Re: [Orgmode] Re: fractional hours for timestamps?
On Aug 13, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Łukasz Stelmach wrote: Bastien bastien.gue...@wikimedia.fr writes: Łukasz Stelmach lukasz.stelm...@iem.pw.edu.pl writes: I think Greg's point is about entering data using only numeric keypad. I can confirm that I have considered these issues (esp. 1400 vs. 14:00). Fractional hours don't seem to be that easy as there are countries like Poland where you use comma as decimal point (working with Emacs' built in calc is a pain) which earns another few lines for parsing code. AFAIC, I won't mess with this part of the code, I think it's quite easy enough to enter 14:00 instead of 1400... Not really in fact if you use keypad. It's not about the number of keystrokes but their layout. Try it. Hi Lukasz, the problem with making the parser more general is that it might start to interpret years as durations and the other way round. You are welcome to submit a patch - but it would have to be a careful one. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: fractional hours for timestamps?
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes: On Aug 13, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Łukasz Stelmach wrote: Bastien bastien.gue...@wikimedia.fr writes: Łukasz Stelmach lukasz.stelm...@iem.pw.edu.pl writes: I think Greg's point is about entering data using only numeric keypad. I can confirm that I have considered these issues (esp. 1400 vs. 14:00). Fractional hours don't seem to be that easy as there are countries like Poland where you use comma as decimal point (working with Emacs' built in calc is a pain) which earns another few lines for parsing code. AFAIC, I won't mess with this part of the code, I think it's quite easy enough to enter 14:00 instead of 1400... Not really in fact if you use keypad. It's not about the number of keystrokes but their layout. Try it. Hi Lukasz, the problem with making the parser more general is that it might start to interpret years as durations and the other way round. You are welcome to submit a patch - but it would have to be a careful one. - Carsten I'm curious if using the decimal point on the numeric keyboard instead of the : colon would be the simplest solution in time durations too ... e.g 14:00+1,30. (add one hour 30 minutes). But knowing how clever the parser is that might step on the shoes of other hidden cleverness I am unaware of. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: fractional hours for timestamps?
Łukasz Stelmach lukasz.stelm...@iem.pw.edu.pl writes: I think Greg's point is about entering data using only numeric keypad. I can confirm that I have considered these issues (esp. 1400 vs. 14:00). Fractional hours don't seem to be that easy as there are countries like Poland where you use comma as decimal point (working with Emacs' built in calc is a pain) which earns another few lines for parsing code. AFAIC, I won't mess with this part of the code, I think it's quite easy enough to enter 14:00 instead of 1400... patch welcome ;) -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: fractional hours for timestamps?
Bastien bastien.gue...@wikimedia.fr writes: Łukasz Stelmach lukasz.stelm...@iem.pw.edu.pl writes: I think Greg's point is about entering data using only numeric keypad. I can confirm that I have considered these issues (esp. 1400 vs. 14:00). Fractional hours don't seem to be that easy as there are countries like Poland where you use comma as decimal point (working with Emacs' built in calc is a pain) which earns another few lines for parsing code. AFAIC, I won't mess with this part of the code, I think it's quite easy enough to enter 14:00 instead of 1400... Not really in fact if you use keypad. It's not about the number of keystrokes but their layout. Try it. patch welcome ;) ASAP ;) -- Miłego dnia, Łukasz Stelmach ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: fractional hours for timestamps?
Bastien bastien.gue...@wikimedia.fr writes: Greg Troxel g...@ir.bbn.com writes: I tried to set a timestamp thu 12:00+1.5, using C-c . and typing the characters in quotes. What I got was 2010-08-12 Thu 12:00-13:00 I found that 12:00+1:30 works fine, but it seems like 1.5 should be parsed. Separately, I'd like 24-hour time without colons to work. thu 1400 seems unambiguous, but just shows up as thursday without a time. I don't know how hard these are or if there are reasons not to, but I thought I'd throw out the idea. It is certainly harder to make Org's parsing capacity even more elastic than to let our brains parse this directly :) 12:00+1.5 looks weird to me and computing 1.5-1:30 is straightforward. Same for 1400-14:00. But maybe other people think otherwise... I think Greg's point is about entering data using only numeric keypad. I can confirm that I have considered these issues (esp. 1400 vs. 14:00). Fractional hours don't seem to be that easy as there are countries like Poland where you use comma as decimal point (working with Emacs' built in calc is a pain) which earns another few lines for parsing code. -- Miłego dnia, Łukasz Stelmach ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
