Re: [Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el

2008-05-27 Thread Adam Spiers
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 09:49:58AM +, Dan Davison wrote:
> Adam Spiers  adamspiers.org> writes:
> > On 30th December I posted a significant update to org-mairix.el which
> > added mutt support:
> > 
> >   http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/3386/focus=4908
> > 
> > Perhaps I should push it into the CONTRIB/ directory myself?  However,
> > there are one or two issues and design decisions pending:
> > 
> >   http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/5044/focus=5063
> >   http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/5045/focus=5064
> >   http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/4217/focus=4635
> > 
> > but I was hoping to get some feedback from the (apparently tiny?)
> > user-base first.  Is there anyone other than myself and Austin
> > currently reading the list who uses org-mairix.el, or who might be
> > interested in using it?
> 
> I'm interested! I use mutt, and have recently started using mairix as a result
> of these threads. Could someone give an update on the current state of mutt
> support in org-mairix? (it seems that Adam's mutt stuff isn't yet in the 
> version
> in the contrib dir)

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 12:24:48PM -0700, Cezar Halmagean wrote:
> Yes, I am interested too.

On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 09:39:37PM +0200, Gour wrote:
> I'm one user...
> 
> Sincerely,
> Gour

OK, good to know there are a few of us!  I have been forcibly absent
from the list recently due to work pressures but I have a few days off
now and am *hoping* to catch up on some of the backlog.  In the
meantime, it is worth mentioning that I have not made any changes
since version 0.5 which I posted on 30th December as per the top link
above.


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[Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el

2008-05-25 Thread Gour
> "Cezar" == Cezar Halmagean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

Cezar> Dan Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> user-base first.  Is there anyone other than myself and Austin
>>> currently reading the list who uses org-mairix.el, or who might be
>>> interested in using it?
>> 

I'm one user...

Sincerely,
Gour


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[Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el

2008-05-25 Thread Cezar Halmagean
Dan Davison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> user-base first.  Is there anyone other than myself and Austin
>> currently reading the list who uses org-mairix.el, or who might be
>> interested in using it?
>


Yes, I am interested too.

Cezar



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[Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el

2008-05-22 Thread Dan Davison
Adam Spiers  adamspiers.org> writes:

> 
<...>
> On 30th December I posted a significant update to org-mairix.el which
> added mutt support:
> 
>   http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/3386/focus=4908
> 
> Perhaps I should push it into the CONTRIB/ directory myself?  However,
> there are one or two issues and design decisions pending:
> 
>   http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/5044/focus=5063
>   http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/5045/focus=5064
>   http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/4217/focus=4635
> 
> but I was hoping to get some feedback from the (apparently tiny?)
> user-base first.  Is there anyone other than myself and Austin
> currently reading the list who uses org-mairix.el, or who might be
> interested in using it?

I'm interested! I use mutt, and have recently started using mairix as a result
of these threads. Could someone give an update on the current state of mutt
support in org-mairix? (it seems that Adam's mutt stuff isn't yet in the version
in the contrib dir)

Dan

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el

2008-02-18 Thread Jürgen Doser
On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 04:02:37PM +, Adam Spiers wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 01:32:32PM +0100, Jürgen Doser wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 09:34:22PM +, Adam Spiers wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > Also please note that mutt does not index mail archives by Message-ID
> > > so it does not have the ability to jump directly a particular message
> > > by Message-ID.
> > 
> > As a workaround, you can do the following:
> > 
> > mutt -f $FOLDER -e "push \" ~i $MID\"" 
> 
> Well, that somewhat defeats the main advantage of this org-mairix
> glue, which is that it does not ever matter which folder contains the
> mail.

I know. But it should be possible to get the folder from mairix,
e.g., by parsing the output of a "mairix -r" search.

Another possible way could be to link to "mairix -t" searches. Then
you could still jump to the exact message, but also have at least the 
surronding thread of the message available.

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el

2008-02-18 Thread Adam Spiers
On Mon, Feb 18, 2008 at 01:32:32PM +0100, Jürgen Doser wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 09:34:22PM +, Adam Spiers wrote:
> > [...]
> > Also please note that mutt does not index mail archives by Message-ID
> > so it does not have the ability to jump directly a particular message
> > by Message-ID.
> 
> As a workaround, you can do the following:
> 
> mutt -f $FOLDER -e "push \" ~i $MID\"" 

Well, that somewhat defeats the main advantage of this org-mairix
glue, which is that it does not ever matter which folder contains the
mail.  The containing folder is likely to be different at the time
when you are org-remembering (creating the link to) it, than when you
are later following that link.  In the typical GTD workflow, at link
creation time you are processing it, so it is in your inbox, then you
decide to defer the associated TODO, so you archive the mail
*anywhere* out of the inbox (so that you don't have to waste time
manually deciding where to archive it), and add the link to your TODO
list.


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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el

2008-02-18 Thread Jürgen Doser
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 09:34:22PM +, Adam Spiers wrote:
> [...]
> Also please note that mutt does not index mail archives by Message-ID
> so it does not have the ability to jump directly a particular message
> by Message-ID.

As a workaround, you can do the following:

mutt -f $FOLDER -e "push \" ~i $MID\"" 

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[Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el

2008-02-17 Thread Cezar Halmagean
Adam Spiers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>
> First you need to understand what mairix does:
>
>   http://www.rpcurnow.force9.co.uk/mairix/
>
> org-mairix lets you create hyperlinks which will execute arbitrary
> mairix searches on your mail archives, which can be quite complex,
> e.g. all mails from a particular mailing list between 6 and 2 months
> ago containing the word "foo" but not the word "bar".
>
> I use mutt not gnus, but I'm guessing all you are doing right now is
> inserting links to single mails?
>
> Also please note that mutt does not index mail archives by Message-ID
> so it does not have the ability to jump directly a particular message
> by Message-ID.
>

Yeah, well I have it installed and org-mairix too, but I just don't see
how I can make it usefull yet. I usually link to one message only, and
that's rare also.

I see the power that mairix + org provide and I think in some cases it
can become really usefull.

Regards,
Cezar



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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el

2008-02-17 Thread Adam Spiers
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 12:59:26PM -0800, Cezar Halmagean wrote:
> Adam Spiers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Oh, it's so useful! :-)  Turning emails into TODOs via org-remember is
> > one extremely useful application, and storing hyperlinks from within
> > project material to relevant mails or mail threads is another, e.g.
> >
> >   * PROJECT finish org-mairix.el
> >   ** TODO get buy-in to standardising a more flexible link format
> >   *** [[mairix:m:[EMAIL PROTECTED] email linked by Message-ID]]
> >   *** [[mairix:org,mairix][all emails relating to org-mairix]]
> 
> Can you provide some usefull workflow / ideas on how one would use org +
> mairix in some cool ways ? Right now If I want to store a link to a gnus
> email, I just org-store-link, create a remember template, then
> org-insert-link, and C-c C-c to store the remember buffer.
> 
> What does mairix add to that ?

First you need to understand what mairix does:

  http://www.rpcurnow.force9.co.uk/mairix/

org-mairix lets you create hyperlinks which will execute arbitrary
mairix searches on your mail archives, which can be quite complex,
e.g. all mails from a particular mailing list between 6 and 2 months
ago containing the word "foo" but not the word "bar".

I use mutt not gnus, but I'm guessing all you are doing right now is
inserting links to single mails?

Also please note that mutt does not index mail archives by Message-ID
so it does not have the ability to jump directly a particular message
by Message-ID.


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[Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el

2008-02-17 Thread Cezar Halmagean

Adam Spiers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Oh, it's so useful! :-)  Turning emails into TODOs via org-remember is
> one extremely useful application, and storing hyperlinks from within
> project material to relevant mails or mail threads is another, e.g.
>
>   * PROJECT finish org-mairix.el
>   ** TODO get buy-in to standardising a more flexible link format
>   *** [[mairix:m:[EMAIL PROTECTED] email linked by Message-ID]]
>   *** [[mairix:org,mairix][all emails relating to org-mairix]]
>

Can you provide some usefull workflow / ideas on how one would use org +
mairix in some cool ways ? Right now If I want to store a link to a gnus
email, I just org-store-link, create a remember template, then
org-insert-link, and C-c C-c to store the remember buffer.

What does mairix add to that ?

Regards,
Cezar



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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el

2008-02-17 Thread Adam Spiers
cezar ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Gijs Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > On 10 Feb 2008, Bastien Guerry wrote:
> >> Adam Spiers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>> but I was hoping to get some feedback from the (apparently tiny?)
> >>> user-base first.  Is there anyone other than myself and Austin
> >>> currently reading the list who uses org-mairix.el, or who might be
> >>> interested in using it?

Thanks for all the usage feedback so far.

> I've just started using mairix, and I think it's great. Org-mode
> integration should be cool even tho I don't yet know how it can come
> usefull.

Oh, it's so useful! :-)  Turning emails into TODOs via org-remember is
one extremely useful application, and storing hyperlinks from within
project material to relevant mails or mail threads is another, e.g.

  * PROJECT finish org-mairix.el
  ** TODO get buy-in to standardising a more flexible link format
  *** [[mairix:m:[EMAIL PROTECTED] email linked by Message-ID]]
  *** [[mairix:org,mairix][all emails relating to org-mairix]]


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[Orgmode] Re: Integration of Org mode with Mairix: org-mairix.el

2008-02-10 Thread cezar

Gijs Hillenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 10 Feb 2008, Bastien Guerry wrote:
>
>> Adam Spiers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>> but I was hoping to get some feedback from the (apparently tiny?)
>>> user-base first.  Is there anyone other than myself and Austin
>>> currently reading the list who uses org-mairix.el, or who might be
>>> interested in using it?
>

I've just started using mairix, and I think it's great. Org-mode
integration should be cool even tho I don't yet know how it can come
usefull.

Regards,
Cezar




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