Re: [O] Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: attach link type
Hi Darlan, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira darc...@gmail.com writes: I think yes and no, depending on what the user wants to do. I my case I use org-attach as a way to store files related to org that *I don't need to access outside org-mode*. For files that I access outside org-mode I don't attach it at all. I just use links to the file when I need to. Therefore I almost always delete the original file after attaching it and that's why IMHO the stored link should point to the location where the file was attached to. Again, maybe I'm just using org-attach in a way a little different from what it was originally intended to. That's why for me It makes sense to create an attach link type. Thanks for the explanations -- I've now allowed org-attach-store-link-p to be set to 'attached so that the link points to the attached location instead of the original location. Let me know if it does the right thing for you. Best, -- Bastien
Re: [O] Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: attach link type
Thank you Bastien. It works as expected. -- Darlan At Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:24:26 +0100, Bastien b...@altern.org wrote: Hi Darlan, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira darc...@gmail.com writes: I think yes and no, depending on what the user wants to do. I my case I use org-attach as a way to store files related to org that *I don't need to access outside org-mode*. For files that I access outside org-mode I don't attach it at all. I just use links to the file when I need to. Therefore I almost always delete the original file after attaching it and that's why IMHO the stored link should point to the location where the file was attached to. Again, maybe I'm just using org-attach in a way a little different from what it was originally intended to. That's why for me It makes sense to create an attach link type. Thanks for the explanations -- I've now allowed org-attach-store-link-p to be set to 'attached so that the link points to the attached location instead of the original location. Let me know if it does the right thing for you. Best, -- Bastien
[O] Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: attach link type
At Sat, 05 Mar 2011 10:14:17 +0100, Bastien b...@altern.org wrote: Hello Bastien, Sorry for the late reply. For some reason (path related) Emacs was loading an older version of org instead of the one from git and I wasn't seeing your changes. Hi Darlan, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira darc...@gmail.com writes: I knew there was some variable to control this for all elisp links. I would prefer not to set this to nil, since I like the confirmation for other elisp links and since links for attached files are common for me I thought it could be a built-in link. But that's OK. I just introduced `org-confirm-elisp-link-not-regexp' which allows the user to avoid confirmation step for elisp code matching a regexp. Hope that helps in your case. I tested this and it works perfectly. Thanks! My common use scenario for org-attach is to store files associated to a sub-tree. For instance, when I receive a file by E-mail that I need to read I create a task for it and attach the file. I usually need to change the file name, since I don't like spaces and If would be practical if I could attach the file as it is and know that org-attach would store it the way I like. Is there a hook I could use to do this myself then? (I'm not a lisp programmer, but think I can google tips about how to do this). I've been working a bit on your idea, it's possible to create a function and to use it to rename a file when the user is attaching it - but there are problems: for example, if this function changes, then there will be *several* attachements for the same file... we don't want that. So, renaming the file belongs elsewhere IMHO. I understand. I may be using org-attach in a way a little different from what it was originally intended to. - When a file is attached a link to it could be stored in the kill ring, in case the user want to insert it in the current text. Alternatively, an interactive function to insert a link to an attached file (using the same completions we already get for opening attached files) would also be very handy. Yes, good idea. From latest git, set `org-attach-store-link-p' to `t' if you want a link to be stored in `org-stored-links' when attaching a file. This is even better then storing it in the kill ring. I noticed that the link points to the location of the original file and not to the location where it was attached (which is what thought it would do). Is this what you intended? Yes. Since the file is now also available as an attachment, a link to the source file might be useful, while a link to the attached file is a bit redundant with what org-attach allows you to do (get the file). Does that make sense? Thanks, -- Bastien I think yes and no, depending on what the user wants to do. I my case I use org-attach as a way to store files related to org that *I don't need to access outside org-mode*. For files that I access outside org-mode I don't attach it at all. I just use links to the file when I need to. Therefore I almost always delete the original file after attaching it and that's why IMHO the stored link should point to the location where the file was attached to. Again, maybe I'm just using org-attach in a way a little different from what it was originally intended to. That's why for me It makes sense to create an attach link type. -- Darlan Cavalcante
[O] Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: attach link type
Hi Darlan, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira darc...@gmail.com writes: I knew there was some variable to control this for all elisp links. I would prefer not to set this to nil, since I like the confirmation for other elisp links and since links for attached files are common for me I thought it could be a built-in link. But that's OK. I just introduced `org-confirm-elisp-link-not-regexp' which allows the user to avoid confirmation step for elisp code matching a regexp. Hope that helps in your case. My common use scenario for org-attach is to store files associated to a sub-tree. For instance, when I receive a file by E-mail that I need to read I create a task for it and attach the file. I usually need to change the file name, since I don't like spaces and If would be practical if I could attach the file as it is and know that org-attach would store it the way I like. Is there a hook I could use to do this myself then? (I'm not a lisp programmer, but think I can google tips about how to do this). I've been working a bit on your idea, it's possible to create a function and to use it to rename a file when the user is attaching it - but there are problems: for example, if this function changes, then there will be *several* attachements for the same file... we don't want that. So, renaming the file belongs elsewhere IMHO. - When a file is attached a link to it could be stored in the kill ring, in case the user want to insert it in the current text. Alternatively, an interactive function to insert a link to an attached file (using the same completions we already get for opening attached files) would also be very handy. Yes, good idea. From latest git, set `org-attach-store-link-p' to `t' if you want a link to be stored in `org-stored-links' when attaching a file. This is even better then storing it in the kill ring. I noticed that the link points to the location of the original file and not to the location where it was attached (which is what thought it would do). Is this what you intended? Yes. Since the file is now also available as an attachment, a link to the source file might be useful, while a link to the attached file is a bit redundant with what org-attach allows you to do (get the file). Does that make sense? Thanks, -- Bastien
[O] Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: attach link type
At Thu, 03 Mar 2011 11:18:06 +0100, Bastien b...@altern.org wrote: Hi Darlan, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira darc...@gmail.com writes: Using the functions already provided by org-attach I could get #+LINK: attach elisp:(org-open-file (org-attach-expand %s)) However, I always have to confirm the execution of the elisp code. You want to set `org-confirm-elisp-link-function' to nil. Thanks Bastien. I knew there was some variable to control this for all elisp links. I would prefer not to set this to nil, since I like the confirmation for other elisp links and since links for attached files are common for me I thought it could be a built-in link. But that's OK. Other useful things (just random thoughts) could be: - Perform some operation when a file is attached, such as replacing white-spaces in the file-name by underscores IMHO this goes beyond what org-attach.el should do: attach files. Besides, that would require even more confirmation steps. My common use scenario for org-attach is to store files associated to a sub-tree. For instance, when I receive a file by E-mail that I need to read I create a task for it and attach the file. I usually need to change the file name, since I don't like spaces and If would be practical if I could attach the file as it is and know that org-attach would store it the way I like. Is there a hook I could use to do this myself then? (I'm not a lisp programmer, but think I can google tips about how to do this). - When a file is attached a link to it could be stored in the kill ring, in case the user want to insert it in the current text. Alternatively, an interactive function to insert a link to an attached file (using the same completions we already get for opening attached files) would also be very handy. Yes, good idea. From latest git, set `org-attach-store-link-p' to `t' if you want a link to be stored in `org-stored-links' when attaching a file. This is even better then storing it in the kill ring. I noticed that the link points to the location of the original file and not to the location where it was attached (which is what thought it would do). Is this what you intended? Thanks, -- Bastien -- Darlan
[O] Re: [Orgmode] Feature Request: attach link type
Hi Darlan, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira darc...@gmail.com writes: Using the functions already provided by org-attach I could get #+LINK: attach elisp:(org-open-file (org-attach-expand %s)) However, I always have to confirm the execution of the elisp code. You want to set `org-confirm-elisp-link-function' to nil. Other useful things (just random thoughts) could be: - Perform some operation when a file is attached, such as replacing white-spaces in the file-name by underscores IMHO this goes beyond what org-attach.el should do: attach files. Besides, that would require even more confirmation steps. - When a file is attached a link to it could be stored in the kill ring, in case the user want to insert it in the current text. Alternatively, an interactive function to insert a link to an attached file (using the same completions we already get for opening attached files) would also be very handy. Yes, good idea. From latest git, set `org-attach-store-link-p' to `t' if you want a link to be stored in `org-stored-links' when attaching a file. Thanks, -- Bastien -- Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Feature Request: attach link type
Hello List, One org-mode feature that I find extremely useful is org-attach. I use it frequently as an easy way to store files associated with a task (in fact, any sub-tree) without worrying too much about where the files are located (for some specific sub-trees I like to set the attach directory). However, sometimes I need to put a link to an attached file in the text in its sub-tree. Up to now I just used the path to the file, but that required me to locate where the file is located in order to insert the link. This is not a lot of work, but destroys the beauty of attached files, IMHO, and I think some attach link type would be a better solution. Using the functions already provided by org-attach I could get #+LINK: attach elisp:(org-open-file (org-attach-expand %s)) However, I always have to confirm the execution of the elisp code. It would be better if this link type was already provided in org (possible when org-attach is loaded). Besides, org inline images should work with this link type. Other useful things (just random thoughts) could be: - Perform some operation when a file is attached, such as replacing white-spaces in the file-name by underscores - When a file is attached a link to it could be stored in the kill ring, in case the user want to insert it in the current text. Alternatively, an interactive function to insert a link to an attached file (using the same completions we already get for opening attached files) would also be very handy. -- Darlan ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode