems that it should be near the top.
> > Tried re-running without (require 'org-capture)  and it still works.
> > Another package must be loading it.
> >
>
> It's probably not necessary, just paranoia on my part.
>
> > 4) Is there a pain free way to get org mode info files updated?
> >
>
> My preference is to initialize the environment variable INFOPATH to point
> to the various directories that contain info files that I'm interested in
> (in addition to the standard ones). That might or might not work well for
> you on windows though.
>
> > 5) How 2 byte compile?
> > (perhaps it does not need byte compile, seems fast enough)
> >
>
> I almost always run without byte-compilation (mostly because I don't
> really use org-mode to its fullest potential, but I often end up
> debugging things: org-mode is more a hobby for me, not so much a
> productivity tool).
>
> You will probably want to learn enough about git and the repo eventually
> and use that to (frequently!) update your installation, because org is a
> fast moving target and eventually you will lust after the latest and
> greatest feature which only exists on the bleeding edge version; but
> that will mean that you probably will want to install a make tool on
> windows: it's too much of a pain otherwise.
>
> > Thanks 4 being responsive and a clean dispo.
> >
>
> Getting over the initial hump is the biggest obstacle new users face,
> so I try to help them do that.
>
> Nick
> 
> 
> 
> Alternatives:
> 
> 

[O] Updating info files

[Mike Fitzgerald]

Windows 7, EMACS 23.4

I tried this in my .emacs to update info files

;; Info directory
(add-to-list 'Info-default-directory-list
 (expand-file-name "~/.emacs.d/org-7.8.11/doc)"))

As recommended here.
http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.html

C-h i still brings up the old info files.

files are there:

org.pdf
rg.texi
rgcard.pdf
rgcard.tex
rgcard_letter.pdf
rgguide.pdf
rgguide.texi

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Mike

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 2:40 PM, Nick Dokos  wrote:

> Mike Fitzgerald  wrote:
>
> > Great!
> > Followed your latest recommendations and all seems well.
> >
>
> Glad to hear it.
>
> > A couple of things:
> >
> > 1) The defun
> >
> > (defun my/compile-org(&optional directory)
> >   "Compile all *.el files that come with org-mode."
> >
> > is at http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.html.
> >
>
> Yeah, Achim pointed it out, so I added a warning to stay away from it for
> now.
>
> > 2) The org mode update info on the net is confusing to me.
> >
>
> You might want to post a note to the list (as detailed as possible
> please!) about this. There is always room for improvement in this area.
>
> > 3) The command (require 'org-capture) does not appear anywhere on
> http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html#Capture
> > Which is the most offcical looking page has capture stuff.
> > Seems that it should be near the top.
> > Tried re-running without (require 'org-capture)  and it still works.
> > Another package must be loading it.
> >
>
> It's probably not necessary, just paranoia on my part.
>
> > 4) Is there a pain free way to get org mode info files updated?
> >
>
> My preference is to initialize the environment variable INFOPATH to point
> to the various directories that contain info files that I'm interested in
> (in addition to the standard ones). That might or might not work well for
> you on windows though.
>
> > 5) How 2 byte compile?
> > (perhaps it does not need byte compile, seems fast enough)
> >
>
> I almost always run without byte-compilation (mostly because I don't
> really use org-mode to its fullest potential, but I often end up
> debugging things: org-mode is more a hobby for me, not so much a
> productivity tool).
>
> You will probably want to learn enough about git and the repo eventually
> and use that to (frequently!) update your installation, because org is a
> fast moving target and eventually you will lust after the latest and
> greatest feature which only exists on the bleeding edge version; but
> that will mean that you probably will want to install a make tool on
> windows: it's too much of a pain otherwise.
>
> > Thanks 4 being responsive and a clean dispo.
> >
>
> Getting over the initial hump is the biggest obstacle new users face,
> so I try to help them do that.
>
> Nick
>