Re: [O] plain text best practice?

2012-06-13 Thread Eric S Fraga
Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net writes:

 On Wed, Jun 06 2012, scraw...@gmail.com wrote:

 howdy guys,

 I want to use org-mode for writing documents that don't necessarily
 have very many headings or sub-headings.

 I could do:

 * Chapter One
  lots of text
 * Chapter Two
 lots more text

 Is there anything wrong with this approach? I've used Org for novel
 translations, and do it just like this. If there are no logical
 divisions within chapters you probably don't want additional markup, it
 will just get in the way.

 If navigation is the problem, getting accustomed to keybindings like C-c
 C-n, C-c C-p, and C-c C-u can be very helpful. Also look at the
 docstring for `org-cycle', and you might consider binding a few
 outline-mode commands (like `hide-other') to your own keys, to help keep
 navigation and visibility under control.

And don't forget that emacs has many other features beyond org which
work nicely with org.  In particular, if you want navigation without the
headings, you can use bookmarks ((emacs) Bookmarks).  I use these all
the time.  You don't need subheadings etc for these to work.

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: using Org release_7.8.11-69-ga2fd96




[O] plain text best practice?

2012-06-05 Thread scrawler
howdy guys,

I want to use org-mode for writing documents that don't necessarily
have very many headings or sub-headings.

I could do:

* Chapter One
 lots of text
* Chapter Two
lots more text

or:

* Chapter One
  - lots of text
* Chapter Two
  - lots more text

or:

* Chapter One
** paragraph 1
   lots of text
** paragraph 2
   lots of text
* Chapter Two

...but I'm not sure which to use. It almost seems like the last format
is the best, but I don't want to type paragraph headings. Maybe the
first few words of the paragraph could be a heading after the fact, but
not as I write.

Apologies for such a basic question, but I how can I leverage org-mode
to just write? What do you do?

thanks






Re: [O] plain text best practice?

2012-06-05 Thread Christopher Schmidt
scraw...@gmail.com writes:

 * Chapter One
   - lots of text
 * Chapter Two
   - lots more text

These are lists (info (org)Plain lists).  I do not think you want
that.

 * Chapter One
 ** paragraph 1
lots of text
 ** paragraph 2
lots of text
 * Chapter Two

This is exactly what org-indent-mode is for.  Check
(info (org)Clean view).

Christopher



Re: [O] plain text best practice?

2012-06-05 Thread William LÉCHELLE
I'd go the first way if you don't need/use much markup, but if you want to
structure more deeply your document, you can have subheadings without actually
giving them a title (just the stars and a blank space are enough for a heading)

It's also a matter of what you want to do with the document, if you plan to
export it, the subheadings will change the result in ways you may like or 
dislike.

(You don't seem to have any usage of lists, so simply don't go for them.)

At Tue, 5 Jun 2012 22:38:13 -0500,
scraw...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 howdy guys,
 
 I want to use org-mode for writing documents that don't necessarily
 have very many headings or sub-headings.
 
 I could do:
 
 * Chapter One
  lots of text
 * Chapter Two
 lots more text
 
 or:
 
 * Chapter One
   - lots of text
 * Chapter Two
   - lots more text
 
 or:
 
 * Chapter One
 ** paragraph 1
lots of text
 ** paragraph 2
lots of text
 * Chapter Two
 
 ...but I'm not sure which to use. It almost seems like the last format
 is the best, but I don't want to type paragraph headings. Maybe the
 first few words of the paragraph could be a heading after the fact, but
 not as I write.
 
 Apologies for such a basic question, but I how can I leverage org-mode
 to just write? What do you do?
 
 thanks
 
 
 
 



Re: [O] plain text best practice?

2012-06-05 Thread Nick Dokos
scraw...@gmail.com wrote:

 howdy guys,
 
 I want to use org-mode for writing documents that don't necessarily
 have very many headings or sub-headings.
 
 I could do:
 
 * Chapter One
  lots of text
 * Chapter Two
 lots more text
 
 or:
 
 * Chapter One
   - lots of text
 * Chapter Two
   - lots more text
 
 or:
 
 * Chapter One
 ** paragraph 1
lots of text
 ** paragraph 2
lots of text
 * Chapter Two
 
 ...but I'm not sure which to use. It almost seems like the last format
 is the best, but I don't want to type paragraph headings. Maybe the
 first few words of the paragraph could be a heading after the fact, but
 not as I write.
 
 Apologies for such a basic question, but I how can I leverage org-mode
 to just write? What do you do?
 

Use the first form. If you feel that the chapter needs to be split up,
use second level headings to split it up into sections. If a section
gets too big, use third-level headings for subsections. And so on...

Org-mode is not buying you much in this case: you can navigate easily
between chapters and you can hide the contents of all the other chapters
while leaving exposed the one you are working on. But it doesn't cost
anything either. And if you ever decide to publish the thing (on paper,
as a PDF on the web, as HTML on the web, etc.), you will be able to
trivially do it. So just write and don't sweat it too much.

Nick



Re: [O] plain text best practice?

2012-06-05 Thread Eric Abrahamsen
On Wed, Jun 06 2012, scraw...@gmail.com wrote:

 howdy guys,

 I want to use org-mode for writing documents that don't necessarily
 have very many headings or sub-headings.

 I could do:

 * Chapter One
  lots of text
 * Chapter Two
 lots more text

Is there anything wrong with this approach? I've used Org for novel
translations, and do it just like this. If there are no logical
divisions within chapters you probably don't want additional markup, it
will just get in the way.

If navigation is the problem, getting accustomed to keybindings like C-c
C-n, C-c C-p, and C-c C-u can be very helpful. Also look at the
docstring for `org-cycle', and you might consider binding a few
outline-mode commands (like `hide-other') to your own keys, to help keep
navigation and visibility under control.

Keep it simple!

Eric

 or:

 * Chapter One
   - lots of text
 * Chapter Two
   - lots more text

 or:

 * Chapter One
 ** paragraph 1
lots of text
 ** paragraph 2
lots of text
 * Chapter Two

 ...but I'm not sure which to use. It almost seems like the last format
 is the best, but I don't want to type paragraph headings. Maybe the
 first few words of the paragraph could be a heading after the fact, but
 not as I write.

 Apologies for such a basic question, but I how can I leverage org-mode
 to just write? What do you do?

 thanks






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