Re: [Orgmode] A few questions about how you write e-mails
On 2010-10-19, Jeff Horn jrhorn...@gmail.com wrote: . | like this | or this .__ As it can be an obstacle for people who are new to Emacs to remove the rectangle, I do === This === instead. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] A few questions about how you write e-mails
Jeff Horn jrhorn...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly, I notice some of the regular posters wrap org source in the #+ style org wrappers, others use a --8--cut-here---8-- or some similar horizontal-rule, and yet others use some sort of vertical quoting: . | like this | or this .__ My first question is two-fold: 1) how did you come to use this style for quoting code in your replies, and 2) mind sharing the macros or letting us know what packages you use that help make your e-mails look tidy? I use boxquote.el (see http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BoxQuote) for the above style, but as Samuel and Bernt point out that's not the best way for quoting material where the recipient is expected to use the quoted material (e.g. code snippets): extracting it from the boxquote is more difficult than it needs to be (even if one has boxquote.el installed).[fn:1] For code, I use the method Bernt described: message-mark-inserted-region, which is similar to the purely textual approach of Samuel's, but does provide nice fontification in my mailer. I bind these functions to keys: C-c q for the boxquote style, C-c m for the message style, but this is very much a matter of personal preference. Sometimes I need boxquote-unbox, but I don't have a key for that: I call the function with M-x ... Secondly, and somewhat related to the first, are orgsters simply using gnus with message-mode hook to utilize org footnotes? I've noticed I can style/face the text with a message-mode hook, but I'm wondering how everyone deals, in general, with plain text footnotes in e-mail? Do you even use footnotes for sharing links? I don't use gnus/message-mode for mail. Re: footnotes - I use them rarely in mail and most of the time by hand, but I do have org-footnote-action bound to a key (see the footnote above) - I just forget to use it most of the time. And I don't style them at all: whatever the mailer/emacs/hooks at the receiving end does, is up to them. Lastly, are any orgsters using gnus+gmail? I've tried just reading org list mails in gnus, but I find switching back and forth to be jarring if I read org list e-mails in a browser throughout the day, since I end up re-reading a lot of mails. Also, mind sharing how you've mapped the cumbersome B m [Gmail]/Trash to a better key? If anyone feels inspired, I'd use a package that utilized gmail movement shortcuts in gnus (so mark with x, move out of inbox with e, or move to trash (as above) with #). I don't use gnus (except for news reading - which I only do very rarely nowadays). For mail, I will die with the mh-e keybindings permanently etched in the reptilian part of my brain - by now, the fingers can act independently from the rest of my body. And I only use a browser to search mailing list archives, never to read mail with. Nick Footnotes: [fn:1] I used boxquotes for some code once and Seb Vauban (iirc) took me to task. I'm pretty sure I have not repeated the faux-pas. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] A few questions about how you write e-mails
Jeff Horn jrhorn...@gmail.com writes: [...] Secondly, and somewhat related to the first, are orgsters simply using gnus with message-mode hook to utilize org footnotes? I've noticed I can style/face the text with a message-mode hook, but I'm wondering how everyone deals, in general, with plain text footnotes in e-mail? For footnotes I use footnote-mode [1], which is not related to Org-mode except possibly as an ancestor or inspiration. It is included in recent versions of Emacs. Do you even use footnotes for sharing links? Normally, especially for very long links. Lastly, are any orgsters using gnus+gmail? I've tried just reading org list mails in gnus, but I find switching back and forth to be jarring if I read org list e-mails in a browser throughout the day, since I end up re-reading a lot of mails. Also, mind sharing how you've mapped the cumbersome B m [Gmail]/Trash to a better key? If anyone feels inspired, I'd use a package that utilized gmail movement shortcuts in gnus (so mark with x, move out of inbox with e, or move to trash (as above) with #). Stop using the gmail web interface and do everything through gnus. At least that's what works for me :) Best -- Eric Thanks for taking the time to respond! Best wishes, Jeff Footnotes: [1] footnote-mode footnote-mode is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `footnote.el'. (footnote-mode optional ARG) Toggle footnote minor mode. This minor mode provides footnote support for `message-mode'. To get started, play around with the following keys: key binding --- --- C-c Prefix Command C-c ! Prefix Command C-c ! a Footnote-add-footnote C-c ! b Footnote-back-to-message C-c ! c Footnote-cycle-style C-c ! d Footnote-delete-footnote C-c ! g Footnote-goto-footnote C-c ! r Footnote-renumber-footnotes C-c ! s Footnote-set-style [back] ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] A few questions about how you write e-mails
Dear orgsters, I've had a few nagging questions that I didn't think warranted too much discussion, but my curiosity has gotten the better of me this evening. Firstly, I notice some of the regular posters wrap org source in the #+ style org wrappers, others use a --8--cut-here---8-- or some similar horizontal-rule, and yet others use some sort of vertical quoting: . | like this | or this .__ My first question is two-fold: 1) how did you come to use this style for quoting code in your replies, and 2) mind sharing the macros or letting us know what packages you use that help make your e-mails look tidy? Secondly, and somewhat related to the first, are orgsters simply using gnus with message-mode hook to utilize org footnotes? I've noticed I can style/face the text with a message-mode hook, but I'm wondering how everyone deals, in general, with plain text footnotes in e-mail? Do you even use footnotes for sharing links? Lastly, are any orgsters using gnus+gmail? I've tried just reading org list mails in gnus, but I find switching back and forth to be jarring if I read org list e-mails in a browser throughout the day, since I end up re-reading a lot of mails. Also, mind sharing how you've mapped the cumbersome B m [Gmail]/Trash to a better key? If anyone feels inspired, I'd use a package that utilized gmail movement shortcuts in gnus (so mark with x, move out of inbox with e, or move to trash (as above) with #). Thanks for taking the time to respond! Best wishes, Jeff -- Jeffrey Horn Graduate Lecturer and PhD Student in Economics George Mason University (704) 271-4797 jh...@gmu.edu jrhorn...@gmail.com http://www.failuretorefrain.com/jeff/ ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
