[Orgmode] Re: latex export - skipping lvls breaks export
At Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:06:08 +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote: > > > On Jun 22, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Robert Hennig wrote: > > > Sebastian Hofer wrote: > >> At Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:51:30 +0200, > >> Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: > >>> Sebastian Hofer writes: > >>> > I'm working on a customized latex-export-class for a CV. > >>> nice! > I noticed that if you skip a level in the outline structure > (cf. example below) it is not exported to latex. > Is there a reason for this > >>> IIRC it depends in how is written the LaTeX export. > >>> (I thought I've read recently this answer by Carsten, but, > >>> unfortunately, > >>> I can't find the citation in the list archive) > >>> > or could this be changed easily? > >>> IMHO skipping a level it's a bit illogical > >>> ;-) > >> I guess it depends on the situation, it may or may not be illogical. > >> Anyway, I don't see a reason why the user should not be allowed to > >> decide himself or herself to skip a level. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Sebastian > >> > > > > I'm working on the translation of a book and the Table of Contents > > has a > > odd structure. I would also appreciate if skipping a level in the > > structure could be possible. One reason to have this working is > > if you want to have a itemized outline at several levels. > > > I have nothing against skipping levels - the HTML exporter > allows it. But, the LaTeX exporter does not. If someone can > come up with a good patch, I'd consider putting it in. The > patch may not be trivial though... > I will try to come up with one, but I'm not sure I can do it as my lisp skills are still quite basic. So if anyone else wants to take a shot at this, I'm thankful for any help! Thanks for the clarification though! Cheers, Sebastian ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: latex export - skipping lvls breaks export
Hi all, Carsten Dominik wrote: > On Jun 22, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Robert Hennig wrote: >> Sebastian Hofer wrote: >>> Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: Sebastian Hofer writes: > > I noticed that if you skip a level in the outline structure (cf. example > below) it is not exported to latex. Is there a reason for this? IIRC it depends in how is written the LaTeX export. IMHO skipping a level it's a bit illogical >>> >>> I guess it depends on the situation, it may or may not be illogical. >> >> I'm working on the translation of a book and the Table of Contents has a >> odd structure. I would also appreciate if skipping a level in the structure >> could be possible. > > I have nothing against skipping levels - the HTML exporter allows it. But, > the LaTeX exporter does not. If someone can come up with a good patch, I'd > consider putting it in. The patch may not be trivial though... Just for the sake of completeness, here is another (very) good reason to allow such a thing: for Beamer, with the sidebar outer theme, which allows you to see, on every slide, where you are in the TOC (up to 2 levels). If you have such a TOC: --8<---cut here---start->8--- 1. Intro 2. The meat 1. Why? 2. Why not? 3. Conclusion --8<---cut here---end--->8--- and have frames level beginning at 3, you would have in Org: --8<---cut here---start->8--- * Intro *** Introduction This is first slide. * The meat ** Why? *** Why to do this? Second slide. ** Why not? *** Why not to do this? Third slide. * Conclusion *** Conclusion Last slide. --8<---cut here---end--->8--- So, the solutions are: 1. To allow for skipped levels -> Sidebar is exactly as it should. 2. Not to export skipped levels -> You need to insert a level-2 for the Introduction and Conclusion a. Empty title (such as `** ') -> Empty space in the TOC displayed in the sidebar -> Bad! b. Repeat the title of level-1 -> Not nice... So, allowing for skipped levels seems the only nice way for me. Did you follow me? Best regards, Seb -- Sébastien Vauban ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: latex export - skipping lvls breaks export
Sebastian Hofer wrote: > At Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:51:30 +0200, > Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: > > > > Sebastian Hofer writes: > > > > > I'm working on a customized latex-export-class for a CV. > > nice! > > > I noticed that if you skip a level in the outline structure > > > (cf. example below) it is not exported to latex. > > > Is there a reason for this > > IIRC it depends in how is written the LaTeX export. > > (I thought I've read recently this answer by Carsten, but, unfortunately, > > I can't find the citation in the list archive) > > > > > or could this be changed easily? > > IMHO skipping a level it's a bit illogical > > ;-) > I guess it depends on the situation, it may or may not be illogical. > Anyway, I don't see a reason why the user should not be allowed to decide > himself or herself to skip a level. > If the outline tree were a real tree, skipping a level would be equivalent to chopping out a node somewhere in the middle. Would you expect the tree to stay intact? Tongue-firmly-in-cheek-ly yours, Nick ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: latex export - skipping lvls breaks export
On Jun 22, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Robert Hennig wrote: Sebastian Hofer wrote: At Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:51:30 +0200, Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: Sebastian Hofer writes: I'm working on a customized latex-export-class for a CV. nice! I noticed that if you skip a level in the outline structure (cf. example below) it is not exported to latex. Is there a reason for this IIRC it depends in how is written the LaTeX export. (I thought I've read recently this answer by Carsten, but, unfortunately, I can't find the citation in the list archive) or could this be changed easily? IMHO skipping a level it's a bit illogical ;-) I guess it depends on the situation, it may or may not be illogical. Anyway, I don't see a reason why the user should not be allowed to decide himself or herself to skip a level. Cheers, Sebastian I'm working on the translation of a book and the Table of Contents has a odd structure. I would also appreciate if skipping a level in the structure could be possible. One reason to have this working is if you want to have a itemized outline at several levels. I have nothing against skipping levels - the HTML exporter allows it. But, the LaTeX exporter does not. If someone can come up with a good patch, I'd consider putting it in. The patch may not be trivial though... - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: latex export - skipping lvls breaks export
Sebastian Hofer wrote: > At Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:51:30 +0200, > Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: >> Sebastian Hofer writes: >> >>> I'm working on a customized latex-export-class for a CV. >> nice! >>> I noticed that if you skip a level in the outline structure >>> (cf. example below) it is not exported to latex. >>> Is there a reason for this >> IIRC it depends in how is written the LaTeX export. >> (I thought I've read recently this answer by Carsten, but, unfortunately, >> I can't find the citation in the list archive) >> >>> or could this be changed easily? >> IMHO skipping a level it's a bit illogical >> ;-) > I guess it depends on the situation, it may or may not be illogical. > Anyway, I don't see a reason why the user should not be allowed to decide > himself or herself to skip a level. > > Cheers, > Sebastian > I'm working on the translation of a book and the Table of Contents has a odd structure. I would also appreciate if skipping a level in the structure could be possible. One reason to have this working is if you want to have a itemized outline at several levels. Best regards, Robert Hennig > > > > ___ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: latex export - skipping lvls breaks export
At Tue, 22 Jun 2010 11:51:30 +0200, Giovanni Ridolfi wrote: > > Sebastian Hofer writes: > > > I'm working on a customized latex-export-class for a CV. > nice! > > I noticed that if you skip a level in the outline structure > > (cf. example below) it is not exported to latex. > > Is there a reason for this > IIRC it depends in how is written the LaTeX export. > (I thought I've read recently this answer by Carsten, but, unfortunately, > I can't find the citation in the list archive) > > > or could this be changed easily? > IMHO skipping a level it's a bit illogical > ;-) I guess it depends on the situation, it may or may not be illogical. Anyway, I don't see a reason why the user should not be allowed to decide himself or herself to skip a level. Cheers, Sebastian ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
