[Orgmode] Re: Bug: org-auto-repeat-maybe only updates first timestamp [7.01trans]
Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: (setq org-agenda-custom-commands '((d Todos (incl. deadlines) todo ((org-deadline-warning-days 100) ;; change this as you wish (org-agenda-todo-ignore-deadlines 'far Ah, brilliant. Thanks! Essentially this configuration causes the lead time indicator to mean different things in the agenda versus tags-todo lists, which is just what I wanted. I still need to decide if I prefer using lead times to scheduling the entry (which, for non-repeating entries is slightly easier with the C-c C-s keybinding). So I may submit a patch for updating all ++ repeaters when I get around to it. Or maybe all I need is a function to prompt for a lead time and add it to the deadline (from the agenda or the org file). ajk ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Bug: org-auto-repeat-maybe only updates first timestamp [7.01trans]
Andrew J. Korty a...@iu.edu writes: Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list. If I have multiple timestamps in a TODO item, org-auto-repeat-maybe only advances the first one. In the following example, I'd like both the SCHEDULED and DEADLINE timestamps to advance when the item is marked DONE, but only the SCHEDULED timestamp advances. * TODO do something by Sunday but not until Friday SCHEDULED: 2010-09-17 Fri ++1w DEADLINE: 2010-09-19 Sun ++1w I can confirm this bug, although AFAICT it occurs only when both the SCHEDULED and DEADLINE repeating syntax are of the ++ variety. E.g., The example above results in: --8---cut here---start-8--- * TODO do something by Sunday but not until Friday SCHEDULED: 2010-09-24 Fri ++1w DEADLINE: 2010-09-19 Sun ++1w --8---cut here---end---8--- However, if the scheduled timestamp is not a double plus (++), then the timestamps advance as expected: --8---cut here---start-8--- * TODO Another example SCHEDULED: 2010-09-17 Fri +1w DEADLINE: 2010-09-19 Sun ++1w --8---cut here---end---8--- becomes... --8---cut here---start-8--- * TODO Another example SCHEDULED: 2010-09-24 Fri +1w DEADLINE: 2010-09-26 Sun ++1w --8---cut here---end---8--- Other combinations also work as expected: --8---cut here---start-8--- * TODO Another example SCHEDULED: 2010-09-17 Fri .+1w DEADLINE: 2010-09-19 Sun .+1w --8---cut here---end---8--- becomes... --8---cut here---start-8--- * TODO Another example SCHEDULED: 2010-09-24 Fri .+1w DEADLINE: 2010-09-24 Fri .+1w --8---cut here---end---8--- Best, Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Bug: org-auto-repeat-maybe only updates first timestamp [7.01trans]
Andrew J. Korty a...@iu.edu writes: Andrew J. Korty a...@iu.edu wrote: Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca wrote: If I have multiple timestamps in a TODO item, org-auto-repeat-maybe only advances the first one. In the following example, I'd like both the SCHEDULED and DEADLINE timestamps to advance when the item is marked DONE, but only the SCHEDULED timestamp advances. * TODO do something by Sunday but not until Friday SCHEDULED: 2010-09-17 Fri ++1w DEADLINE: 2010-09-19 Sun ++1w Why not just drop the SCHEDULED: tag and change the DEADLINE task to DEADLINE: 2010-09-19 Sun ++1w -2d This way it won't show up in your agenda until Friday -- 2 days before it's due. Right, but then it will show up in tags-todo lists before I want it to. An example is renewing my driver's license, for which I could use DEADLINE: 2011-10-12 Wed ++4y -2w but it would show up in tags-todo lists way before it would make sense to renew. Although I suppose I could set org-agenda-ignore-deadlines to 'all and just rely on the daily/weekly agenda to show them to me ... Oops, frobbing org-agenda-ignore-deadlines won't help. It works in the case of driver's license renewal, but it breaks a different case. Say I've been asked to review a document by October 31. So I set a deadline of 2010-12-31. But I do want to see it on my tags-todo list now because if I had time now, I could review the documents and submit my comments well before the deadline. I assume you mean org-agenda-todo-ignore-deadlines. In this particular case you could set that variable to 'far, which causes deadlines to be displayed only when they fall within the lead time specified in org-agenda-warning days or (as in the example above) in the timestamp itself. Here's an example: --8---cut here---start-8--- * TODO Review really important document DEADLINE: 2010-10-31 Sun -2m * TODO Review less important document DEADLINE: 2010-10-31 Sun --8---cut here---end---8--- Let's assume the following settings: --8---cut here---start-8--- (setq org-agenda-todo-ignore-deadlines 'far org-deadline-warning-days 14) --8---cut here---end---8--- With these settings, the first task would show up *today* both in your agenda and in your TODO list, while the second task would appear in both places two weeks before the deadline. That said, I sometimes set both a scheduled and deadline timestamp to create an extra reminder/safety net, so the original bug you reported is certainly an issue. Best, Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Bug: org-auto-repeat-maybe only updates first timestamp [7.01trans]
Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: --8---cut here---start-8--- * TODO Review really important document DEADLINE: 2010-10-31 Sun -2m * TODO Review less important document DEADLINE: 2010-10-31 Sun --8---cut here---end---8--- Let's assume the following settings: --8---cut here---start-8--- (setq org-agenda-todo-ignore-deadlines 'far org-deadline-warning-days 14) --8---cut here---end---8--- With these settings, the first task would show up *today* both in your agenda and in your TODO list, while the second task would appear in both places two weeks before the deadline. Right, but what I want is for the second task to appear in the todo list even before two weeks before the deadline, and I don't want it to appear in the agenda until two weeks before the deadline. In other words, I always want to see tasks I can do now in my todo lists, whereas I only want to see tasks that are due soon in the agenda. Lengthening the lead time won't help because it unnecessarily shows tasks in the agenda that aren't due soon. But maybe my usage is not an intended one. ajk ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Bug: org-auto-repeat-maybe only updates first timestamp [7.01trans]
Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: If I have multiple timestamps in a TODO item, org-auto-repeat-maybe only advances the first one. In the following example, I'd like both the SCHEDULED and DEADLINE timestamps to advance when the item is marked DONE, but only the SCHEDULED timestamp advances. * TODO do something by Sunday but not until Friday SCHEDULED: 2010-09-17 Fri ++1w DEADLINE: 2010-09-19 Sun ++1w I can confirm this bug, although AFAICT it occurs only when both the SCHEDULED and DEADLINE repeating syntax are of the ++ variety. Agreed -- hadn't noticed that before. ajk ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Bug: org-auto-repeat-maybe only updates first timestamp [7.01trans]
Andrew J. Korty a...@iu.edu writes: Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: --8---cut here---start-8--- * TODO Review really important document DEADLINE: 2010-10-31 Sun -2m * TODO Review less important document DEADLINE: 2010-10-31 Sun --8---cut here---end---8--- Let's assume the following settings: --8---cut here---start-8--- (setq org-agenda-todo-ignore-deadlines 'far org-deadline-warning-days 14) --8---cut here---end---8--- With these settings, the first task would show up *today* both in your agenda and in your TODO list, while the second task would appear in both places two weeks before the deadline. Right, but what I want is for the second task to appear in the todo list even before two weeks before the deadline, and I don't want it to appear in the agenda until two weeks before the deadline. In other words, I always want to see tasks I can do now in my todo lists, whereas I only want to see tasks that are due soon in the agenda. Lengthening the lead time won't help because it unnecessarily shows tasks in the agenda that aren't due soon. But maybe my usage is not an intended one. Oops. I misunderstood your request. What you are describing is org-mode's default behavior---i.e., to show all todos with deadlines in the todo list, but only to show deadlines in the agenda when they are within org-deadline-warning days. To ensure this behavior, you'll want to make sure that org-agenda-todo-ignore-deadlines is set to nil (the default). All todos with deadlines will then appear in your todo list. Best, Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Bug: org-auto-repeat-maybe only updates first timestamp [7.01trans]
Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: Andrew J. Korty a...@iu.edu writes: Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: --8---cut here---start-8--- * TODO Review really important document DEADLINE: 2010-10-31 Sun -2m * TODO Review less important document DEADLINE: 2010-10-31 Sun --8---cut here---end---8--- Let's assume the following settings: --8---cut here---start-8--- (setq org-agenda-todo-ignore-deadlines 'far org-deadline-warning-days 14) --8---cut here---end---8--- With these settings, the first task would show up *today* both in your agenda and in your TODO list, while the second task would appear in both places two weeks before the deadline. Right, but what I want is for the second task to appear in the todo list even before two weeks before the deadline, and I don't want it to appear in the agenda until two weeks before the deadline. In other words, I always want to see tasks I can do now in my todo lists, whereas I only want to see tasks that are due soon in the agenda. Lengthening the lead time won't help because it unnecessarily shows tasks in the agenda that aren't due soon. But maybe my usage is not an intended one. Oops. I misunderstood your request. What you are describing is org-mode's default behavior---i.e., to show all todos with deadlines in the todo list, but only to show deadlines in the agenda when they are within org-deadline-warning days. To ensure this behavior, you'll want to make sure that org-agenda-todo-ignore-deadlines is set to nil (the default). All todos with deadlines will then appear in your todo list. True, but then we're back to the problem with the driver's license renewal. ajk ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Bug: org-auto-repeat-maybe only updates first timestamp [7.01trans]
Andrew J. Korty a...@iu.edu writes: Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: Andrew J. Korty a...@iu.edu writes: Matt Lundin m...@imapmail.org wrote: --8---cut here---start-8--- * TODO Review really important document DEADLINE: 2010-10-31 Sun -2m * TODO Review less important document DEADLINE: 2010-10-31 Sun --8---cut here---end---8--- Let's assume the following settings: --8---cut here---start-8--- (setq org-agenda-todo-ignore-deadlines 'far org-deadline-warning-days 14) --8---cut here---end---8--- With these settings, the first task would show up *today* both in your agenda and in your TODO list, while the second task would appear in both places two weeks before the deadline. Right, but what I want is for the second task to appear in the todo list even before two weeks before the deadline, and I don't want it to appear in the agenda until two weeks before the deadline. In other words, I always want to see tasks I can do now in my todo lists, whereas I only want to see tasks that are due soon in the agenda. Lengthening the lead time won't help because it unnecessarily shows tasks in the agenda that aren't due soon. But maybe my usage is not an intended one. Oops. I misunderstood your request. What you are describing is org-mode's default behavior---i.e., to show all todos with deadlines in the todo list, but only to show deadlines in the agenda when they are within org-deadline-warning days. To ensure this behavior, you'll want to make sure that org-agenda-todo-ignore-deadlines is set to nil (the default). All todos with deadlines will then appear in your todo list. True, but then we're back to the problem with the driver's license renewal. I knew there was a reason for example I provided above. :) If I understand you correctly, you'd like: 1) deadlines to show up on your todo list, 2) but not if they are too far away (let's say more than 1 year from now). I believe this scenario is essentially covered by the original example I provided; all that is required is some tweaking. Does this custom command accomplish what you're looking for? --8---cut here---start-8--- (setq org-agenda-custom-commands '((d Todos (incl. deadlines) todo ((org-deadline-warning-days 100) ;; change this as you wish (org-agenda-todo-ignore-deadlines 'far --8---cut here---end---8--- With this command, you'd see all todos with deadlines that fall a reasonable distance from the present (in this case, the next 100 days), but wouldn't see the drivers license renewal 4 years from now. Best, Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Bug: org-auto-repeat-maybe only updates first timestamp [7.01trans]
Andrew J. Korty a...@iu.edu writes: Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and what in fact did happen. You don't know how to make a good report? See http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list. If I have multiple timestamps in a TODO item, org-auto-repeat-maybe only advances the first one. In the following example, I'd like both the SCHEDULED and DEADLINE timestamps to advance when the item is marked DONE, but only the SCHEDULED timestamp advances. * TODO do something by Sunday but not until Friday SCHEDULED: 2010-09-17 Fri ++1w DEADLINE: 2010-09-19 Sun ++1w Why not just drop the SCHEDULED: tag and change the DEADLINE task to DEADLINE: 2010-09-19 Sun ++1w -2d This way it won't show up in your agenda until Friday -- 2 days before it's due. -Bernt This behavior exists in HEAD as well as previous releases, including 7.01h. Emacs : GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin10.0.0, NS apple-appkit-1038.11) of 2009-11-10 Package: Org-mode version 7.01trans ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Bug: org-auto-repeat-maybe only updates first timestamp [7.01trans]
Andrew J. Korty a...@iu.edu wrote: Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca wrote: If I have multiple timestamps in a TODO item, org-auto-repeat-maybe only advances the first one. In the following example, I'd like both the SCHEDULED and DEADLINE timestamps to advance when the item is marked DONE, but only the SCHEDULED timestamp advances. * TODO do something by Sunday but not until Friday SCHEDULED: 2010-09-17 Fri ++1w DEADLINE: 2010-09-19 Sun ++1w Why not just drop the SCHEDULED: tag and change the DEADLINE task to DEADLINE: 2010-09-19 Sun ++1w -2d This way it won't show up in your agenda until Friday -- 2 days before it's due. Right, but then it will show up in tags-todo lists before I want it to. An example is renewing my driver's license, for which I could use DEADLINE: 2011-10-12 Wed ++4y -2w but it would show up in tags-todo lists way before it would make sense to renew. Although I suppose I could set org-agenda-ignore-deadlines to 'all and just rely on the daily/weekly agenda to show them to me ... Oops, frobbing org-agenda-ignore-deadlines won't help. It works in the case of driver's license renewal, but it breaks a different case. Say I've been asked to review a document by October 31. So I set a deadline of 2010-12-31. But I do want to see it on my tags-todo list now because if I had time now, I could review the documents and submit my comments well before the deadline. So that's why I use both SCHEDULE and DEADLINE: for tasks I want to hide from the daily/weekly agenda *and* tags-todo lists until a certain date without removing unscheduled items with deadlines from tags-todo lists. ajk ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Bug: org-auto-repeat-maybe only updates first timestamp [7.01trans]
Bernt Hansen be...@norang.ca wrote: If I have multiple timestamps in a TODO item, org-auto-repeat-maybe only advances the first one. In the following example, I'd like both the SCHEDULED and DEADLINE timestamps to advance when the item is marked DONE, but only the SCHEDULED timestamp advances. * TODO do something by Sunday but not until Friday SCHEDULED: 2010-09-17 Fri ++1w DEADLINE: 2010-09-19 Sun ++1w Why not just drop the SCHEDULED: tag and change the DEADLINE task to DEADLINE: 2010-09-19 Sun ++1w -2d This way it won't show up in your agenda until Friday -- 2 days before it's due. Right, but then it will show up in tags-todo lists before I want it to. An example is renewing my driver's license, for which I could use DEADLINE: 2011-10-12 Wed ++4y -2w but it would show up in tags-todo lists way before it would make sense to renew. Although I suppose I could set org-agenda-ignore-deadlines to 'all and just rely on the daily/weekly agenda to show them to me ... ajk ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
