[Orgmode] What's the use of Column View?

2008-01-15 Thread Leo
Hi there,

Any one find the column view feature of any use?

1. It reduced the readability of .org files. I think the syntax of the
file should be kept as close as possible to plain text file.

2. It barely has a role in any GTD work flow.

All in all, I fail to understand this feature.

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Re: [Orgmode] What's the use of Column View?

2008-01-15 Thread Phil Jackson
Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Any one find the column view feature of any use?

Yes, I use it all the time. My main application of it being a (gpg'd)
passwords file. Column view makes it very easy to scan and edit.

I also use it to maintain a small, high level log of my business
accounts.

 1. It reduced the readability of .org files. I think the syntax of the
 file should be kept as close as possible to plain text file.

But you don't have to use it *and* it's all plain text.

 2. It barely has a role in any GTD work flow.

Org mode isn't just about GTD.

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Re: [Orgmode] What's the use of Column View?

2008-01-15 Thread Eddward DeVilla
On Jan 15, 2008 1:11 PM, Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi there,

 Any one find the column view feature of any use?

I intend to use it when I get to emacs 22.  I store reading lists and
other wishlist type things in tables right now, but the comment column
is huge.  I'd like to make it a set of outline items that I will
usually view as a table.  I may switch to using fewer checkbox lists
inside projects and instead use todo items that I'll view as a table.
I like tables, but verbose information doesn't belong in them.
Especially when you can't line-wrap inside a cell.

Edd


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Re: [Orgmode] What's the use of Column View?

2008-01-15 Thread Bastien
Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Any one find the column view feature of any use?

Yes!  I do love the column view feature.

For example, when I want to add milestones to tasks.  My project gets a
:MILESTONE: property, accepting :MILESTONE_ALL: 1.8 1.9 2.0 2.1 2.2, etc.

Then being able to see the different milestones just by switching to the
column view is great.  It helps reorder the tasks - among other things.

But this is just one small example, I guess many people will use the
column view in many other ways.

 1. It reduced the readability of .org files. 

For me it doesn't reduce the readability.  You can always pick up other
faces that look less intrusive to your eyes, or not use this feature at
all (if you don't like it.)

 I think the syntax of the file should be kept as close as possible to
 plain text file.

What is a plain text file?  If you mean: a plain text file, as it is
displayed in Emacs' text-mode, then I think that :

1) It has always been the philosophy behind org-mode (as far as it makes
   sense...)

2) a mode is a toolbox helping the user to interact with a file: Org is
   an Emacs tool that helps people using text files to store notes and
   do some planning - in this context, the column view is just a feature
   of the tool itself, not a property of the file

3) the only syntactic notion involved behind the curtain of the column
   view is that of _properties_.  But this notion is so deeply rooted in
   org-mode that I don't think it makes sense discussing it...

 2. It barely has a role in any GTD work flow.

AFAICT org-mode itself is - hopefully - not limited to the GTD
methodology.

 All in all, I fail to understand this feature.

Don't try to understand it, try to *use* it :)  

Hints on deciding whether this can be useful for you:

1. are you using properties?
2. is there a property that you are using *often*?
3. is there a property that you are often searching by?
4. is there a property that you are often changing?
5. is there a property you need to view your file is folded?

If you replied yes to one of these, chances are that you might be a
happy column-view user in a near future :)

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Re: [Orgmode] What's the use of Column View?

2008-01-15 Thread Russell Adams


On Wed, Jan 16, 2008 at 01:39:38AM +, Bastien wrote:
 
 For example, when I want to add milestones to tasks.  My project gets a
 :MILESTONE: property, accepting :MILESTONE_ALL: 1.8 1.9 2.0 2.1 2.2, etc.
 
 Then being able to see the different milestones just by switching to the
 column view is great.  It helps reorder the tasks - among other things.

Do you have an example you could share?

The only think I've looked at column view for is duration of items and
summation.

Thanks.


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