Re: [Orgmode] Org Radio
On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 09:23:45AM -0500, David O'Toole wrote: Download radio.el from http://emacs-ontology-project.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/radio.el I just tried to, but couldn't: $ wget http://emacs-ontology-project.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/radio.el --10:28:06-- http://emacs-ontology-project.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/radio.el = `radio.el' Resolving emacs-ontology-project.googlecode.com... 72.14.253.82 Connecting to emacs-ontology-project.googlecode.com|72.14.253.82|:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden 10:28:07 ERROR 403: Forbidden. $ svn co http://emacs-ontology-project.googlecode.com/svn/trunk svn: PROPFIND request failed on '/svn/trunk' svn: Repository access denied. The 403 response body (which wget unfortunately does not retrieve) was: ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8? D:error xmlns:D=DAV: xmlns:m=http://apache.org/dav/xmlns; xmlns:C=svn: C:error/ m:human-readable errcode=16 Repository access denied. /m:human-readable /D:error ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Org Radio
David O'Toole [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I really like the region idea. However it could be very tricky to implement. The annotations in the radio file would be matched to regions in the target file. So presumably we save the region's coordinates in the radio file along with its annotation. We can use markers and overlay properties to keep these data consistent in the face of changes that happen in an Emacs buffer, but if a file can change outside Emacs (i.e. annotating a shared file in version control) then we have a problem Of course, you're right. Maybe the easy solution would be to implement two ways of annotating: region-wise or pseudomarker-wise. You would annotate regions in files that are not supposed to change (e.g. pdftotext'ed text files) and you would insert annotations in texts that are likely to change. The process I have in mind for first kind of annotations is something like this: 1. you're in your text buffer (file.txt) 2. M-x org-remember 3. Use a template that knows about the filename and the region When you open file.txt, you can turn org-annotation-minor-mode on, and *see* whether the text is annotated. The minor-mode would do this: 1. fetch annotations in files that are reached by M-x org-remember 2. put an overlay on these regions (if a region is annotated twice, show this by modifying the overlay - maybe different colors) What do you think? But maybe I am missing an obvious solution---can you give more details on the GPLv3 thing you are referring to? See this: http://gplv3.fsf.org/comments/gfdl-draft-1.html As you can see, commented regions get colored. More commented ones are darker. It would be *really* nice if we could implement something like this in Emacs, with Org. The one thing I currently miss in Emacs is the ability to annotate a file and directly see those annotations in the buffer. -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Org Radio
Hello Bastien, I really like the region idea. However it could be very tricky to implement. The annotations in the radio file would be matched to regions in the target file. So presumably we save the region's coordinates in the radio file along with its annotation. We can use markers and overlay properties to keep these data consistent in the face of changes that happen in an Emacs buffer, but if a file can change outside Emacs (i.e. annotating a shared file in version control) then we have a problem, because (in the new model you are suggesting) there was never anything in the file itself to indicate which regions go with which annotations. That model is interesting because it means you can annotate files without changing them (i.e. notes on /etc). But I don't see how to keep the radio file from breaking. But maybe I am missing an obvious solution---can you give more details on the GPLv3 thing you are referring to? --dave From: Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Org Radio Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:49:34 +0100 Hi David, David O'Toole [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm writing an add-on for Org (again!) This one is called radio.el. It lets you annotate files (or even individual lines within files) with arbitrary org subtrees. Great! I played with it a bit, and I like the general idea. I thought about doing something similar a while ago, because the one thing I lack in Emacs is the ability to take notes against one particular file and to see from within the file if there are notes attached to it... Maybe one direction for further improvements: I don't really like the glyph :. I would prefer that taking notes is done against a region and that the whole region get overlayed when you activate radio-mode (or whatever mode it could be.) Remember the GPLv3 comment process and the way comments were overlined. Turning your mode on could overline regions that are annotated, and those overlined regions could link to the note in the attached Org file... Does this fit with your use of the tool ? -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Org Radio
Hi David, David O'Toole [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm writing an add-on for Org (again!) This one is called radio.el. It lets you annotate files (or even individual lines within files) with arbitrary org subtrees. Great! I played with it a bit, and I like the general idea. I thought about doing something similar a while ago, because the one thing I lack in Emacs is the ability to take notes against one particular file and to see from within the file if there are notes attached to it... Maybe one direction for further improvements: I don't really like the glyph :. I would prefer that taking notes is done against a region and that the whole region get overlayed when you activate radio-mode (or whatever mode it could be.) Remember the GPLv3 comment process and the way comments were overlined. Turning your mode on could overline regions that are annotated, and those overlined regions could link to the note in the attached Org file... Does this fit with your use of the tool ? -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Org Radio
I'm writing an add-on for Org (again!) This one is called radio.el. It lets you annotate files (or even individual lines within files) with arbitrary org subtrees. This program is very preliminary, but it does work, and I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts. I have an audio-related application in mind that I'll show you later this week---adding tags and todo items to audio files, and even annotating timespans within audio files. Download radio.el from http://emacs-ontology-project.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/radio.el ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
