Re: [Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 09:49:58AM +, Dan Davison wrote: Adam Spiers orgmode at adamspiers.org writes: On 30th December I posted a significant update to org-mairix.el which added mutt support: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/3386/focus=4908 Perhaps I should push it into the CONTRIB/ directory myself? However, there are one or two issues and design decisions pending: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/5044/focus=5063 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/5045/focus=5064 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/4217/focus=4635 but I was hoping to get some feedback from the (apparently tiny?) user-base first. Is there anyone other than myself and Austin currently reading the list who uses org-mairix.el, or who might be interested in using it? I'm interested! I use mutt, and have recently started using mairix as a result of these threads. Could someone give an update on the current state of mutt support in org-mairix? (it seems that Adam's mutt stuff isn't yet in the version in the contrib dir) On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 12:24:48PM -0700, Cezar Halmagean wrote: Yes, I am interested too. On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 09:39:37PM +0200, Gour wrote: I'm one user... Sincerely, Gour OK, good to know there are a few of us! I have been forcibly absent from the list recently due to work pressures but I have a few days off now and am *hoping* to catch up on some of the backlog. In the meantime, it is worth mentioning that I have not made any changes since version 0.5 which I posted on 30th December as per the top link above. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el
Dan Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: user-base first. Is there anyone other than myself and Austin currently reading the list who uses org-mairix.el, or who might be interested in using it? Yes, I am interested too. Cezar ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el
Cezar == Cezar Halmagean [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cezar Dan Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: user-base first. Is there anyone other than myself and Austin currently reading the list who uses org-mairix.el, or who might be interested in using it? I'm one user... Sincerely, Gour -- Gour | Zagreb, Croatia | GPG key: C6E7162D pgpAPXZcSOJUe.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el
Adam Spiers orgmode at adamspiers.org writes: ... On 30th December I posted a significant update to org-mairix.el which added mutt support: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/3386/focus=4908 Perhaps I should push it into the CONTRIB/ directory myself? However, there are one or two issues and design decisions pending: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/5044/focus=5063 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/5045/focus=5064 http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/4217/focus=4635 but I was hoping to get some feedback from the (apparently tiny?) user-base first. Is there anyone other than myself and Austin currently reading the list who uses org-mairix.el, or who might be interested in using it? I'm interested! I use mutt, and have recently started using mairix as a result of these threads. Could someone give an update on the current state of mutt support in org-mairix? (it seems that Adam's mutt stuff isn't yet in the version in the contrib dir) Dan ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode at gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 09:34:22PM +, Adam Spiers wrote: [...] Also please note that mutt does not index mail archives by Message-ID so it does not have the ability to jump directly a particular message by Message-ID. As a workaround, you can do the following: mutt -f $FOLDER -e push \search ~i $MIDenterenter\ Jürgen -- Jürgen Doser+41 44 632 0993 phone Information Security, ETH Zurich+41 44 632 1172 fax IFW C48.2, Haldeneggsteig 4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8092 Zurich, Switzerlandwww.infsec.ethz.ch/people/doserj ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el
On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 04:02:37PM +, Adam Spiers wrote: On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 01:32:32PM +0100, Jürgen Doser wrote: On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 09:34:22PM +, Adam Spiers wrote: [...] Also please note that mutt does not index mail archives by Message-ID so it does not have the ability to jump directly a particular message by Message-ID. As a workaround, you can do the following: mutt -f $FOLDER -e push \search ~i $MIDenterenter\ Well, that somewhat defeats the main advantage of this org-mairix glue, which is that it does not ever matter which folder contains the mail. I know. But it should be possible to get the folder from mairix, e.g., by parsing the output of a mairix -r search. Another possible way could be to link to mairix -t searches. Then you could still jump to the exact message, but also have at least the surronding thread of the message available. Jürgen -- Jürgen Doser+41 44 632 0993 phone Information Security, ETH Zurich+41 44 632 1172 fax IFW C48.2, Haldeneggsteig 4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8092 Zurich, Switzerlandwww.infsec.ethz.ch/people/doserj ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el
cezar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Gijs Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 10 Feb 2008, Bastien Guerry wrote: Adam Spiers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but I was hoping to get some feedback from the (apparently tiny?) user-base first. Is there anyone other than myself and Austin currently reading the list who uses org-mairix.el, or who might be interested in using it? Thanks for all the usage feedback so far. I've just started using mairix, and I think it's great. Org-mode integration should be cool even tho I don't yet know how it can come usefull. Oh, it's so useful! :-) Turning emails into TODOs via org-remember is one extremely useful application, and storing hyperlinks from within project material to relevant mails or mail threads is another, e.g. * PROJECT finish org-mairix.el ** TODO get buy-in to standardising a more flexible link format *** [[mairix:m:[EMAIL PROTECTED] email linked by Message-ID]] *** [[mairix:org,mairix][all emails relating to org-mairix]] ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 12:59:26PM -0800, Cezar Halmagean wrote: Adam Spiers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, it's so useful! :-) Turning emails into TODOs via org-remember is one extremely useful application, and storing hyperlinks from within project material to relevant mails or mail threads is another, e.g. * PROJECT finish org-mairix.el ** TODO get buy-in to standardising a more flexible link format *** [[mairix:m:[EMAIL PROTECTED] email linked by Message-ID]] *** [[mairix:org,mairix][all emails relating to org-mairix]] Can you provide some usefull workflow / ideas on how one would use org + mairix in some cool ways ? Right now If I want to store a link to a gnus email, I just org-store-link, create a remember template, then org-insert-link, and C-c C-c to store the remember buffer. What does mairix add to that ? First you need to understand what mairix does: http://www.rpcurnow.force9.co.uk/mairix/ org-mairix lets you create hyperlinks which will execute arbitrary mairix searches on your mail archives, which can be quite complex, e.g. all mails from a particular mailing list between 6 and 2 months ago containing the word foo but not the word bar. I use mutt not gnus, but I'm guessing all you are doing right now is inserting links to single mails? Also please note that mutt does not index mail archives by Message-ID so it does not have the ability to jump directly a particular message by Message-ID. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el
Adam Spiers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First you need to understand what mairix does: http://www.rpcurnow.force9.co.uk/mairix/ org-mairix lets you create hyperlinks which will execute arbitrary mairix searches on your mail archives, which can be quite complex, e.g. all mails from a particular mailing list between 6 and 2 months ago containing the word foo but not the word bar. I use mutt not gnus, but I'm guessing all you are doing right now is inserting links to single mails? Also please note that mutt does not index mail archives by Message-ID so it does not have the ability to jump directly a particular message by Message-ID. Yeah, well I have it installed and org-mairix too, but I just don't see how I can make it usefull yet. I usually link to one message only, and that's rare also. I see the power that mairix + org provide and I think in some cases it can become really usefull. Regards, Cezar ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el
Gijs Hillenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 10 Feb 2008, Bastien Guerry wrote: Adam Spiers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but I was hoping to get some feedback from the (apparently tiny?) user-base first. Is there anyone other than myself and Austin currently reading the list who uses org-mairix.el, or who might be interested in using it? I've just started using mairix, and I think it's great. Org-mode integration should be cool even tho I don't yet know how it can come usefull. Regards, Cezar ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode and mairix
Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Aug 15, 2007, at 0:54, Steven Lumos wrote: I have not been following very closely, so sorry if this is redundant. I currently use mairix through org-follow-mhe-link, although I had to do a little hacking to make MH-E do a search by message-id. Interesting, maybe you would like to share your hack? Well... It's not really useful to add to org, and guaranteed to break for anyone not using mairix for MH-E searching, but here it is. The only change is prefixing the message-id with m:. (defun org-follow-mhe-link (folder article) Follow an MHE link to FOLDER and ARTICLE. If ARTICLE is nil FOLDER is shown. If the configuration variable `org-mhe-search-all-folders' is t and `mh-searcher' is pick, ARTICLE is searched in all folders. Indexed searches (swish++, namazu, and others supported by MH-E) will always search in all folders. (require 'mh-e) (require 'mh-search) (require 'mh-utils) (mh-find-path) (if (not article) (mh-visit-folder (mh-normalize-folder-name folder)) (mh-search-choose) (if (equal mh-searcher 'pick) (progn (mh-search folder (list --message-id article)) (when (and org-mhe-search-all-folders (not (org-mhe-get-message-real-folder))) (kill-this-buffer) (mh-search + (list --message-id article (mh-search + (list (concat m: article))) (if (org-mhe-get-message-real-folder) (mh-show-msg 1) (kill-this-buffer) (error Message not found) It all works great for me, but I think it would be nice if following a link didn't depend on what MUA or search I happen to use. Couldn't it easily enough be mail:...? Then I could send an Org file to a friend and the link will Just Work for them. That would not work universally either, for example on a windows machine. - Carsten I'm a non-Windows person, but in theory I think I could write a program that would drive Outlook or whatever (even Google Desktop Search?) through COM to bring up a message by message-id. Likewise, you could probably snarf the message-id of the currently displayed message from Outlook for org-store-outlook-link. :-) Steve ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode and mairix
Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe we could use something like `org-custom-link-types' to do the trick: its need to know about new link-types, major modes where they come into play and what function `org-open-at-point' calls for them. For example : (setq org-custom-link-types '((mairix (gnus-summary-mode gnus-article-mode) 'org-make-mairix-link 'org-follow-mairix-link))) It will make Org knowing about a new mairix link type. When you're in `gnus-summary-mode' or `gnus-article-mode' this type is used instead of the default `gnus' type. `org-make-mairix-link' is used to build the link, and `org-follow-mairix-link' is used to open link at point. Am not completely sure on how this could be achieved in details, but I believe it's a better approach to the integration of tools like mairix, tracker and the like. What do you think? I think it's a very good idea. And we don't even need to restrict ourselves within index and search tools. It could be just an extension to `org-open-at-point'. When the link type is not one of the built-ins, the function uses a user customizable `alist' of link type keywords and corresponding user supplied functions. However, some kind of community contributed code base must be set up so that people like me who don't know much about elisp can grab some code which works out of box. And it would be also much easier to track api changes in the main org code. Let's see what Carsten has to say about this, when he comes back. Xiao-Yong -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- c/*__o/* \ * (__ */\ ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode and mairix
On 2007-07-30 17:02 +0100, Bastien wrote: Georg C. F. Greve [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you think there is any chance it would make it into the Org package? I would greatly prefer not having to maintain a patch for a longer period of time. I can understand that. Carsten, what do you think? I'd prefer to use tracker¹, as it is one component of the GNU desktop -- Gnome. There are just so many random email indexing tools. If we want to pick one, Tracker is a good choice. Footnotes: ¹ http://www.gnome.org/projects/tracker/ -- Leo sdl.web AT gmail.com (GPG Key: 9283AA3F) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
