Re: [Orgmode] checkbox problem
Hi Samuel, I am quite convinced that only indentation should be used to determine list structure. I believe the solution to the problem would be a yank function that would adapt the indentation... - Carsten On Jun 19, 2009, at 7:58 PM, Samuel Wales wrote: Interesting. Just as a brainstorm, I wonder if there is a block that could achieve the same effect? Or, perhaps, if indentation that looks like the following could be handled automatically? - item - subitem this is stuff pasted flush left. we know that it is a body because there is no blank line between subitem and this is stuff. this is another paragraph of the body we know that it is still part of the body because it is followed by a subitem and there is no blank line after it. this is a little kludgey and maybe there is a better solution. - this is another subitem that terminates the plain list item above. Perhaps this was already considered? On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 01:36, Sebastian Rosesebastian_r...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Thomas, Lists depend entirely on indentation. Sidenote: For long mails and similar texts I use a drawer: (setq org-drawers (quote (PROPERTIES CLOCK PHONE EMAIL REMAIL HIDDEN LOGBOOK))) :EMAIL: and :REMAIL: are the ones I use for mails from and to customers. Sebastian Thomas S. Dye t...@tsdye.com writes: Aloha all, First, org-mode is really useful. The more I use it, the more useful it gets and the more I appreciate its flexibility. I've been using it for several months but still feel like a newbie. Perhaps the problem I'm having stems from this. I use the checkbox feature a lot, with good effect, like this: *** Task 1 [/] - [ ] Step 1 - [ ] Step 2 - [ ] Step 3 Recently, I received via email comments from 4 reviewers on a paper I'd submitted for publication. The editor asked me to keep track of how I'd responded to all of the comments, so I tried this: *** Reviewer 1 [/] - [ ] Comment 1 - [ ] Comment 2 etc. I cut the comments out of the email message and pasted them directly into the org file in Aquamacs Emacs. Some of the comments are quite lengthy, others are short. My problem is that midway down a list of comments org-mode ceases to recognize that the comment checkboxes are associated with the heading. In each case, the last comment checkbox that is correctly associated with the heading formats differently (with Esc-Q) than the comments above it. The comment checkboxes that are associated correctly format as indented blocks with the second and subsequent lines of text left justified on the [ of the first line. The last associated checkbox justifies the second and subsequent lines two characters left of the - of the first line. Subsequent, unassociated checkboxes align the - of the first line with last line of the item above it. Here is an example: *** Reviewer 3 [2/6] ... (Several items omitted) - [X] p. 7 In 1779, Kamehameha was a young man on his way up as a favored nephew of Kalaniopu`u, but isn't it a little early to refer to his dynasty? - [X] p. 7 It is true Kamehameha benefited greatly from Western advice and weapons, but the tradition of conquest was well established by the time he embarked on his career as a conqueror by chiefs including Kalaniopu`u, and especially Kahekili. - [X] p. 7 According to traditions 'Umi's father had been recognized as paramount of the island. `Umi regained his father's status by putting down a rebellion of the five districts other than Hamakua and reunited the polity. I think of this as a civil war rather than the capture of territory to which he had no previous claim. In this case the first two items are counted in the headline, but the last one isn't. If someone could point out what might be going wrong, I'll appreciate it. All the best, Tom ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- Myalgic encephalomyelitis denialism is causing death and severe suffering, worse than MS. Conflicts of interest are destroying research. / You/ can get the disease at any time permanently. Do science and justice matter to you? http://www.meactionuk.org.uk/What_Is_ME_What_Is_CFS.htm ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] checkbox problem
On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Thomas S. Dye wrote: Aloha all, First, org-mode is really useful. The more I use it, the more useful it gets and the more I appreciate its flexibility. I've been using it for several months but still feel like a newbie. Perhaps the problem I'm having stems from this. I use the checkbox feature a lot, with good effect, like this: *** Task 1 [/] - [ ] Step 1 - [ ] Step 2 - [ ] Step 3 Recently, I received via email comments from 4 reviewers on a paper I'd submitted for publication. The editor asked me to keep track of how I'd responded to all of the comments, so I tried this: *** Reviewer 1 [/] - [ ] Comment 1 - [ ] Comment 2 etc. I cut the comments out of the email message and pasted them directly into the org file in Aquamacs Emacs. Some of the comments are quite lengthy, others are short. My problem is that midway down a list of comments org-mode ceases to recognize that the comment checkboxes are associated with the heading. In each case, the last comment checkbox that is correctly associated with the heading formats differently (with Esc-Q) than the comments above it. The comment checkboxes that are associated correctly format as indented blocks with the second and subsequent lines of text left justified on the [ of the first line. The last associated checkbox justifies the second and subsequent lines two characters left of the - of the first line. Subsequent, unassociated checkboxes align the - of the first line with last line of the item above it. Here is an example: *** Reviewer 3 [2/6] ... (Several items omitted) - [X] p. 7 In 1779, Kamehameha was a young man on his way up as a favored nephew of Kalaniopu`u, but isn't it a little early to refer to his dynasty? - [X] p. 7 It is true Kamehameha benefited greatly from Western advice and weapons, but the tradition of conquest was well established by the time he embarked on his career as a conqueror by chiefs including Kalaniopu`u, and especially Kahekili. - [X] p. 7 According to traditions 'Umi's father had been recognized as paramount of the island. `Umi regained his father's status by putting down a rebellion of the five districts other than Hamakua and reunited the polity. I think of this as a civil war rather than the capture of territory to which he had no previous claim. In this case the first two items are counted in the headline, but the last one isn't. It behaves as expected if you keep the lines below checkboxes indented at least one character right to the - above them. I find it unsettling when lines/checkboxes are formatted with indentation jutting to the left, so I never use it personally. Moreover, if you paste a long time against a checkbox and format it with Esc-Q (I find ALT-q easier), it is formatted correctly so as not to cause the problem you described. Following example behaves fine. , | *** Reviewer 3 [4/5] | | ... (Several items omitted) | | - [X] p. 7 In 1779, Kamehameha was a young man on his way up as a | favored nephew of Kalaniopu`u, but isn't it a little early to | refer to his dynasty? | - [X] p. 7 It is true Kamehameha benefited greatly from Western | advice and weapons, but the tradition of conquest was well | established by the time he embarked on his career as a | conqueror by chiefs including Kalaniopu`u, and especially | Kahekili. | - [ ] kjsvhkjshvjk slv lsk jvjlk jvlks jvlkj slkvj slkv jlksj | fvkls jlvkj flkjv lksjf vlksj vlks jlkv jslkvj lksv jlks jvls jv | lksfjvlksjvlkdjskl | - [X] p. 7 According to traditions 'Umi's father had been | recognized as paramount of the island. `Umi regained his | father's status by putting down a rebellion of the five | districts other than Hamakua and reunited the polity. I think | of this as a civil war rather than the capture of territory to | which he had no previous claim. | - [X] jkhfkuwhkfh wkrh fkjwehtkjherkgh woe ghoi2h giw htig hil2 | hgowttwhet tgh rltig hl4 ghl2 h5li hlti h245t hil h4wlg h42ot | h54 htou h5 ` There must be a technical requirement for indentation to behave as it does since Org uses indentation extensively to determine appropriate behavior. May be someone knowledgeable about Org internals can shed more light. HTH -- Manish ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] checkbox problem
Hi Thomas, Lists depend entirely on indentation. Sidenote: For long mails and similar texts I use a drawer: (setq org-drawers (quote (PROPERTIES CLOCK PHONE EMAIL REMAIL HIDDEN LOGBOOK))) :EMAIL: and :REMAIL: are the ones I use for mails from and to customers. Sebastian Thomas S. Dye t...@tsdye.com writes: Aloha all, First, org-mode is really useful. The more I use it, the more useful it gets and the more I appreciate its flexibility. I've been using it for several months but still feel like a newbie. Perhaps the problem I'm having stems from this. I use the checkbox feature a lot, with good effect, like this: *** Task 1 [/] - [ ] Step 1 - [ ] Step 2 - [ ] Step 3 Recently, I received via email comments from 4 reviewers on a paper I'd submitted for publication. The editor asked me to keep track of how I'd responded to all of the comments, so I tried this: *** Reviewer 1 [/] - [ ] Comment 1 - [ ] Comment 2 etc. I cut the comments out of the email message and pasted them directly into the org file in Aquamacs Emacs. Some of the comments are quite lengthy, others are short. My problem is that midway down a list of comments org-mode ceases to recognize that the comment checkboxes are associated with the heading. In each case, the last comment checkbox that is correctly associated with the heading formats differently (with Esc-Q) than the comments above it. The comment checkboxes that are associated correctly format as indented blocks with the second and subsequent lines of text left justified on the [ of the first line. The last associated checkbox justifies the second and subsequent lines two characters left of the - of the first line. Subsequent, unassociated checkboxes align the - of the first line with last line of the item above it. Here is an example: *** Reviewer 3 [2/6] ... (Several items omitted) - [X] p. 7 In 1779, Kamehameha was a young man on his way up as a favored nephew of Kalaniopu`u, but isn't it a little early to refer to his dynasty? - [X] p. 7 It is true Kamehameha benefited greatly from Western advice and weapons, but the tradition of conquest was well established by the time he embarked on his career as a conqueror by chiefs including Kalaniopu`u, and especially Kahekili. - [X] p. 7 According to traditions 'Umi's father had been recognized as paramount of the island. `Umi regained his father's status by putting down a rebellion of the five districts other than Hamakua and reunited the polity. I think of this as a civil war rather than the capture of territory to which he had no previous claim. In this case the first two items are counted in the headline, but the last one isn't. If someone could point out what might be going wrong, I'll appreciate it. All the best, Tom ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] checkbox problem
Interesting. Just as a brainstorm, I wonder if there is a block that could achieve the same effect? Or, perhaps, if indentation that looks like the following could be handled automatically? - item - subitem this is stuff pasted flush left. we know that it is a body because there is no blank line between subitem and this is stuff. this is another paragraph of the body we know that it is still part of the body because it is followed by a subitem and there is no blank line after it. this is a little kludgey and maybe there is a better solution. - this is another subitem that terminates the plain list item above. Perhaps this was already considered? On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 01:36, Sebastian Rosesebastian_r...@gmx.de wrote: Hi Thomas, Lists depend entirely on indentation. Sidenote: For long mails and similar texts I use a drawer: (setq org-drawers (quote (PROPERTIES CLOCK PHONE EMAIL REMAIL HIDDEN LOGBOOK))) :EMAIL: and :REMAIL: are the ones I use for mails from and to customers. Sebastian Thomas S. Dye t...@tsdye.com writes: Aloha all, First, org-mode is really useful. The more I use it, the more useful it gets and the more I appreciate its flexibility. I've been using it for several months but still feel like a newbie. Perhaps the problem I'm having stems from this. I use the checkbox feature a lot, with good effect, like this: *** Task 1 [/] - [ ] Step 1 - [ ] Step 2 - [ ] Step 3 Recently, I received via email comments from 4 reviewers on a paper I'd submitted for publication. The editor asked me to keep track of how I'd responded to all of the comments, so I tried this: *** Reviewer 1 [/] - [ ] Comment 1 - [ ] Comment 2 etc. I cut the comments out of the email message and pasted them directly into the org file in Aquamacs Emacs. Some of the comments are quite lengthy, others are short. My problem is that midway down a list of comments org-mode ceases to recognize that the comment checkboxes are associated with the heading. In each case, the last comment checkbox that is correctly associated with the heading formats differently (with Esc-Q) than the comments above it. The comment checkboxes that are associated correctly format as indented blocks with the second and subsequent lines of text left justified on the [ of the first line. The last associated checkbox justifies the second and subsequent lines two characters left of the - of the first line. Subsequent, unassociated checkboxes align the - of the first line with last line of the item above it. Here is an example: *** Reviewer 3 [2/6] ... (Several items omitted) - [X] p. 7 In 1779, Kamehameha was a young man on his way up as a favored nephew of Kalaniopu`u, but isn't it a little early to refer to his dynasty? - [X] p. 7 It is true Kamehameha benefited greatly from Western advice and weapons, but the tradition of conquest was well established by the time he embarked on his career as a conqueror by chiefs including Kalaniopu`u, and especially Kahekili. - [X] p. 7 According to traditions 'Umi's father had been recognized as paramount of the island. `Umi regained his father's status by putting down a rebellion of the five districts other than Hamakua and reunited the polity. I think of this as a civil war rather than the capture of territory to which he had no previous claim. In this case the first two items are counted in the headline, but the last one isn't. If someone could point out what might be going wrong, I'll appreciate it. All the best, Tom ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- Myalgic encephalomyelitis denialism is causing death and severe suffering, worse than MS. Conflicts of interest are destroying research. /You/ can get the disease at any time permanently. Do science and justice matter to you? http://www.meactionuk.org.uk/What_Is_ME_What_Is_CFS.htm ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
[Orgmode] checkbox problem
Aloha all, First, org-mode is really useful. The more I use it, the more useful it gets and the more I appreciate its flexibility. I've been using it for several months but still feel like a newbie. Perhaps the problem I'm having stems from this. I use the checkbox feature a lot, with good effect, like this: *** Task 1 [/] - [ ] Step 1 - [ ] Step 2 - [ ] Step 3 Recently, I received via email comments from 4 reviewers on a paper I'd submitted for publication. The editor asked me to keep track of how I'd responded to all of the comments, so I tried this: *** Reviewer 1 [/] - [ ] Comment 1 - [ ] Comment 2 etc. I cut the comments out of the email message and pasted them directly into the org file in Aquamacs Emacs. Some of the comments are quite lengthy, others are short. My problem is that midway down a list of comments org-mode ceases to recognize that the comment checkboxes are associated with the heading. In each case, the last comment checkbox that is correctly associated with the heading formats differently (with Esc-Q) than the comments above it. The comment checkboxes that are associated correctly format as indented blocks with the second and subsequent lines of text left justified on the [ of the first line. The last associated checkbox justifies the second and subsequent lines two characters left of the - of the first line. Subsequent, unassociated checkboxes align the - of the first line with last line of the item above it. Here is an example: *** Reviewer 3 [2/6] ... (Several items omitted) - [X] p. 7 In 1779, Kamehameha was a young man on his way up as a favored nephew of Kalaniopu`u, but isn't it a little early to refer to his dynasty? - [X] p. 7 It is true Kamehameha benefited greatly from Western advice and weapons, but the tradition of conquest was well established by the time he embarked on his career as a conqueror by chiefs including Kalaniopu`u, and especially Kahekili. - [X] p. 7 According to traditions 'Umi's father had been recognized as paramount of the island. `Umi regained his father's status by putting down a rebellion of the five districts other than Hamakua and reunited the polity. I think of this as a civil war rather than the capture of territory to which he had no previous claim. In this case the first two items are counted in the headline, but the last one isn't. If someone could point out what might be going wrong, I'll appreciate it. All the best, Tom Thomas S. Dye, Ph.D. T. S. Dye Colleagues, Archaeologists, Inc. Phone: (808) 529-0866 Fax: (808) 529-0884 http://www.tsdye.com ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
