Re: [Orgmode] some notes about installing org-mode on Sidux

2008-07-28 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi Raimund,

yes,  (require 'org-install) is only needed if you have downloaded  
your Org installation separately, not as part of emacs.


yes, this should be the first line of org-related configuration.

The warning you see is no problem.

- Carsten
On Jul 27, 2008, at 7:52 AM, Raimund Kohl-Füchsle wrote:


Hello all,

I faced some problems with using remember and org-mode and first I  
didn't connect them with either remember nor org-mode but with my  
use of aptitude instead, which is completely wrong with Sidux (well,  
we all learn ... )  However, in the end I thought to just mention a  
few of my experiences.  Since I am no expert, neither with emacs nor  
with any programming languages (-being just a lousy user instead-) I  
thought to mention them anyway :-) ... if all what I faced is  
connected with incompetence on my side, well, don't through tomatoes  
at me ... just smile, please :-)


Ok, first I installed Sidux, a system based on Debian sid, but  
stabilized and realy easy to use.  I installed emacs22 and became  
quite amazed learning that org-mode came along bundled with  
emacs22.  Yeah, I thought, great.  Since I came from Ubuntu, the  
only thing I needed to do was to outcomment


;;(require 'org-install)

and all went well.  However, after some time of using org-mode I  
became aware that when exporting to html CSS didn't work properly  
(which had worked before with Ubuntu!)  When researching the reason  
I found out that the version that came bundled with emacs22 is a  
very old version (AFAIR 4.65, and I guess back then there had been  
no org-install variable and that was the reason why I was to  
outcomment it to have org-mode working ... right?).  Next I found  
out that there existed a seperate deb pakage org-mode which then  
delivered the newest version.  And this one needs to have set  
(require 'org-install) otherwise it will not work (at least) with  
remember-el.  I may have overlooked that in the manual that older  
versions don't accept org-install, but newer versions need it to  
work properly.


Also according to my fresh experience it seems to matter if

  (require 'org-install)


is called *before* e.g.:

  (org-remember-insinuate)
  (setq org-directory ~/Rollen/Org/)
  (define-key global-map \C-cr 'org-remember)


If not emacs complains about a void org-remember-insinuate and will  
not work together with remember-el.


There is another thing that I noted when installing org-mode.  Here  
the install note:


---snip---

In org-indent-to-column:
org-compat.el:212:5:Warning: `indent-to-column' called with 3 args,  
but

  requires 1-2

---snap---

Ok, so that was what I wanted to mention ...

ray



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[Orgmode] some notes about installing org-mode on Sidux

2008-07-27 Thread Raimund Kohl-Füchsle

Hello all,

I faced some problems with using remember and org-mode and first I 
didn't connect them with either remember nor org-mode but with my use of 
aptitude instead, which is completely wrong with Sidux (well, we all 
learn ... )  However, in the end I thought to just mention a few of my 
experiences.  Since I am no expert, neither with emacs nor with any 
programming languages (-being just a lousy user instead-) I thought to 
mention them anyway :-) ... if all what I faced is connected with 
incompetence on my side, well, don't through tomatoes at me ... just 
smile, please :-)


Ok, first I installed Sidux, a system based on Debian sid, but 
stabilized and realy easy to use.  I installed emacs22 and became quite 
amazed learning that org-mode came along bundled with emacs22.  Yeah, I 
thought, great.  Since I came from Ubuntu, the only thing I needed to do 
was to outcomment


;;(require 'org-install)

and all went well.  However, after some time of using org-mode I became 
aware that when exporting to html CSS didn't work properly (which had 
worked before with Ubuntu!)  When researching the reason I found out 
that the version that came bundled with emacs22 is a very old version 
(AFAIR 4.65, and I guess back then there had been no org-install 
variable and that was the reason why I was to outcomment it to have 
org-mode working ... right?).  Next I found out that there existed a 
seperate deb pakage org-mode which then delivered the newest version.  
And this one needs to have set (require 'org-install) otherwise it will 
not work (at least) with remember-el.  I may have overlooked that in the 
manual that older versions don't accept org-install, but newer 
versions need it to work properly.


Also according to my fresh experience it seems to matter if

   (require 'org-install)


is called *before* e.g.:

   (org-remember-insinuate)
   (setq org-directory ~/Rollen/Org/)
   (define-key global-map \C-cr 'org-remember)


If not emacs complains about a void org-remember-insinuate and will not 
work together with remember-el.


There is another thing that I noted when installing org-mode.  Here the 
install note:


---snip---

In org-indent-to-column:
org-compat.el:212:5:Warning: `indent-to-column' called with 3 args, but
   requires 1-2

---snap---

Ok, so that was what I wanted to mention ...

ray



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