Re: [Orgmode] Re: org-beamer bug
On Mar 25, 2010, at 9:00 PM, Jason Dunsmore wrote: Thanks for the explanation. The documentation is confusing. If this property is set, the entry will also get a `:B_environment:' tag to make this visible. This tag has no semantic meaning, it is only a visual aid. I thought there was actually a `:B_environment:' tag. I also didn't know that this was referring to auto-selecting the tag when using the PROPERTIES selection interface (C-c C-c inside a PROPERTIES drawer). For that part of the documentation, I would suggest: ``If this property is set using C-c C-c inside the properties drawer, the entry will also get an environment tag (eg. :B_block:) to make this visible. This tag has no semantic meaning, it is only a visual aid.'' The org-beamer-set-environment-tag docstring states: ``Set an environment tag, to determine the beamer environment to be used. This makes use of the fast tag selection interface.'' But it doesn't determine the beamer environment to be used. I would suggest instead: ``Set a beamer environment tag using the fast tag selection interface. This is only a visual aid to indicate the beamer environment configured in the :BEAMER_env: property.'' What is the point of having an interface to select the beamer environment tags (C-c C-b) if they are auto-generated? Hi Jason, the documentation is indeed not very clear on this, also because the background is confusing: 1. Only the property counts, the tag is visual and has no semantic meaning 2. I am using a property because all the other beamer stuff is also properties 3. To make selecting the correct environment very convenient and fast, I am using a special version of the tag interface which will change both the tag and the property value. I'll see if I can make the documentation clearer here. In fact, even the function name org-beamer-set-environment-tag is bad, and I have just changed it to org-beamer-select-environment'. While this does improve the documentation, I still think that more extensive documentation, examples and tutorial for the beamer support would be very good to have on Worg, and I have not lost hope that someone will pick up this task. Also, the example from http://orgmode.org/manual/Beamer-class-export.html shows a :B_block: tag in use without the :BEAMER_env: property. --8---cut here---start-8--- *** Request :B_block: Please test this stuff! --8---cut here---end---8--- This should be: --8---cut here---start-8--- *** Request :B_block: :PROPERTIES: :BEAMER_env: block :END: Please test this stuff! --8---cut here---end---8--- Indeed, thanks for catching this documentation bug. Did org-beamer previously support configuring beamer environments via tags? Yes, for a short time If so, why was it removed? It seems like a nice feature. Because we added much more functionality, all of which was using properties. Regards - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: org-beamer bug
Hi Jason, Jason Dunsmore jason.pub...@gmail.com writes: From reading the org-beamer documentation, I get the impression that the following two should headings should be equivalent: * Example 1 :B_block: * Example 2 :PROPERTIES: :BEAMER_env: block :END: However, only the second example is actually exported with a block environment. This also happens with other environments. The note environment is the only one I tested that works by using a tag. According to the manual, the environment tags have no effect on the export. They are simply visual aids. If org-beamer-mode is activated, the tags are added automatically whenever you set the :BEAMER_env: property. , | `BEAMER_env' | The environment that should be used to format this entry. Valid | environments are defined in the constant | `org-beamer-environments-default', and you can define more in | `org-beamer-environments-extra'. If this property is set, the | entry will also get a `:B_environment:' tag to make this visible. | This tag has no semantic meaning, it is only a visual aid. ` Best, Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Re: org-beamer bug
Thanks for the explanation. The documentation is confusing. If this property is set, the entry will also get a `:B_environment:' tag to make this visible. This tag has no semantic meaning, it is only a visual aid. I thought there was actually a `:B_environment:' tag. I also didn't know that this was referring to auto-selecting the tag when using the PROPERTIES selection interface (C-c C-c inside a PROPERTIES drawer). For that part of the documentation, I would suggest: ``If this property is set using C-c C-c inside the properties drawer, the entry will also get an environment tag (eg. :B_block:) to make this visible. This tag has no semantic meaning, it is only a visual aid.'' The org-beamer-set-environment-tag docstring states: ``Set an environment tag, to determine the beamer environment to be used. This makes use of the fast tag selection interface.'' But it doesn't determine the beamer environment to be used. I would suggest instead: ``Set a beamer environment tag using the fast tag selection interface. This is only a visual aid to indicate the beamer environment configured in the :BEAMER_env: property.'' What is the point of having an interface to select the beamer environment tags (C-c C-b) if they are auto-generated? Also, the example from http://orgmode.org/manual/Beamer-class-export.html shows a :B_block: tag in use without the :BEAMER_env: property. --8---cut here---start-8--- *** Request :B_block: Please test this stuff! --8---cut here---end---8--- This should be: --8---cut here---start-8--- *** Request :B_block: :PROPERTIES: :BEAMER_env: block :END: Please test this stuff! --8---cut here---end---8--- Did org-beamer previously support configuring beamer environments via tags? If so, why was it removed? It seems like a nice feature. Regards, Jason ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
