Re: [O] using %(sexp) in capture templates

2013-10-13 Thread Mike McLean

On Oct 12, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 
 i'll look into rebuilding outlook profiles and spotlight indexes.
 meanwhile, following has worked consistently for me:
 
 #+begin_src emacs-lisp
 (defun org-mac-outlook-message-open (msgid)
   open a message in outlook
   (do-applescript
(concat
 tell application \Microsoft Outlook\\n
  (format open message id %s\n msgid)
  activate\n
  end tell)))
 #+end_src
 
 cheers!
 --manish
 

And I just submitted a patch that changes to Outlook message open to use 
Applescript as your code does.

Re: [O] using %(sexp) in capture templates

2013-10-12 Thread Manish
   On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Mike McLean wrote:
  
  On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Manish wrote:
 
  i am trying to use %(org-mac-outlook-message-insert-selected)
  in a capture template to create a todo entry from an email
  selected in outlook on mac os x.  i was expecting that the
  function will get executed when the template is called and
  enter a link to the email but seems to return nothing.  the
  function works when used outside of template.  any ideas how i
  can begin to debug this or if i should be doing anything
  differently?
 
  
   When I added the support for Outlook I matched the style and design
   of the existing Org mac message (for Mail). In particular
   org-mac-outlook-message-insert-selected does not return a value, it
   is designed to be called interactively and inserts a link at the
   current point in the current buffer. As such it would not work as a
   %() capture template.
  
   Now on the other hand all org-mac-outlook-message-insert-selected
   does is ~(insert (org-mac-outlook-message-get-links s))~. I
   presume (though I haven't tested) that you could use the inner form
   ~(org-mac-outlook-message-get-links s)~ in a %() sexp in a
   capture template.
  

thanks!  it does work this way.

i am not sure if it's directly related but there's a weird issue.  once
i have a link to an email, i can open it by c-c c-o only once.  any
following attempt just fails with a message: org-mac-link: error could
not find outlook message msgid where msgid is the id of the
message. when i ran the mdfind command that i found in the source in the
terminal, it again worked once only.  any subsequent attempt opens a
finder window.  very very odd behavior since i am not even modifying the
email in anyway (other than just opening it) that might change its
message id or something.

cheers!
--manish


Re: [O] using %(sexp) in capture templates

2013-10-12 Thread Mike McLean

On Oct 12, 2013, at 2:03 AM, Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com wrote:

   On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Mike McLean wrote:

   On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Manish wrote:
   
   i am trying to use %(org-mac-outlook-message-insert-selected)
   in a capture template to create a todo entry from an email
   selected in outlook on mac os x.  i was expecting that the
   function will get executed when the template is called and
   enter a link to the email but seems to return nothing.  the
   function works when used outside of template.  any ideas how i
   can begin to debug this or if i should be doing anything
   differently?
   

When I added the support for Outlook I matched the style and design
of the existing Org mac message (for Mail). In particular
org-mac-outlook-message-insert-selected does not return a value, it
is designed to be called interactively and inserts a link at the
current point in the current buffer. As such it would not work as a
%() capture template.

Now on the other hand all org-mac-outlook-message-insert-selected
does is ~(insert (org-mac-outlook-message-get-links s))~. I
presume (though I haven't tested) that you could use the inner form
~(org-mac-outlook-message-get-links s)~ in a %() sexp in a
capture template.

 
 thanks!  it does work this way.
 
 i am not sure if it's directly related but there's a weird issue.  once
 i have a link to an email, i can open it by c-c c-o only once.  any
 following attempt just fails with a message: org-mac-link: error could
 not find outlook message msgid where msgid is the id of the
 message. when i ran the mdfind command that i found in the source in the
 terminal, it again worked once only.  any subsequent attempt opens a
 finder window.  very very odd behavior since i am not even modifying the
 email in anyway (other than just opening it) that might change its
 message id or something.

It has definitely worked for the same message multiple times for me (even after 
changing a message by moving it, etc.). Since the Org mac Outlook interface 
uses Spotlight indexing, and Spotlight uses the loose messages in the Microsoft 
User Data folder, maybe rebuilding one or both of the Outlook profile or the 
Spotlight index would fix your issues?

Re: [O] using %(sexp) in capture templates

2013-10-12 Thread Manish
 On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:24 AM, Mike McLean wrote:

  On Oct 12, 2013, at 2:03 AM, Manish wrote:
 
   On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Mike McLean wrote:
  
On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Manish wrote:
   
i am trying to use %(org-mac-outlook-message-insert-selected) in
a capture template to create a todo entry from an email selected
in outlook on mac os x.  i was expecting that the function will
get executed when the template is called and enter a link to the
email but seems to return nothing.  the function works when used
outside of template.  any ideas how i can begin to debug this or
if i should be doing anything differently?
   
  
   When I added the support for Outlook I matched the style and
   design of the existing Org mac message (for Mail). In particular
   org-mac-outlook-message-insert-selected does not return a value,
   it is designed to be called interactively and inserts a link at
   the current point in the current buffer. As such it would not work
   as a %() capture template.
  
   Now on the other hand all org-mac-outlook-message-insert-selected
   does is ~(insert (org-mac-outlook-message-get-links s))~. I
   presume (though I haven't tested) that you could use the inner
   form ~(org-mac-outlook-message-get-links s)~ in a %() sexp in a
   capture template.
  
 
  thanks!  it does work this way.
 
  i am not sure if it's directly related but there's a weird issue.
  once i have a link to an email, i can open it by c-c c-o only once.
  any following attempt just fails with a message: org-mac-link:
  error could not find outlook message msgid where msgid is the id
  of the message. when i ran the mdfind command that i found in the
  source in the terminal, it again worked once only.  any subsequent
  attempt opens a finder window.  very very odd behavior since i am
  not even modifying the email in anyway (other than just opening it)
  that might change its message id or something.

 it has definitely worked for the same message multiple times for me
 (even after changing a message by moving it, etc.). since the org mac
 outlook interface uses spotlight indexing, and spotlight uses the
 loose messages in the microsoft user data folder, maybe rebuilding one
 or both of the outlook profile or the spotlight index would fix your
 issues?

i'll look into rebuilding outlook profiles and spotlight indexes.
meanwhile, following has worked consistently for me:

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(defun org-mac-outlook-message-open (msgid)
  open a message in outlook
  (do-applescript
   (concat
tell application \Microsoft Outlook\\n
 (format open message id %s\n msgid)
 activate\n
 end tell)))
#+end_src

cheers!
--manish


Re: [O] using %(sexp) in capture templates

2013-10-11 Thread Mike McLean

On Oct 10, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com wrote:

 i am trying to use %(org-mac-outlook-message-insert-selected) in a
 capture template to create a todo entry from an email selected in
 outlook on mac os x.  i was expecting that the function will get
 executed when the template is called and enter a link to the email but
 seems to return nothing.  the function works when used outside of
 template.  any ideas how i can begin to debug this or if i should be
 doing anything differently?


When I added the support for Outlook I matched the style and design of the 
existing Org mac message (for Mail). In particular 
org-mac-outlook-message-insert-selected does not return a value, it is designed 
to be called interactively and inserts a link at the current point in the 
current buffer. As such it would not work as a %() capture template.

Now on the other hand all org-mac-outlook-message-insert-selected does is 
~(insert (org-mac-outlook-message-get-links s))~. I presume (though I haven't 
tested) that you could use the inner form ~(org-mac-outlook-message-get-links 
s)~ in a %() sexp in a capture template.

Mike




[O] using %(sexp) in capture templates

2013-10-10 Thread Manish
i am trying to use %(org-mac-outlook-message-insert-selected) in a
capture template to create a todo entry from an email selected in
outlook on mac os x.  i was expecting that the function will get
executed when the template is called and enter a link to the email but
seems to return nothing.  the function works when used outside of
template.  any ideas how i can begin to debug this or if i should be
doing anything differently?

cheers!
--manish