R: [Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
--- Mer 7/1/09, Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com ha scritto: Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works. On 8th January 2008 at 10:01 CET with IE 7.057??? XP SP?? The page is displayed correctly. (like http://imagebin.org/35260) Cheers, Giovanni ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
Hello Carsten, The image at http://imagebin.org/35260 shows the Orgmode homepage in IE6 and http://imagebin.org/35261 shows the the same page in FF3. The page in IE (6) is jumbled up (table of contents mixed up with page contents) since it (IE6) does not support position: fixed used in the org.css. I faced the same issue when I gave some org-generated HTML documentation to someone using IE yesterday. So I got some help from a friend and worked out a compromise so that it doesn't break so horribly in IE6. What I did was to create another small CSS file, org-ie6, css, with following contents: : #table-of-contents{ : position: absolute; : float: left; : } : : body { : background-attachment: scroll; : } And load this CSS conditionally when IE 6 is being used by adding following line in the generated HTML file's header just above the body tag: : !--[if lt IE 7]link rel=stylesheet href=org-ie6.css type=text/css ![endif]-- (previous line may wrap) The compromise is that the table of contents in the sidebar (along with the background image) scrolls up with the page unlike in FF, which IMHO, is an acceptable compromise. I have been told that some javascript magic can make IE6 behave like position: fixed but I haven't yet worked out how/if that can be done. Possibly a better workaround/solution exists for this else please consider making similar change to the Orgmode home page. Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works. Regards, -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
This is what I use in such cases. All styles starting with '*' are read by IE only. No compromise should be neccessary. @media screen { /* ... all your styles here ... */ #table-of-contents { position:fixed; width:198px; } * html { overflow-y: hidden; } * html body { overflow-y: auto; height: 100%; padding: 0 0 0 0; font-size: 100%; } * html div#table-of-contents { position: absolute; } } Regards, Sebastian Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes: Hello Carsten, The image at http://imagebin.org/35260 shows the Orgmode homepage in IE6 and http://imagebin.org/35261 shows the the same page in FF3. The page in IE (6) is jumbled up (table of contents mixed up with page contents) since it (IE6) does not support position: fixed used in the org.css. I faced the same issue when I gave some org-generated HTML documentation to someone using IE yesterday. So I got some help from a friend and worked out a compromise so that it doesn't break so horribly in IE6. What I did was to create another small CSS file, org-ie6, css, with following contents: : #table-of-contents{ : position: absolute; : float: left; : } : : body { : background-attachment: scroll; : } And load this CSS conditionally when IE 6 is being used by adding following line in the generated HTML file's header just above the body tag: : !--[if lt IE 7]link rel=stylesheet href=org-ie6.css type=text/css ![endif]-- (previous line may wrap) The compromise is that the table of contents in the sidebar (along with the background image) scrolls up with the page unlike in FF, which IMHO, is an acceptable compromise. I have been told that some javascript magic can make IE6 behave like position: fixed but I haven't yet worked out how/if that can be done. Possibly a better workaround/solution exists for this else please consider making similar change to the Orgmode home page. Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works. Regards, -- Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover Tel.: +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472 Fax: +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044 mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417 Email: s.r...@emma-stil.de, sebastian_r...@gmx.de Http: www.emma-stil.de ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
Hi Manish, Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes: Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works. Either of these sites are nice for seeing what pages look like on various versions of IE. http://browsershots.org/ http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/ - Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
Hi Sebastian, would you like to make things easy for me and make me a new version of org.css which will work also on IE, and send it to me Thanks! - Carsten On Jan 7, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote: This is what I use in such cases. All styles starting with '*' are read by IE only. No compromise should be neccessary. @media screen { /* ... all your styles here ... */ #table-of-contents { position:fixed; width:198px; } * html { overflow-y: hidden; } * html body { overflow-y: auto; height: 100%; padding: 0 0 0 0; font-size: 100%; } * html div#table-of-contents { position: absolute; } } Regards, Sebastian Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes: Hello Carsten, The image at http://imagebin.org/35260 shows the Orgmode homepage in IE6 and http://imagebin.org/35261 shows the the same page in FF3. The page in IE (6) is jumbled up (table of contents mixed up with page contents) since it (IE6) does not support position: fixed used in the org.css. I faced the same issue when I gave some org-generated HTML documentation to someone using IE yesterday. So I got some help from a friend and worked out a compromise so that it doesn't break so horribly in IE6. What I did was to create another small CSS file, org-ie6, css, with following contents: : #table-of-contents{ : position: absolute; : float: left; : } : : body { : background-attachment: scroll; : } And load this CSS conditionally when IE 6 is being used by adding following line in the generated HTML file's header just above the body tag: : !--[if lt IE 7]link rel=stylesheet href=org-ie6.css type=text/css ![endif]-- (previous line may wrap) The compromise is that the table of contents in the sidebar (along with the background image) scrolls up with the page unlike in FF, which IMHO, is an acceptable compromise. I have been told that some javascript magic can make IE6 behave like position: fixed but I haven't yet worked out how/if that can be done. Possibly a better workaround/solution exists for this else please consider making similar change to the Orgmode home page. Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works. Regards, -- Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover Tel.: +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472 Fax: +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044 mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417 Email: s.r...@emma-stil.de, sebastian_r...@gmx.de Http: www.emma-stil.de ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
Hi Manish, just make the #table-of-contents limited to a certain height. 100% should work if nothing else is higher than the visible area in the browser. If it doesn't, use a pixel value. @media screen { /* ... all your styles here ... */ #table-of-contents { position:fixed; width:198px; /* add this for the height: */ height:100%; overflow:auto; } * html { overflow-y: hidden; } * html body { overflow-y: auto; height: 100%; padding: 0 0 0 0; font-size: 100%; } * html div#table-of-contents { position: absolute; } } Regards, Sebastian Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes: Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes: Hello Carsten, The image at http://imagebin.org/35260 shows the Orgmode homepage in IE6 and http://imagebin.org/35261 shows the the same page in FF3. The page in IE (6) is jumbled up (table of contents mixed up with page contents) since it (IE6) does not support position: fixed used in the org.css. I faced the same issue when I gave some org-generated HTML documentation to someone using IE yesterday. So I got some help from a friend and worked out a compromise so that it doesn't break so horribly in IE6. What I did was to create another small CSS file, org-ie6, css, with following contents: : #table-of-contents{ : position: absolute; : float: left; : } : : body { : background-attachment: scroll; : } And load this CSS conditionally when IE 6 is being used by adding following line in the generated HTML file's header just above the body tag: : !--[if lt IE 7]link rel=stylesheet href=org-ie6.css type=text/css ![endif]-- (previous line may wrap) The compromise is that the table of contents in the sidebar (along with the background image) scrolls up with the page unlike in FF, which IMHO, is an acceptable compromise. I have been told that some javascript magic can make IE6 behave like position: fixed but I haven't yet worked out how/if that can be done. Possibly a better workaround/solution exists for this else please consider making similar change to the Orgmode home page. Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works. On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Sebastian Rose wrote: This is what I use in such cases. All styles starting with '*' are read by IE only. No compromise should be neccessary. @media screen { /* ... all your styles here ... */ #table-of-contents { position:fixed; width:198px; } * html { overflow-y: hidden; } * html body { overflow-y: auto; height: 100%; padding: 0 0 0 0; font-size: 100%; } * html div#table-of-contents { position: absolute; } } This is a much better solution. I have an on/off-topic question though, if you do not mind. In case the TOC contents are more than what fits on the page what do I add to css (or may be to #+OPTIONS line?) to bring up a scroll bar like in http://orgmode.org/Changes.html? Regards, -- Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover Tel.: +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472 Fax: +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044 mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417 Email: s.r...@emma-stil.de, sebastian_r...@gmx.de Http: www.emma-stil.de ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl writes: Hi Sebastian, would you like to make things easy for me and make me a new version of org.css which will work also on IE, and send it to me Yes, I'll give it a shot this evening. Best, Sebastian Thanks! - Carsten On Jan 7, 2009, at 8:45 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote: This is what I use in such cases. All styles starting with '*' are read by IE only. No compromise should be neccessary. @media screen { /* ... all your styles here ... */ #table-of-contents { position:fixed; width:198px; } * html { overflow-y: hidden; } * html body { overflow-y: auto; height: 100%; padding: 0 0 0 0; font-size: 100%; } * html div#table-of-contents { position: absolute; } } Regards, Sebastian Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes: Hello Carsten, The image at http://imagebin.org/35260 shows the Orgmode homepage in IE6 and http://imagebin.org/35261 shows the the same page in FF3. The page in IE (6) is jumbled up (table of contents mixed up with page contents) since it (IE6) does not support position: fixed used in the org.css. I faced the same issue when I gave some org-generated HTML documentation to someone using IE yesterday. So I got some help from a friend and worked out a compromise so that it doesn't break so horribly in IE6. What I did was to create another small CSS file, org-ie6, css, with following contents: : #table-of-contents{ : position: absolute; : float: left; : } : : body { : background-attachment: scroll; : } And load this CSS conditionally when IE 6 is being used by adding following line in the generated HTML file's header just above the body tag: : !--[if lt IE 7]link rel=stylesheet href=org-ie6.css type=text/css ![endif]-- (previous line may wrap) The compromise is that the table of contents in the sidebar (along with the background image) scrolls up with the page unlike in FF, which IMHO, is an acceptable compromise. I have been told that some javascript magic can make IE6 behave like position: fixed but I haven't yet worked out how/if that can be done. Possibly a better workaround/solution exists for this else please consider making similar change to the Orgmode home page. Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works. Regards, -- Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover Tel.: +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472 Fax: +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044 mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417 Email: s.r...@emma-stil.de, sebastian_r...@gmx.de Http: www.emma-stil.de ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- Sebastian Rose, EMMA STIL - mediendesign, Niemeyerstr.6, 30449 Hannover Tel.: +49 (0)511 - 36 58 472 Fax: +49 (0)1805 - 233633 - 11044 mobil: +49 (0)173 - 83 93 417 Email: s.r...@emma-stil.de, sebastian_r...@gmx.de Http: www.emma-stil.de ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
A reminder about accessibility. With changes to code that creates web pages, remember to try increasing the font size to very large and looking at all parts of the page. Try fonts large enough that the maximized browser can only display 60 characters or so. Quite often, text overlaps itself vertically or horizontally. Quite often it also runs past the right margin of the window, or the right or bottom edge of parts of the page. When that happens, the page is often unusable. -- For personal gain, myalgic encephalomyelitis denialists are knowingly causing further suffering and death by grossly corrupting science. Do you care about the world? http://www.meactionuk.org.uk/What_Is_ME_What_Is_CFS.htm ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
That works! Thank you Sebastian. -- Manish On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Manish, just make the #table-of-contents limited to a certain height. 100% should work if nothing else is higher than the visible area in the browser. If it doesn't, use a pixel value. @media screen { /* ... all your styles here ... */ #table-of-contents { position:fixed; width:198px; /* add this for the height: */ height:100%; overflow:auto; } * html { overflow-y: hidden; } * html body { overflow-y: auto; height: 100%; padding: 0 0 0 0; font-size: 100%; } * html div#table-of-contents { position: absolute; } } Regards, Sebastian ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions for Orgmode.org homepage
Both are wonderful resources. Thanks for sharing. -- Manish On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Matthew Lundin wrote: Hi Manish, Manish writes: Also, I do not have access to IE7 so I do not know if that works. Either of these sites are nice for seeing what pages look like on various versions of IE. http://browsershots.org/ http://ipinfo.info/netrenderer/ - Matt ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode