R: [Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage

2009-01-08 Thread Giovanni Ridolfi
--- Mer 7/1/09, Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com ha scritto:
 Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that
 works.

On 8th January 2008 at 10:01 CET
with IE 7.057???
XP SP??

The page is displayed correctly. (like http://imagebin.org/35260)

Cheers,
Giovanni






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[Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage

2009-01-07 Thread Manish
Hello Carsten,

The image at http://imagebin.org/35260 shows the Orgmode homepage in
IE6 and http://imagebin.org/35261 shows the the same page in FF3.  The
page in IE (6) is jumbled up (table of contents mixed up with page
contents) since it (IE6) does not support position: fixed used in
the org.css.  I faced the same issue when I gave some org-generated
HTML documentation to someone using IE yesterday.  So I got some help
from a friend and worked out a compromise so that it doesn't break so
horribly in IE6.

What I did was to create another small CSS file, org-ie6, css, with following
contents:

  : #table-of-contents{
  : position: absolute;
  : float: left;
  : }
  :
  : body {
  :  background-attachment: scroll;
  : }

And load this CSS conditionally when IE 6 is being used by adding
following line in the generated HTML file's header just above the
body tag:

  : !--[if lt IE 7]link rel=stylesheet href=org-ie6.css
type=text/css ![endif]--

(previous line may wrap)

The compromise is that the table of contents in the sidebar (along
with the background image) scrolls up with the page unlike in FF,
which IMHO, is an acceptable compromise.  I have been told that some
javascript magic can make IE6 behave like position: fixed but I
haven't yet worked out how/if that can be done.

Possibly a better workaround/solution exists for this else please
consider making similar change to the Orgmode home page.

Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works.

Regards,
-- 
Manish


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Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage

2009-01-07 Thread Sebastian Rose

This is what I use in such cases. All styles starting with '*' are read
by IE only. No compromise should be neccessary.




@media screen {

  /* ... all your styles here ... */

  #table-of-contents
  {
position:fixed;
width:198px;
  }

  * html { overflow-y: hidden; }

  * html body {
overflow-y: auto;
height: 100%;
padding: 0 0 0 0;
font-size: 100%;
  }

  * html div#table-of-contents { position: absolute; }
}






Regards,

Sebastian



Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes:
 Hello Carsten,

 The image at http://imagebin.org/35260 shows the Orgmode homepage in
 IE6 and http://imagebin.org/35261 shows the the same page in FF3.  The
 page in IE (6) is jumbled up (table of contents mixed up with page
 contents) since it (IE6) does not support position: fixed used in
 the org.css.  I faced the same issue when I gave some org-generated
 HTML documentation to someone using IE yesterday.  So I got some help
 from a friend and worked out a compromise so that it doesn't break so
 horribly in IE6.

 What I did was to create another small CSS file, org-ie6, css, with following
 contents:

   : #table-of-contents{
   : position: absolute;
   : float: left;
   : }
   :
   : body {
   :  background-attachment: scroll;
   : }

 And load this CSS conditionally when IE 6 is being used by adding
 following line in the generated HTML file's header just above the
 body tag:

   : !--[if lt IE 7]link rel=stylesheet href=org-ie6.css
 type=text/css ![endif]--

 (previous line may wrap)

 The compromise is that the table of contents in the sidebar (along
 with the background image) scrolls up with the page unlike in FF,
 which IMHO, is an acceptable compromise.  I have been told that some
 javascript magic can make IE6 behave like position: fixed but I
 haven't yet worked out how/if that can be done.

 Possibly a better workaround/solution exists for this else please
 consider making similar change to the Orgmode home page.

 Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works.

 Regards,

-- 
Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover
Tel.:  +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472
Fax:   +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044
mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417
Email: s.r...@emma-stil.de, sebastian_r...@gmx.de
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Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage

2009-01-07 Thread Matthew Lundin

Hi Manish,

Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes:

 Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works.


Either of these sites are nice for seeing what pages look like on
various versions of IE.

http://browsershots.org/

http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/

- Matt


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Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage

2009-01-07 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi Sebastian,

would you like to make things easy for me and make me a new version of  
org.css which will work also on IE, and send it to me


Thanks!

- Carsten

On Jan 7, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote:



This is what I use in such cases. All styles starting with '*' are  
read

by IE only. No compromise should be neccessary.




@media screen {

 /* ... all your styles here ... */

 #table-of-contents
 {
   position:fixed;
   width:198px;
 }

 * html { overflow-y: hidden; }

 * html body {
   overflow-y: auto;
   height: 100%;
   padding: 0 0 0 0;
   font-size: 100%;
 }

 * html div#table-of-contents { position: absolute; }
}






Regards,

   Sebastian



Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes:

Hello Carsten,

The image at http://imagebin.org/35260 shows the Orgmode homepage in
IE6 and http://imagebin.org/35261 shows the the same page in FF3.   
The

page in IE (6) is jumbled up (table of contents mixed up with page
contents) since it (IE6) does not support position: fixed used in
the org.css.  I faced the same issue when I gave some org-generated
HTML documentation to someone using IE yesterday.  So I got some help
from a friend and worked out a compromise so that it doesn't break so
horribly in IE6.

What I did was to create another small CSS file, org-ie6, css, with  
following

contents:

 : #table-of-contents{
 : position: absolute;
 : float: left;
 : }
 :
 : body {
 :  background-attachment: scroll;
 : }

And load this CSS conditionally when IE 6 is being used by adding
following line in the generated HTML file's header just above the
body tag:

 : !--[if lt IE 7]link rel=stylesheet href=org-ie6.css
type=text/css ![endif]--

(previous line may wrap)

The compromise is that the table of contents in the sidebar (along
with the background image) scrolls up with the page unlike in FF,
which IMHO, is an acceptable compromise.  I have been told that some
javascript magic can make IE6 behave like position: fixed but I
haven't yet worked out how/if that can be done.

Possibly a better workaround/solution exists for this else please
consider making similar change to the Orgmode home page.

Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works.

Regards,


--
Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449  
Hannover

Tel.:  +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472
Fax:   +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044
mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417
Email: s.r...@emma-stil.de, sebastian_r...@gmx.de
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Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage

2009-01-07 Thread Sebastian Rose
Hi Manish,

just make the #table-of-contents limited to a certain height. 100%
should work if nothing else is higher than the visible area in the
browser. If it doesn't, use a pixel value.

 @media screen {

 /* ... all your styles here ... */

 #table-of-contents
 {
  position:fixed;
  width:198px;
  /* add this for the height: */
  height:100%;
  overflow:auto;
 }

 * html { overflow-y: hidden; }

 * html body {
  overflow-y: auto;
  height: 100%;
  padding: 0 0 0 0;
  font-size: 100%;
 }

 * html div#table-of-contents { position: absolute; }
 }


Regards,

   Sebastian

Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes:
Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes:
Hello Carsten,
   
The image at http://imagebin.org/35260 shows the Orgmode homepage in
IE6 and http://imagebin.org/35261 shows the the same page in FF3. The
page in IE (6) is jumbled up (table of contents mixed up with page
contents) since it (IE6) does not support position: fixed used in
the org.css. I faced the same issue when I gave some org-generated
HTML documentation to someone using IE yesterday. So I got some help
from a friend and worked out a compromise so that it doesn't break so
horribly in IE6.
   
What I did was to create another small CSS file, org-ie6, css,
 with following
contents:
   
 : #table-of-contents{
 :   position: absolute;
 :   float: left;
 : }
 :
 : body {
 : background-attachment: scroll;
 : }
   
And load this CSS conditionally when IE 6 is being used by adding
following line in the generated HTML file's header just above the
body tag:
   
 : !--[if lt IE 7]link rel=stylesheet href=org-ie6.css
type=text/css ![endif]--
   
(previous line may wrap)
   
The compromise is that the table of contents in the sidebar (along
with the background image) scrolls up with the page unlike in FF,
which IMHO, is an acceptable compromise. I have been told that some
javascript magic can make IE6 behave like position: fixed but I
haven't yet worked out how/if that can be done.
   
Possibly a better workaround/solution exists for this else please
consider making similar change to the Orgmode home page.
   
Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works.

 On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Sebastian Rose wrote:

 This is what I use in such cases. All styles starting with '*' are read
 by IE only. No compromise should be neccessary.




 @media screen {

 /* ... all your styles here ... */

 #table-of-contents
 {
  position:fixed;
  width:198px;
 }

 * html { overflow-y: hidden; }

 * html body {
  overflow-y: auto;
  height: 100%;
  padding: 0 0 0 0;
  font-size: 100%;
 }

 * html div#table-of-contents { position: absolute; }
 }

 This is a much better solution.  I have an on/off-topic question
 though, if you do not mind.  In case the TOC contents are more than
 what fits on the page what do I add to css (or may be to #+OPTIONS
 line?) to bring up a scroll bar like in
 http://orgmode.org/Changes.html?

 Regards,

-- 
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Tel.:  +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472
Fax:   +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044
mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417
Email: s.r...@emma-stil.de, sebastian_r...@gmx.de
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Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage

2009-01-07 Thread Sebastian Rose
Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl writes:
 Hi Sebastian,

 would you like to make things easy for me and make me a new version of org.css
 which will work also on IE, and send it to me


Yes, I'll give it a shot this evening.


Best,

   Sebastian




 Thanks!

 - Carsten

 On Jan 7, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote:


 This is what I use in such cases. All styles starting with '*' are read
 by IE only. No compromise should be neccessary.




 @media screen {

  /* ... all your styles here ... */

  #table-of-contents
  {
position:fixed;
width:198px;
  }

  * html { overflow-y: hidden; }

  * html body {
overflow-y: auto;
height: 100%;
padding: 0 0 0 0;
font-size: 100%;
  }

  * html div#table-of-contents { position: absolute; }
 }






 Regards,

Sebastian



 Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes:
 Hello Carsten,

 The image at http://imagebin.org/35260 shows the Orgmode homepage in
 IE6 and http://imagebin.org/35261 shows the the same page in FF3.  The
 page in IE (6) is jumbled up (table of contents mixed up with page
 contents) since it (IE6) does not support position: fixed used in
 the org.css.  I faced the same issue when I gave some org-generated
 HTML documentation to someone using IE yesterday.  So I got some help
 from a friend and worked out a compromise so that it doesn't break so
 horribly in IE6.

 What I did was to create another small CSS file, org-ie6, css, with 
 following
 contents:

  : #table-of-contents{
  : position: absolute;
  : float: left;
  : }
  :
  : body {
  :  background-attachment: scroll;
  : }

 And load this CSS conditionally when IE 6 is being used by adding
 following line in the generated HTML file's header just above the
 body tag:

  : !--[if lt IE 7]link rel=stylesheet href=org-ie6.css
 type=text/css ![endif]--

 (previous line may wrap)

 The compromise is that the table of contents in the sidebar (along
 with the background image) scrolls up with the page unlike in FF,
 which IMHO, is an acceptable compromise.  I have been told that some
 javascript magic can make IE6 behave like position: fixed but I
 haven't yet worked out how/if that can be done.

 Possibly a better workaround/solution exists for this else please
 consider making similar change to the Orgmode home page.

 Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works.

 Regards,

 --
 Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover
 Tel.:  +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472
 Fax:   +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044
 mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417
 Email: s.r...@emma-stil.de, sebastian_r...@gmx.de
 Http:  www.emma-stil.de


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Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage

2009-01-07 Thread Samuel Wales
A reminder about accessibility.

With changes to code that creates web pages, remember to try
increasing the font size to very large and looking at all parts of the
page.

Try fonts large enough that the maximized browser can only display 60
characters or so.

Quite often, text overlaps itself vertically or horizontally.  Quite
often it also runs past the right margin of the window, or the right
or bottom edge of parts of the page.  When that happens, the page is
often unusable.

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Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage

2009-01-07 Thread Manish
That works!  Thank you Sebastian.

-- 
Manish

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi Manish,

 just make the #table-of-contents limited to a certain height. 100%
 should work if nothing else is higher than the visible area in the
 browser. If it doesn't, use a pixel value.

 @media screen {

 /* ... all your styles here ... */

 #table-of-contents
 {
 position:fixed;
 width:198px;
 /* add this for the height: */
 height:100%;
 overflow:auto;
 }

 * html { overflow-y: hidden; }

 * html body {
 overflow-y: auto;
 height: 100%;
 padding: 0 0 0 0;
 font-size: 100%;
 }

 * html div#table-of-contents { position: absolute; }
 }


 Regards,

  Sebastian


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Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage

2009-01-07 Thread Manish
Both are wonderful resources.  Thanks for sharing.

-- 
Manish

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Matthew Lundin wrote:

 Hi Manish,

 Manish writes:

 Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works.


 Either of these sites are nice for seeing what pages look like on
 various versions of IE.

 http://browsershots.org/

 http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/

 - Matt



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