[Orgmode] Re: Release 7.02
Hi Carsten, Thanks a lot to you (and all others who made this happen) for this beautiful new version!! Carsten Dominik wrote: Lists handling === Due to changes made to lists, it is no longer possible to have a sublist, some text and then another sublist while still in the same top-level list item, like in the following situation: - Some list + A first sublist + of two elements A text belonging to the top-level list + Then another sublist + and a second element in it - End of main list Basically, it means that this entry for this entry (about Org Babel) from an old file of mine (update this morning) does not publish anymore the same way: --8---cut here---start-8--- * How to view the results - =C-c C-v C-v= (or =C-c C-v v=) -- View the expanded body of a code block. - =C-c C-v C-z= -- Switch to the *session* of the current code block (first, you need to add =:session= to it). Use =C-u C-c C-v C-z= to bring up the session with the input variable pre-loaded. =C-c C-v z= (=org-babel-switch-to-session-with-code=) is a variant of =C-c C-v C-z= (=org-babel-switch-to-session=): instead of switching to the session buffer, it splits the window between: + the session buffer, and + a language major-mode edit buffer for the code block in question. This can be convenient for using language major mode for interacting with the session buffer. --8---cut here---end---8--- The last sentence is *not* considered part of the second element of the first list. Although I've seen similar constructs in many, many documents, does anyone know enough rules of style to tell me if this is a wrong way to write things down? Or, does some possibility still exist to support this seamlessly? Make footnotes work correctly in message-mode == The footnotes code now searches for the message delimiter -- in order to place footnotes before the signature. Thanks to Tassilo Horn for this patch. Just a detail: the delimiter is -- (space after the dashes). Best regards, Seb -- Sébastien Vauban ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Release 7.02
Make footnotes work correctly in message-mode == The footnotes code now searches for the message delimiter -- in order to place footnotes before the signature. Thanks to Tassilo Horn for this patch. Just a detail: the delimiter is -- (space after the dashes). Really? Is that the official delimiter? I never knew. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Release 7.02
Hi Sebastian, On Oct 29, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Sébastien Vauban wrote: Hi Carsten, Thanks a lot to you (and all others who made this happen) for this beautiful new version!! Carsten Dominik wrote: Lists handling === Due to changes made to lists, it is no longer possible to have a sublist, some text and then another sublist while still in the same top- level list item, like in the following situation: - Some list + A first sublist + of two elements A text belonging to the top-level list + Then another sublist + and a second element in it - End of main list Basically, it means that this entry for this entry (about Org Babel) from an old file of mine (update this morning) does not publish anymore the same way: --8---cut here---start-8--- * How to view the results - =C-c C-v C-v= (or =C-c C-v v=) -- View the expanded body of a code block. - =C-c C-v C-z= -- Switch to the *session* of the current code block (first, you need to add =:session= to it). Use =C-u C-c C-v C-z= to bring up the session with the input variable pre-loaded. =C-c C-v z= (=org-babel-switch-to-session-with-code=) is a variant of =C-c C-v C-z= (=org-babel-switch-to-session=): instead of switching to the session buffer, it splits the window between: + the session buffer, and + a language major-mode edit buffer for the code block in question. This can be convenient for using language major mode for interacting with the session buffer. --8---cut here---end---8--- The last sentence is *not* considered part of the second element of the first list. Although I've seen similar constructs in many, many documents, does anyone know enough rules of style to tell me if this is a wrong way to write things down? Or, does some possibility still exist to support this seamlessly? It is not that this would be bad style. In fact I do miss this kind of structure as well, and accepting loosing it was the biggest argument against Nicolas' change. However, the trade was for much greater stability and consistency of plain lists, Nicolas has done some great work here. Another issue was that the LaTeX exporter never had any support for these structures, so that was inconsistent for a long time. - Carsten Make footnotes work correctly in message-mode == The footnotes code now searches for the message delimiter -- in order to place footnotes before the signature. Thanks to Tassilo Horn for this patch. Just a detail: the delimiter is -- (space after the dashes). Best regards, Seb -- Sébastien Vauban ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Release 7.02
Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik wrote: On Oct 29, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Sébastien Vauban wrote: Carsten Dominik wrote: Due to changes made to lists, it is no longer possible to have a sublist, some text and then another sublist while still in the same top- level list item, like in the following situation: - Some list + A first sublist + of two elements A text belonging to the top-level list + Then another sublist + and a second element in it - End of main list Basically, it means that this entry for this entry (about Org Babel) from an old file of mine (update this morning) does not publish anymore the same way: --8---cut here---start-8--- * How to view the results - =C-c C-v C-v= (or =C-c C-v v=) -- View the expanded body of a code block. - =C-c C-v C-z= -- Switch to the *session* of the current code block (first, you need to add =:session= to it). Use =C-u C-c C-v C-z= to bring up the session with the input variable pre-loaded. =C-c C-v z= (=org-babel-switch-to-session-with-code=) is a variant of =C-c C-v C-z= (=org-babel-switch-to-session=): instead of switching to the session buffer, it splits the window between: + the session buffer, and + a language major-mode edit buffer for the code block in question. This can be convenient for using language major mode for interacting with the session buffer. --8---cut here---end---8--- The last sentence is *not* considered part of the second element of the first list. Although I've seen similar constructs in many, many documents, does anyone know enough rules of style to tell me if this is a wrong way to write things down? Or, does some possibility still exist to support this seamlessly? It is not that this would be bad style. In fact I do miss this kind of structure as well, and accepting loosing it was the biggest argument against Nicolas' change. Does that mean that we must admit this will stay like that forever, or will one try to look and see if it's possible to make that extension? However, the trade was for much greater stability and consistency of plain lists, Nicolas has done some great work here. Another issue was that the LaTeX exporter never had any support for these structures, so that was inconsistent for a long time. I know that Bastien told he would fix it when he would have time. So, that did not seem to be an impossible wish. Best regards, Seb -- Sébastien Vauban ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Release 7.02
On Oct 29, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Sébastien Vauban wrote: Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik wrote: On Oct 29, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Sébastien Vauban wrote: Carsten Dominik wrote: Due to changes made to lists, it is no longer possible to have a sublist, some text and then another sublist while still in the same top- level list item, like in the following situation: - Some list + A first sublist + of two elements A text belonging to the top-level list + Then another sublist + and a second element in it - End of main list Basically, it means that this entry for this entry (about Org Babel) from an old file of mine (update this morning) does not publish anymore the same way: --8---cut here---start-8--- * How to view the results - =C-c C-v C-v= (or =C-c C-v v=) -- View the expanded body of a code block. - =C-c C-v C-z= -- Switch to the *session* of the current code block (first, you need to add =:session= to it). Use =C-u C-c C-v C-z= to bring up the session with the input variable pre-loaded. =C-c C-v z= (=org-babel-switch-to-session-with-code=) is a variant of =C-c C-v C-z= (=org-babel-switch-to-session=): instead of switching to the session buffer, it splits the window between: + the session buffer, and + a language major-mode edit buffer for the code block in question. This can be convenient for using language major mode for interacting with the session buffer. --8---cut here---end---8--- The last sentence is *not* considered part of the second element of the first list. Although I've seen similar constructs in many, many documents, does anyone know enough rules of style to tell me if this is a wrong way to write things down? Or, does some possibility still exist to support this seamlessly? It is not that this would be bad style. In fact I do miss this kind of structure as well, and accepting loosing it was the biggest argument against Nicolas' change. Does that mean that we must admit this will stay like that forever, or will one try to look and see if it's possible to make that extension? I am not against it if it can be done in a clean way that is in keeping with the structure and philosophy Nicolas has implemented. I think this will mean that we would not use just indentation to define this, but some explicit piece of syntax. Patches and discussions about this will always be welcome, no need to close any door for good. However, the trade was for much greater stability and consistency of plain lists, Nicolas has done some great work here. Another issue was that the LaTeX exporter never had any support for these structures, so that was inconsistent for a long time. I know that Bastien told he would fix it when he would have time. So, that did not seem to be an impossible wish. Trust me, it is not something I can do in a day or two, or I would have done it a long time ago. I don't know why Bastien has never done it. bastien, did you ever try? - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Release 7.02
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Make footnotes work correctly in message-mode == The footnotes code now searches for the message delimiter -- in order to place footnotes before the signature. Thanks to Tassilo Horn for this patch. Just a detail: the delimiter is -- (space after the dashes). Really? Is that the official delimiter? I never knew. I suppose so, it's mentioned in the RFC[1] [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3676#section-4.3 -- Miłego dnia, Łukasz Stelmach ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Release 7.02
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Make footnotes work correctly in message-mode == The footnotes code now searches for the message delimiter -- in order to place footnotes before the signature. Thanks to Tassilo Horn for this patch. Just a detail: the delimiter is -- (space after the dashes). Really? Is that the official delimiter? I never knew. - Carsten More precisely: ^-- $ in a regex form. That is, a single line consisting of exactly two dashes and one space indicates the start of the signature. Nothing else does. -- Eric S Fraga GnuPG: 8F5C 279D 3907 E14A 5C29 570D C891 93D8 FFFC F67D ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Release 7.02
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Dear all, I have release version 7.02 or Org-mode. Thanks to all who have contributed! Enjoy - Carsten Changes in version 7.02 1. Would be nice if Babel specific changes are in a separate headline. 2. Please mention support for Speed Keys on Babel header lines. The entry titled 'Support for user-extensible speed commands' could either be subsumed in to (2) or kept separately. I would personally prefer the later option. Jambunathan K. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Release 7.02
Łukasz Stelmach lukasz.stelm...@iem.pw.edu.pl writes: Thanks to Lukasz Setmann for a patch to this effect. ^^ Who's that guy? ;-) Fixed :) You even obtained a proper Ł in your first name. -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Release 7.02
Hi, Sorry about this oversight, I must have missed it when trolling through the git logs. I've now added an entry on the Babel speed commands. Thanks -- Eric Jambunathan K kjambunat...@gmail.com writes: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Dear all, I have release version 7.02 or Org-mode. Thanks to all who have contributed! Enjoy - Carsten Changes in version 7.02 1. Would be nice if Babel specific changes are in a separate headline. 2. Please mention support for Speed Keys on Babel header lines. The entry titled 'Support for user-extensible speed commands' could either be subsumed in to (2) or kept separately. I would personally prefer the later option. Jambunathan K. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: Release 7.02
On Oct 29, 2010, at 4:02 PM, Jambunathan K wrote: Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: Dear all, I have release version 7.02 or Org-mode. Thanks to all who have contributed! Enjoy - Carsten Changes in version 7.02 1. Would be nice if Babel specific changes are in a separate headline. 2. Please mention support for Speed Keys on Babel header lines. The entry titled 'Support for user-extensible speed commands' could either be subsumed in to (2) or kept separately. I would personally prefer the later option. Please send me a patch! - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: Release 7.02
Hello, Sébastien Vauban writes: Does that mean that we must admit this will stay like that forever, or will one try to look and see if it's possible to make that extension? Nobody said it was impossible. For now, it is unavailable because not satisfying enough. The main difficulty isn't coming from exporters or even to make Org recognize such constructs. It is, as I already said, about user interface. How do you create such lists? How does Org is supposed to react when you ask to indent such lists? I asked others practical questions about it in a previous thread. Did you read them? Do you have some answers? What do you think about Carsten's idea to use - @? Regards, -- Nicolas ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
