Re: [Orgmode] emacs on the iPhone

2009-07-21 Thread Sven Bretfeld
Greg Newman g...@20seven.org writes:

 For those that are interested (and don't already know), there are a
 few apps out now for secure shell on the iphone.  The one I'm using is
 issh by zingersoft.  http://www.zinger-soft.com/iSSH_features.html

 So far I've had good luck with it and hopefully later this week will
 have time to poke a hole in my router to try connecting to my mac so I
 can give org-mode a try with it.  I have successfully run emacs and
 irssi from my server but it's not setup for org.

I got a HTC Magic running Android a few weeks ago. There is a free powerful
and fast ssh application called ConnectBot available in the Android
Market. ConnectBot can handle ssh keys and lets you put an icon for
frequently used connections on the desktop.

Connecting to my PC and starting emacsclient -t via a bash-alias (`ec')
takes about 5 seconds from everywhere. I think running (and working
with) a native Emacs on the phone itself (which isn't available anyway)
could never be much faster. Gnus and Org-mode are ready to go. And no
need to synchronize.

This is the solution I always dreamed of and more than once asked about
in this list. I can very much recommend Android (even if its
relationship to Google can be annoying).

For those who want to give it a try: In ConnectBot CTRL is pressing the
mouse ball once, META (ESC) is pressing it twice. TAB is twice pressing
the mouse ball and hitting SPC. To expand a tree in an org file you have
to set org-cycle to a key. Of course, you should have an internet
flatrate if you want to write your PhD thesis that way ;-).

Greetings

Sven

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Re: [Orgmode] emacs on the iPhone

2009-07-21 Thread Michael Zeller
Sven Bretfeld sven.bretf...@gmx.ch writes:


 Connecting to my PC and starting emacsclient -t via a bash-alias (`ec')
 takes about 5 seconds from everywhere. I think running (and working
 with) a native Emacs on the phone itself (which isn't available anyway)
 could never be much faster. Gnus and Org-mode are ready to go. And no
 need to synchronize.

As an aside, you could actually run emacs natively on the g1. I've
followed the instructions from Jay Freeman (http://www.saurik.com/id/10,
seems to be down though, try using the Google cache) for installing
Debian on the g1 (on your SD card -- I recommend getting an 8GB
card). After you've installed Debian you run openssh and connect to
localhost using ConnectBot.

Even better, you could install xorg and run emacs using AndroidVNC in X,
although I've found this to be much slower. Although, theoretically
you could use a browser such as Conkeror in X to follow http links,
although this is extremely slow for me. You're better off with w3m-el,
until newer hardware comes out. Also note that the keyboard under
AndroidVNC is not as nice as ConnectBot's layout.


 This is the solution I always dreamed of and more than once asked about
 in this list. I can very much recommend Android (even if its
 relationship to Google can be annoying).

I also recommend Android.


 For those who want to give it a try: In ConnectBot CTRL is pressing the
 mouse ball once, META (ESC) is pressing it twice. TAB is twice pressing
 the mouse ball and hitting SPC. To expand a tree in an org file you have
 to set org-cycle to a key. Of course, you should have an internet
 flatrate if you want to write your PhD thesis that way ;-).

With my solution, you don't need to drop all of that money on an
internet plan, but you would need to sync your org files. For using the
g1 without a plan, just buy a prepaid SIM card and connect using adb
shell when registering the phone and execute:

am start -a android.intent.action.MAIN -n com.android.settings/.Settings

to bring up the Wifi settings and register without buying a dataplan. I
spend about $10 a month prepaid and use Skype for everything else.


 Greetings

 Sven

Thanks,
~Michael Zeller


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Re: [Orgmode] emacs on the iPhone

2009-07-21 Thread Greg Newman
Man, you guys are making me want and android phone.I sat in a cafe with a
friend who grep'd his mail server from his g1 and was impressed.

On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Michael Zeller 
michael.dylan.zel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sven Bretfeld sven.bretf...@gmx.ch writes:

 
  Connecting to my PC and starting emacsclient -t via a bash-alias (`ec')
  takes about 5 seconds from everywhere. I think running (and working
  with) a native Emacs on the phone itself (which isn't available anyway)
  could never be much faster. Gnus and Org-mode are ready to go. And no
  need to synchronize.

 As an aside, you could actually run emacs natively on the g1. I've
 followed the instructions from Jay Freeman (http://www.saurik.com/id/10,
 seems to be down though, try using the Google cache) for installing
 Debian on the g1 (on your SD card -- I recommend getting an 8GB
 card). After you've installed Debian you run openssh and connect to
 localhost using ConnectBot.

 Even better, you could install xorg and run emacs using AndroidVNC in X,
 although I've found this to be much slower. Although, theoretically
 you could use a browser such as Conkeror in X to follow http links,
 although this is extremely slow for me. You're better off with w3m-el,
 until newer hardware comes out. Also note that the keyboard under
 AndroidVNC is not as nice as ConnectBot's layout.

 
  This is the solution I always dreamed of and more than once asked about
  in this list. I can very much recommend Android (even if its
  relationship to Google can be annoying).

 I also recommend Android.

 
  For those who want to give it a try: In ConnectBot CTRL is pressing the
  mouse ball once, META (ESC) is pressing it twice. TAB is twice pressing
  the mouse ball and hitting SPC. To expand a tree in an org file you have
  to set org-cycle to a key. Of course, you should have an internet
  flatrate if you want to write your PhD thesis that way ;-).

 With my solution, you don't need to drop all of that money on an
 internet plan, but you would need to sync your org files. For using the
 g1 without a plan, just buy a prepaid SIM card and connect using adb
 shell when registering the phone and execute:

 am start -a android.intent.action.MAIN -n com.android.settings/.Settings

 to bring up the Wifi settings and register without buying a dataplan. I
 spend about $10 a month prepaid and use Skype for everything else.

 
  Greetings
 
  Sven

 Thanks,
 ~Michael Zeller


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[Orgmode] emacs on the iPhone

2009-07-20 Thread Greg Newman
For those that are interested (and don't already know), there are a few apps
out now for secure shell on the iphone.  The one I'm using is issh by
zingersoft. http://www.zinger-soft.com/iSSH_features.html
So far I've had good luck with it and hopefully later this week will have
time to poke a hole in my router to try connecting to my mac so I can give
org-mode a try with it.  I have successfully run emacs and irssi from my
server but it's not setup for org.

If anyone does give it a try before I report back please fill me/us in.

Cheers,


*Greg Newman*

http://20seven.org

twitter: 20seven
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