Re: [Orgmode] Worg needs some reorganizing
I am glad to find that Worg will be reorganized. Great content there. A strong recommendation for accessibility: if you try a sidebar, please test it with the maximum value for minimum font size in Firefox. Check for hidden text, overlapping text, and annoying scrollbars. This is true for any website, actually. Tou can put this recommendation in any place where you do standard reviews of websites, including Worg. Thanks. Samuel -- The Kafka Pandemic: http://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com I support WPI: http://www.wpinstitute.org/xmrv/index.html -- PLEASE DONATE === I want to see the original (pre-hold) Lo et al. 2010 NIH/FDA/Harvard MLV paper. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Worg needs some reorganizing
Hi all, Dan Davison writes: > Worg could do with some reorganization. It is not at all easy to find > stuff in there (at least, using a web browser). Shaking up this great thread. A small idea: maybe we can use more tags/properties/categories in Worg and define some agenda views that everyone could use? Of course, org-issues.org is the first file I would like to have agenda views for. I will post the one I use when set. Thanks, -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Worg needs some reorganizing
Yeah, this sounds neat. I'd like something for my own web. I use wiki-style linking for site navigation so far (like worg), but if we could use tags to organize posts and then have a sidebar or top tab-style navigation auto-inserted into the element, that would be ueber-cool. Jeff On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 10:07 AM, John Hendy wrote: > > > On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Eric Schulte > wrote: >> >> John Hendy writes: >> >> > Great topic. I agree. This will be quite the overhaul! Perhaps we should >> > propose some type of organizing scheme? By level of usage (beg, >> > intermediate, adv?), by functional use (notes, todos, exporting, math, >> > babel?), etc.? Just some ideas. If one's going to reorganize, might as >> > well >> > do it to the max! >> >> Maybe if these different organizational schema (usage level, function, >> etc...) were captured as tags in the Org-mode files, then the respective >> indices could be generated as part of the automated publishing. > > Ohhh -- that's fantastic. Categorize so that each entry can be found in > multiple ways. I really like that. Somewhat of a blend between wiki > intra-linking and bloggish tag cloud browsability? > > ___ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > -- Jeffrey Horn Graduate Lecturer and PhD Student in Economics George Mason University (704) 271-4797 jh...@gmu.edu jrhorn...@gmail.com ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Worg needs some reorganizing
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Eric Schulte wrote: > John Hendy writes: > > > Great topic. I agree. This will be quite the overhaul! Perhaps we should > > propose some type of organizing scheme? By level of usage (beg, > > intermediate, adv?), by functional use (notes, todos, exporting, math, > > babel?), etc.? Just some ideas. If one's going to reorganize, might as > well > > do it to the max! > > Maybe if these different organizational schema (usage level, function, > etc...) were captured as tags in the Org-mode files, then the respective > indices could be generated as part of the automated publishing. > Ohhh -- that's fantastic. Categorize so that each entry can be found in multiple ways. I really like that. Somewhat of a blend between wiki intra-linking and bloggish tag cloud browsability? ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Worg needs some reorganizing
John Hendy writes: > Great topic. I agree. This will be quite the overhaul! Perhaps we should > propose some type of organizing scheme? By level of usage (beg, > intermediate, adv?), by functional use (notes, todos, exporting, math, > babel?), etc.? Just some ideas. If one's going to reorganize, might as well > do it to the max! Maybe if these different organizational schema (usage level, function, etc...) were captured as tags in the Org-mode files, then the respective indices could be generated as part of the automated publishing. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Worg needs some reorganizing
On 13/10/10 16:41, Eric Schulte wrote: Dan Davison writes: Worg could do with some reorganization. It is not at all easy to find stuff in there (at least, using a web browser). I agree there is certainly room for improvement here. Maybe this sort of re-organization should be considered along with the new CSS changes. [...] This suggests to me firstly that we should do away with some of the hard directory structure and place most/all of the config/tutorial type files in a single directory. The other option I'd see to eliminating directory structures would be using something to reflect the directory structure in the title bar of the page [1]. Just a thought. Another option may be a navigation side bar reflecting the contents of the current directory bringing the web experience closer to the local git experience. Best -- Eric Footnotes: [1] I'm thinking "tabs", e.g. "tutorials", "contributed packages", etc... See the following for an example of such a layout made using Jekyll http://epr.adaptive.cs.unm.edu/ I think that part of the problem is that worg has now grown so big (a good thing), it's quite hard to find things just by browsing. The front page is basically just a big list. Once you have browsed around for a while, it's very easy to get lost. Eric's idea of a sidebar showing where you are and making it easier to get somewhere else is a good idea. Maybe we are reaching the limits of what can be achieved using org-publish alone and should consider some other tool as well, such as jekyll? This would need to be done in a way that still allowed easy user contributions and an automated build process. Ian. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Worg needs some reorganizing
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Dan Davison wrote: > Worg could do with some reorganization. It is not at all easy to find > stuff in there (at least, using a web browser). I don't currently use > Org to publish a website so I may be missing lots of tricks here, but I > see two problems at least: > > Great topic. I agree. This will be quite the overhaul! Perhaps we should propose some type of organizing scheme? By level of usage (beg, intermediate, adv?), by functional use (notes, todos, exporting, math, babel?), etc.? Just some ideas. If one's going to reorganize, might as well do it to the max! > > Secondly, does Org possess any technology that can be used to > automatically generate a useful index for Worg? Or > alternately/additionally a sitemap or other automated representation of > the full file/directory structure (e.g. using org-fstree[1])? > > That's a great idea as well. We should definitely find something that is self-updating. I would think that really thinking through the structure of Worg and integrating that into the directory structure of the git repo would help with that? > Dan > > Footnotes: > > [1] http://repo.or.cz/r/org-fstree.git > ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Worg needs some reorganizing
Dan Davison writes: > Worg could do with some reorganization. It is not at all easy to find > stuff in there (at least, using a web browser). I agree there is certainly room for improvement here. Maybe this sort of re-organization should be considered along with the new CSS changes. [...] > This suggests to me firstly that we should do away with some of the hard > directory structure and place most/all of the config/tutorial type files > in a single directory. The other option I'd see to eliminating directory structures would be using something to reflect the directory structure in the title bar of the page [1]. Just a thought. Another option may be a navigation side bar reflecting the contents of the current directory bringing the web experience closer to the local git experience. Best -- Eric Footnotes: [1] I'm thinking "tabs", e.g. "tutorials", "contributed packages", etc... See the following for an example of such a layout made using Jekyll http://epr.adaptive.cs.unm.edu/ ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] Worg needs some reorganizing
Carsten Dominik writes: > On Oct 13, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Ian Barton wrote: > >> >> Hi Eric, >> >> There is a file in worg called org-color-themes.org, which contains >> your colour theme (railscast). However, it's not referenced by any >> of the other worg pages, so you couldn't find it if you didn't know >> it existed! Worg could do with some reorganization. It is not at all easy to find stuff in there (at least, using a web browser). I don't currently use Org to publish a website so I may be missing lots of tricks here, but I see two problems at least: 1. There is no clear distinction between files in the root folder and files in org-tutorials/. Probably also org-configs/ and org-contrib/ could be added to this list (people don't know what's in contrib and what is in Org and what is just somewhere else on the web) 2. Worse, aIui we are relying on manual maintenance of index pages, with results like the above. This suggests to me firstly that we should do away with some of the hard directory structure and place most/all of the config/tutorial type files in a single directory. Secondly, does Org possess any technology that can be used to automatically generate a useful index for Worg? Or alternately/additionally a sitemap or other automated representation of the full file/directory structure (e.g. using org-fstree[1])? Dan Footnotes: [1] http://repo.or.cz/r/org-fstree.git > > Hi Ian, > > I take it that this is something you will fix? > > Thanks. > > - Carsten > > >> There is a short bit on org-appearance.pgp about colour themes. I am >> adding the notes for all the colour themes to this page and am >> creating a new page to host the screen shots. >> >> I want to put the screenshots on another page, so they don't slow >> down loading the org-appearance page. Also I want to display 200 >> pixel wide screen thumbnails and use the Lightbox javascript library >> to allow the user to see a full size popup. This involves quite a >> bit of fiddling about to get the page to look right and I don't want >> to mess up the appreance of org-appearance! >> >> -- >> Best wishes, >> >> Ian. >> >> "Eric Schulte" writes: >> >>> Ian Barton writes: >>> Scott Jaderholm writes: > http://jaderholm.com/color-themes/color-theme-colorful-obsolescence.el > http://jaderholm.com/color-themes/color-theme-active.el > http://jaderholm.com/color-themes/color-theme-wombat.el > > Please link to don't copy so that as I make changes they'll get > updated. > > Scott > > Scott, Thanks for the references to your other themes. I'll make sure that I link to them instead of copying them. >>> >>> Hi Ian, >>> >>> I've previously posted my color theme to the following. >>> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-color-themes.php >>> >>> Is there another worg page with a collection of color themes? >>> >>> Best -- Eric >> >> >> ___ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > > ___ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
