Re: [O] css link colors for Worg are difficult to spot
Hi John, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com writes: Didn't get to this, but looks like someone else did a bit of an overhaul! No more gray background, blue/purple links and simple underline appearance for hover. Works for me. I did this. This was inspired by Jambunathan's suggestion to look a bit more plain, which I liked indeed. -- Bastien
Re: [O] css link colors for Worg are difficult to spot
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Bastien b...@gnu.org wrote: John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com writes: Agreed as well. +1 It drives me crazy to have posted to the list a couple times recently for someone to tell me where, exactly, something is only to find out there was, indeed, a link in the paragraph I was looking at but didn't see it! I hereby declare you Head of Worg Design Department! Please be bold. Didn't get to this, but looks like someone else did a bit of an overhaul! No more gray background, blue/purple links and simple underline appearance for hover. Works for me. John -- Bastien
Re: [O] css link colors for Worg are difficult to spot
On 1 Apr 2013, at 15:14, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com wrote:
I find the links difficult to spot in Worg sometimes, especially
depending on monitor angle and current brightness setting. Is this an
issue for anyone else?
I fiddled around in /style/worg.css a bit and didn't land on anything
too great. I'm wondering if anyone with a design background might have
suggestions for link colors? I guess if no one else is affected by
this... I'll just deal with it and mine sweep wildly with my mouse
when I think a link should be in there somewhere :)
In the old days lines used to be underlined, nowadays it is considered a bit
dated, but an underlined item in a sentence is generally understood to be a
link.
A good example is http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/html/elements/a
Which uses:
a { text-decoration: underline }
and for external links:
a.external {
padding-right: 15px;
margin-right: 5px;
background-image: url(skins/webplatform/images/link-external.png);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: right 3px;
}
Design as this won't do on behance or dribble, but worg is primarily for
documentation. Usability and readability should trump superficial aesthetics in
a case like this.
Re: [O] css link colors for Worg are difficult to spot
On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Alexander Poslavsky
alexander.poslav...@gmail.com wrote:
On 1 Apr 2013, at 15:14, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com wrote:
I find the links difficult to spot in Worg sometimes, especially
depending on monitor angle and current brightness setting. Is this an
issue for anyone else?
I fiddled around in /style/worg.css a bit and didn't land on anything
too great. I'm wondering if anyone with a design background might have
suggestions for link colors? I guess if no one else is affected by
this... I'll just deal with it and mine sweep wildly with my mouse
when I think a link should be in there somewhere :)
In the old days lines used to be underlined, nowadays it is considered a bit
dated, but an underlined item in a sentence is generally understood to be a
link.
A good example is http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/html/elements/a
Which uses:
a { text-decoration: underline }
and for external links:
a.external {
padding-right: 15px;
margin-right: 5px;
background-image: url(skins/webplatform/images/link-external.png);
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-position: right 3px;
}
I wouldn't mind this at all. Or perhaps the same color link, but
unvisited is underlined and visited is not? Or reddish + underline for
unvisited, greenish + underline for visited, and hover simply
brightens up each respective color or something?
Design as this won't do on behance or dribble, but worg is primarily for
documentation. Usability and readability should trump superficial aesthetics
in a case like this.
Agreed as well. It drives me crazy to have posted to the list a couple
times recently for someone to tell me where, exactly, something is
only to find out there was, indeed, a link in the paragraph I was
looking at but didn't see it!
John
Re: [O] css link colors for Worg are difficult to spot
John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com writes: Agreed as well. +1 It drives me crazy to have posted to the list a couple times recently for someone to tell me where, exactly, something is only to find out there was, indeed, a link in the paragraph I was looking at but didn't see it! I hereby declare you Head of Worg Design Department! Please be bold. -- Bastien
Re: [O] css link colors for Worg are difficult to spot
Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de writes: Bastien bzg at altern.org writes: The angry unicorn is still in worg though ... And it's back on orgmode.org too. Well let me say it again, I don't like it at all. The old unicorn seemed to be blissful, which I think is what it should feel like using Org. Besides, the new logo has some hard-not-to-notice problems with perspective and the anatomy of the unicorn head. If people massively vote for the come back of the old unicorn, I've nothing against it. Let's deal with this after 8.0 though. -- Bastien
Re: [O] css link colors for Worg are difficult to spot
Bastien bzg at altern.org writes: The angry unicorn is still in worg though ... And it's back on orgmode.org too. Well let me say it again, I don't like it at all. The old unicorn seemed to be blissful, which I think is what it should feel like using Org. Besides, the new logo has some hard-not-to-notice problems with perspective and the anatomy of the unicorn head. Regards, Achim.
Re: [O] css link colors for Worg are difficult to spot
John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com writes: Then all I did was reverse the scheme -- unvisited/visited are now light/dark greenish and the hover color is rust (dark red). Thanks -- this is what I did first but Suvayu found this confusing, so I inverted the colors... Maybe the trick is to make them more visible by lightening the colors. I'm definitely no expert on this, so help is welcome. -- Bastien
Re: [O] css link colors for Worg are difficult to spot
Hi John, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com writes: I find the links difficult to spot in Worg sometimes, especially depending on monitor angle and current brightness setting. Is this an issue for anyone else? Yes, it is for me too. I fiddled around in /style/worg.css a bit and didn't land on anything too great. I'm wondering if anyone with a design background might have suggestions for link colors? I guess if no one else is affected by this... I'll just deal with it and mine sweep wildly with my mouse when I think a link should be in there somewhere :) Even if that's not great, something *better* would be nice already. The difficult part is to stick to the colors of the Unicorn while making the link more readable -- if you can enhance this, the change will be welcome. Thanks, -- Bastien
Re: [O] css link colors for Worg are difficult to spot
Bastien writes: Even if that's not great, something *better* would be nice already. The difficult part is to stick to the colors of the Unicorn while making the link more readable Surely you mean the colors of the Ostrich? (It's April 3, and the ostrich is still up on the main Orgmode page.) Ostriches hide in plain sight by laying their head and neck on the ground to look like stones or mounds of earth, hence the head-in-sand myth. So camouflaging the links to blend in with their environment seems like the right thing to do. :) Yours, Christian
Re: [O] css link colors for Worg are difficult to spot
Even if that's not great, something *better* would be nice already. The difficult part is to stick to the colors of the Unicorn while making the link more readable Surely you mean the colors of the Ostrich? (It's April 3, and the ostrich is still up on the main Orgmode page.) The angry unicorn is still in worg though ...
Re: [O] css link colors for Worg are difficult to spot
Vincent Beffara vbeff...@ens-lyon.fr writes: The angry unicorn is still in worg though ... And it's back on orgmode.org too. No time for procrastination anymoe :) -- Bastien
Re: [O] css link colors for Worg are difficult to spot
Alright, just pushed changes. I just used this site to upload the original Org unicorn and get the colors from it: - http://www.colr.org/ Then all I did was reverse the scheme -- unvisited/visited are now light/dark greenish and the hover color is rust (dark red). I think the green pops a bit more off the screen than the red. I tried and find a balance between unvisited links looking different (lighter) while not dimming the visited links *too* much so that they became hidden again. Another option would be to have unvisited as lighter green or red, visited as the opposite, and the hover as something completely different and obvious (not necessarily in the color scheme at all) as that's the rarest color experienced. Anyway, hopefully it's not too jarring and seen as at least a slight improvement. Let me know if you don't like it! Best regards, John On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 5:57 AM, Bastien b...@altern.org wrote: Vincent Beffara vbeff...@ens-lyon.fr writes: The angry unicorn is still in worg though ... And it's back on orgmode.org too. No time for procrastination anymoe :) -- Bastien
[O] css link colors for Worg are difficult to spot
I find the links difficult to spot in Worg sometimes, especially depending on monitor angle and current brightness setting. Is this an issue for anyone else? I fiddled around in /style/worg.css a bit and didn't land on anything too great. I'm wondering if anyone with a design background might have suggestions for link colors? I guess if no one else is affected by this... I'll just deal with it and mine sweep wildly with my mouse when I think a link should be in there somewhere :) John
