Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions needed for handling ideas

2010-04-26 Thread Ali Tofigh
Hi John,

On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 03:46, John Wiegley jwieg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Frequently my notes on meetings contain ideas for stuff to try. Does
 anyone have any advice on how to handle these?

 For ideas I just use a done TODO state called NOTE.  I have the key M-z 
 bound to create one and switch me to the Org-buffer, so that I can stay there 
 and keep typing.

Thanks for the suggestion. I've tried both checkboxes and TODO items
to keep track of my ideas, but your idea of using a done state seems
very neat. I'll give it a go.

What really feels unsatisfactory to me is that only headlines can be
TODO items. I want to be able to insert TODO items in the middle of a
section. I've looked at the inline-tasks add-on, but that doesn't
really do it for me... Anyway, I understand that the way org-mode is
implemented right now, it would be very impractical to try to add
non-headline TODO-items. In any case, org has simplified my life, even
before I've optmized the way I use it. It's great!

Cheers,
/Ali


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Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions needed for handling ideas

2010-04-26 Thread Nathan Neff
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 2:46 AM, John Wiegley jwieg...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Apr 12, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ali Tofigh wrote:

  Frequently my notes on meetings contain ideas for stuff to try. Does
  anyone have any advice on how to handle these?

 Hi Ali,

 For ideas I just use a done TODO state called NOTE.  I have the key M-z
 bound to create one and switch me to the Org-buffer, so that I can stay
 there and keep typing.


Same here -- I just use the SOMEDAY todo state for both ideas and things
that I really want to do someday.

Previously, I would use a separate IDEA and SOMEDAY states, but the two
concepts are similar enough that I combined them.

--Nate


 John

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Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions needed for handling ideas

2010-04-25 Thread John Wiegley
On Apr 12, 2010, at 3:46 PM, Ali Tofigh wrote:

 Frequently my notes on meetings contain ideas for stuff to try. Does
 anyone have any advice on how to handle these?

Hi Ali,

For ideas I just use a done TODO state called NOTE.  I have the key M-z bound 
to create one and switch me to the Org-buffer, so that I can stay there and 
keep typing.

John

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Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions needed for handling ideas

2010-04-13 Thread Ali Tofigh
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 16:38, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com wrote:
 Frequently my notes on meetings contain ideas for stuff to try. Does
 anyone have any advice on how to handle these?

 I'm very 'idea' centered as well. See some 'ideas' below :)

;-)

 What about:

 ### IDEA 1 ###
 --- file: project_name.org ---
 * Journals
 ** Title date
 Notes about stuff

 * Ideas
 ** TODO idea 1 date
 ** WORKING idea 2
 ** DONE idea 3 date

 Something like this? This could track ideas in each project and if you do
 use them as TODOs you can pull them up with agenda to check ideas across all
 projects.

What I would like is to keep my ideas in their context and not
separately. Ideally I just want to write my meeting notes as usual but
be able to somehow mark certain sections as ideas to come back to
later. I keep my real todos, the ones I want to work on, separately as
you suggest.

 ### IDEA 2 ###
 - a remember template for ideas?
 - file keystrokes set to set the file to a particular project's file with a
 simple key entry?
 - or... one file called 'ideas.org' divided by projects (or just tag idea
 headlines with the project name)
 --- then use remember-mode to add ideas to that file when you're in
 meetings/taking notes in a different, dedicated project file?

Same as above...

I really really would like some feature to be able to highlight some
part of my text (or even better a list item) as an idea. This way my
ideas could be interspersed in the level I'm in. It doesn't seem
logical to me to create a new heading for each idea in the middle of
my notes.

=== project1.org ===
* journal
** meeting 1
   notes...

   - idea 1 :idea:
   - idea 2 :idea:

   notes contd... (this is same level still as notes above under
heading meeting 1)

* tasks
** todo1
*** subtask1
** todo2

 I'm so new I can hardly believe I'm proposing these ideas as I don't even
 know that I know everything necessary to implement them! But... these are
 things i ponder so I thought I'd share...

I appreciate it. It's fun to share ideas!

/Ali


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[Orgmode] Suggestions needed for handling ideas

2010-04-12 Thread Ali Tofigh
Hello everyone,

I'm a new user of org-mode, and seeing the great potential, I am
trying to switch to org-mode for handling my day-to-day tasks. I'm
going to start off by using org-mode to handle my projects and I need
some advice.

I like to keep my projects self-contained. Therefore I use one
org-file for each project. Each org-file contains two main headlines:
journal and tasks. Under journal I collect all kinds of information:
meeting notes, relevant stuff I've read, urls, etc. I also write down
what I have done every few days. The journal entries are sorted
chornologically. Under tasks I keep all todo items.

Frequently my notes on meetings contain ideas for stuff to try. Does
anyone have any advice on how to handle these?

I don't want to keep them as todo items in the journal since I like to
keep changing the todos (e.g., dividing them into subtasks) and I
don't want those changes to appear in the journal. My initial thought
was to create one headline for each idea and tag it with :idea:. I
could then easily go through all ideas in a project and choose the
ones I want to work on by creating todo items. Those ideas would then
be further tagged with :handled: or something similar. This way I
could search for unhandled ideas in my projects. As an alternative I
could use separate todo keywords for todos and ideas.

Any specific advice or just general thoughts are most appreciated.

Cheers,
/Ali


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Re: [Orgmode] Suggestions needed for handling ideas

2010-04-12 Thread John Hendy
On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:46 PM, Ali Tofigh alix.tof...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello everyone,

 I'm a new user of org-mode, and seeing the great potential, I am
 trying to switch to org-mode for handling my day-to-day tasks. I'm
 going to start off by using org-mode to handle my projects and I need
 some advice.


I'm new to this as well and started in a very similar way:
- begin with just notes
- ramp up to todo tracking
- continue to ramp up to scheduling/full-fledged work data capture system


 I like to keep my projects self-contained. Therefore I use one
 org-file for each project. Each org-file contains two main headlines:
 journal and tasks. Under journal I collect all kinds of information:
 meeting notes, relevant stuff I've read, urls, etc. I also write down
 what I have done every few days. The journal entries are sorted
 chornologically. Under tasks I keep all todo items.


I started with separate, then went to all-in-one file, and think I'm going
back to one-per, mainly because of issues with being too deep in an outline
already by having one file; in other words, I blow a headline with project
name, then another with either 'journals' or 'todos', etc., and only then am
I in day-to-day notes...

Anyway, your setup sounds similar to what I'm leaning toward as well.


 Frequently my notes on meetings contain ideas for stuff to try. Does
 anyone have any advice on how to handle these?


I'm very 'idea' centered as well. See some 'ideas' below :)


 I don't want to keep them as todo items in the journal since I like to
 keep changing the todos (e.g., dividing them into subtasks) and I
 don't want those changes to appear in the journal.


I agree with this -- my idea for a 'journal' is a record of my work, meeting
notes, etc. Ideas are usually equivalent to 'off-topic concept to try later
that came up in the context of this meeting but that will develop
separately.'


 My initial thought
 was to create one headline for each idea and tag it with :idea:. I
 could then easily go through all ideas in a project and choose the
 ones I want to work on by creating todo items. Those ideas would then
 be further tagged with :handled: or something similar. This way I
 could search for unhandled ideas in my projects. As an alternative I
 could use separate todo keywords for todos and ideas.


What about:

### IDEA 1 ###
--- file: project_name.org ---
* Journals
** Title date
Notes about stuff

* Ideas
** TODO idea 1 date
** WORKING idea 2
** DONE idea 3 date

Something like this? This could track ideas in each project and if you do
use them as TODOs you can pull them up with agenda to check ideas across all
projects.

### IDEA 2 ###
- a remember template for ideas?
- file keystrokes set to set the file to a particular project's file with a
simple key entry?
- or... one file called 'ideas.org' divided by projects (or just tag idea
headlines with the project name)
--- then use remember-mode to add ideas to that file when you're in
meetings/taking notes in a different, dedicated project file?


 Any specific advice or just general thoughts are most appreciated.


I'm so new I can hardly believe I'm proposing these ideas as I don't even
know that I know everything necessary to implement them! But... these are
things i ponder so I thought I'd share...


 Cheers,
 /Ali


John



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