Re: [Orgmode] unicorn image is not a link back to the front page on orgmode.org

2009-06-25 Thread Bastien
Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes:

 What would be wrong with pulling the image out of the
 background and making it directly clickable?

None, I've done this.  

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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn image is not a link back to the front page on orgmode.org

2009-06-25 Thread Sebastian Rose
Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes:
 Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes:

 What would be wrong with pulling the image out of the
 background and making it directly clickable?

 None, I've done this.  

:-D

good idea.. :)

I'll re-check the IE stuff tonight.



Sebastian



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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn image is not a link back to the front page on orgmode.org

2009-06-25 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jun 25, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote:


Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes:

Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes:


What would be wrong with pulling the image out of the
background and making it directly clickable?


None, I've done this.


Great.  I am also more comfortable with this because invisible  
clicking areas are notoriously used by fishing sites to make users

believe they click one thing, and in fact they click another.

At least this is how I interpret what I hear.  Lets try to keep
things transparent.

- Carsten



:-D

good idea.. :)

I'll re-check the IE stuff tonight.



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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn image is not a link back to the front page on orgmode.org

2009-06-25 Thread Manish
  On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Sebastian Rose wrote:
   Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes:
   Carsten Dominik carsten.domi...@gmail.com writes:
  
   What would be wrong with pulling the image out of the
   background and making it directly clickable?
  
   None, I've done this.
  
   :-D
  
   good idea.. :)
  
   I'll re-check the IE stuff tonight.

You may check the latest screenshots of Org home page at
http://www.vyom.org/screenshots

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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn image is not a link back to the front page on orgmode.org

2009-06-25 Thread Bastien
Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes:

I'll re-check the IE stuff tonight.

 You may check the latest screenshots of Org home page at
 http://www.vyom.org/screenshots

Uh - that's bad in IE.

Sebastian can you update this .css class to make it work ok 
in IE?

,
| .logo-link {
|   position: fixed;
|   top: 10px;
|   left: 30px;
| }
`

Thanks!

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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn image is not a link back to the front page on orgmode.org

2009-06-25 Thread Sebastian Rose
Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes:
 Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes:

I'll re-check the IE stuff tonight.

 You may check the latest screenshots of Org home page at
 http://www.vyom.org/screenshots

 Uh - that's bad in IE.

 Sebastian can you update this .css class to make it work ok 
 in IE?

 ,
 | .logo-link {
 |   position: fixed;
 |   top: 10px;
 |   left: 30px;
 | }
 `


Add this at the end of the style sheet:


* html .logo-link
{
position: absolute;
top: 10px;
left: 30px;
}



This works in IE 6 on XP. It's the same make up as for the other style
classes that have a fixed position.



(If we do more of those, maybe a second stylesheet is even better. There
are simple tags that only IE reads in the head section and thus can
include an additional stylesheet. That stylesheet could be even more
specific then.)



Best wishes


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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn image is not a link back to the front page on orgmode.org

2009-06-25 Thread Bastien
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:

 Add this at the end of the style sheet:


 * html .logo-link
 {
 position: absolute;
 top: 10px;
 left: 30px;
 }

I've done this - thanks!

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[Orgmode] unicorn image is not a link back to the front page on orgmode.org

2009-06-24 Thread James Yoo
Linking back to the front page via the main logo is pretty standard, or at
least that's what I've come to expect... is there a particular reason why
the unicorn graphic does not?
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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn image is not a link back to the front page on orgmode.org

2009-06-24 Thread Xin Shi
One reason is that this picture is a background.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:39 AM, James Yoo james@gmail.com wrote:

 Linking back to the front page via the main logo is pretty standard, or at
 least that's what I've come to expect... is there a particular reason why
 the unicorn graphic does not?


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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn image is not a link back to the front page on orgmode.org

2009-06-24 Thread Bastien
James Yoo james@gmail.com writes:

 Linking back to the front page via the main logo is pretty standard, or at
 least that's what I've come to expect... is there a particular reason why the
 unicorn graphic does not?

I agree it would be convenient.  But the image logo is inserted as a
background image in the .css and I don't know how to turn such an image
into a clickable link.

This page might help:

http://webdevnews.net/2007/01/css-trick-turning-a-background-image-into-a-clickable-link/

... but it's currently unavailable.

Any idea?

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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn image is not a link back to the front page on orgmode.org

2009-06-24 Thread Manish
The page seems to work for me at the moment.  Would you like me to
save it and send it to you?

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On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Bastienbastiengue...@googlemail.com wrote:
 James Yoo james@gmail.com writes:

 Linking back to the front page via the main logo is pretty standard, or at
 least that's what I've come to expect... is there a particular reason why the
 unicorn graphic does not?

 I agree it would be convenient.  But the image logo is inserted as a
 background image in the .css and I don't know how to turn such an image
 into a clickable link.

 This page might help:

 http://webdevnews.net/2007/01/css-trick-turning-a-background-image-into-a-clickable-link/

 ... but it's currently unavailable.

 Any idea?

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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn image is not a link back to the front page on orgmode.org

2009-06-24 Thread Sebastian Rose

We could try to position a div element over the background-image:


a href=http://orgmode.org;div id=clickableUnicorn#160;/div/a



  Sebastian





Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.com writes:
 James Yoo james@gmail.com writes:

 Linking back to the front page via the main logo is pretty standard, or at
 least that's what I've come to expect... is there a particular reason why the
 unicorn graphic does not?

 I agree it would be convenient.  But the image logo is inserted as a
 background image in the .css and I don't know how to turn such an image
 into a clickable link.

 This page might help:

 http://webdevnews.net/2007/01/css-trick-turning-a-background-image-into-a-clickable-link/

 ... but it's currently unavailable.

 Any idea?


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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn image is not a link back to the front page on orgmode.org

2009-06-24 Thread Bastien
Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes:

 The page seems to work for me at the moment.  Would you like me to
 save it and send it to you?

Thanks - Greg gave me instructions and the logo should be clickable 
now.

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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn image is not a link back to the front page on orgmode.org

2009-06-24 Thread Greg Newman
You're welcome.Fixed works too.  Absolute can act goofy if the main body and
starting div aren't set to absolute.  I should have known better.
Sebastion: divs work too on some browsers.  Some browsers (cough) IE will
sometimes collapse them if they have no content.  I've  always had better
luck with a transparent image.

Bastien.  Works great for me on Safari.

Cheers,


*Greg Newman*

http://20seven.org

twitter: 20seven

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Bastien bastiengue...@googlemail.comwrote:

 Manish mailtomanish.sha...@gmail.com writes:

  The page seems to work for me at the moment.  Would you like me to
  save it and send it to you?

 Thanks - Greg gave me instructions and the logo should be clickable
 now.

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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn image is not a link back to the front page on orgmode.org

2009-06-24 Thread Sebastian Rose

Greg Newman g...@20seven.org writes:
 You're welcome.Fixed works too.  Absolute can act goofy if the main body and
 starting div aren't set to absolute.  I should have known better.
[1]

Fixed will not work in IE. It will scroll out of view if you scroll the
page.

See the bottom of org.css on how add the `absolute' positioning for IE
only (the simple way...). [2]


 Sebastion: divs work too on some browsers.  Some browsers (cough) IE will
 sometimes collapse them if they have no content.  I've  always had better
 luck with a transparent image.


Good, I heard that before. I guess it was IE 5 or something. Don't how
the MAC version of IE is (crap I guess).

It looks good and works (Linux FF 3 and Opera 10).


Sebastian







[1] Actually, the position is choosen relative (default) or absolute to
the next parent, that has a non-default `position'. This works in
all browsers.

Example:
 
div style=position:relative;  !-- nothing special, but rules --
 div style=position:absolute; top:-10px; right:-10px
  !-- close link and icon here --
 /div
/div
 
It's important, to add _no_ padding and _no_ margin to the elements
meant for positioning. Paddings and margins are handled
differently. IE does it all wrong then.


[2] This here might work (not sure if this works, if we position the img
though. Maybe we'll have to position the link and use
display:block;):

* html a.logo-link {
   position: absolute;
   top: 0px;
   left: 0px;
   width: 190px;
   height: 190px;
}


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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn image is not a link back to the front page on orgmode.org

2009-06-24 Thread James Yoo
I almost feel guilty for bringing it up

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.dewrote:


 Greg Newman g...@20seven.org writes:
  You're welcome.Fixed works too.  Absolute can act goofy if the main body
 and
  starting div aren't set to absolute.  I should have known better.
 [1]

 Fixed will not work in IE. It will scroll out of view if you scroll the
 page.

 See the bottom of org.css on how add the `absolute' positioning for IE
 only (the simple way...). [2]


  Sebastion: divs work too on some browsers.  Some browsers (cough) IE will
  sometimes collapse them if they have no content.  I've  always had better
  luck with a transparent image.


 Good, I heard that before. I guess it was IE 5 or something. Don't how
 the MAC version of IE is (crap I guess).

 It looks good and works (Linux FF 3 and Opera 10).


Sebastian







 [1] Actually, the position is choosen relative (default) or absolute to
the next parent, that has a non-default `position'. This works in
all browsers.

Example:

div style=position:relative;  !-- nothing special, but rules --
 div style=position:absolute; top:-10px; right:-10px
  !-- close link and icon here --
 /div
/div

It's important, to add _no_ padding and _no_ margin to the elements
meant for positioning. Paddings and margins are handled
differently. IE does it all wrong then.


 [2] This here might work (not sure if this works, if we position the img
though. Maybe we'll have to position the link and use
display:block;):

* html a.logo-link {
   position: absolute;
   top: 0px;
   left: 0px;
   width: 190px;
   height: 190px;
}

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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn image is not a link back to the front page on orgmode.org

2009-06-24 Thread Bastien
Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:

 Greg Newman g...@20seven.org writes:
 You're welcome.Fixed works too.  Absolute can act goofy if the main body and
 starting div aren't set to absolute.  I should have known better.
 [1]

 Fixed will not work in IE. It will scroll out of view if you scroll the
 page.

 See the bottom of org.css on how add the `absolute' positioning for IE
 only (the simple way...). [2]

You guys are experts in this field - Sebastian, would you take a chance
and try to fix the logo-link class?  Only if you think it's worth the
trouble...  for now we have a link for most browsers, and this is *not*
a core feature...

@James: yes, you can feel guilty :)

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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn image is not a link back to the front page on orgmode.org

2009-06-24 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Jun 24, 2009, at 9:28 PM, Bastien wrote:


Sebastian Rose sebastian_r...@gmx.de writes:


Greg Newman g...@20seven.org writes:
You're welcome.Fixed works too.  Absolute can act goofy if the  
main body and

starting div aren't set to absolute.  I should have known better.

[1]

Fixed will not work in IE. It will scroll out of view if you scroll  
the

page.

See the bottom of org.css on how add the `absolute' positioning for  
IE

only (the simple way...). [2]


You guys are experts in this field - Sebastian, would you take a  
chance

and try to fix the logo-link class?  Only if you think it's worth the
trouble...  for now we have a link for most browsers, and this is  
*not*

a core feature...

@James: yes, you can feel guilty :)


What would be wrong with pulling the image out of the
background and making it directly clickable?

- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn-org-poetry

2009-06-12 Thread Bastien
Stefan Vollmar voll...@nf.mpg.de writes:

 please find attached a draft of a different graphical approach, derived
 from the original unicorn graphic by a simple thresholding  technique -
 naturally, it was captured as output from our favourite  editor.

I added it to the FAQ on Worg, thanks!

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[Orgmode] unicorn-org-poetry

2009-06-11 Thread Stefan Vollmar

Hallo,

On 09.06.2009, at 16:46, Bastien wrote:


Russell Adams rlad...@adamsinfoserv.com writes:


3. Please provide a logo (or screenshot, if you'd prefer) for your
project.  It should be at least 640x480, but we'll also be showing  
it

as a thumbnail.


Any ideas here? Bigger unicorn, or a screenshot?


A friend of mine did the graphical work for the first unicorn.

Maybe I can ping him and ask for a bigger/fancier Unicorn?

If so, what background symbolic directions shall I give him
to inspire a new/better Unicorn?



please find attached a draft of a different graphical approach,  
derived from the original unicorn graphic by a simple thresholding  
technique - naturally, it was captured as output from our favourite  
editor.


Warm regards,
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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn

2009-03-18 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Feb 28, 2009, at 1:34 AM, Sven Bretfeld wrote:


Hello to all

Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl writes:


I guess it is something like an official logo


But we need an image file, svg would be best. Is there one available?


There is now, in the git repo, I have made eps, pdf, and svg versions.

If someone is a better expert than me for this kind of thing, feel  
free to

make better ones, based on http://orgmode.org/img/nrocinu2.jpg

Here are the ones I made:

http://repo.or.cz/w/org-mode.git?a=tree;f=ORGWEBPAGE/img;h=b16fc08ad6de392481c64b5e2941eedf39dc93b3;hb=HEAD

- Carsten



Greetings,

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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn

2009-03-01 Thread Tim Burt
Christopher Suckling writes:
  
  On 27 Feb 2009, at 18:47, Russell Adams wrote:
  
   In the spirit of Org, we need a folding unicorn! ;]
  
  http://www.pajarita.org/aep/pajaritas/pajarita3-4.pdf

In the spirit of Org I made a fold*ed* unicorn.
   http://www.flickr.com/photos/tcburt/sets/72157614543357071/
The model is from Mythological Creatures and the Chinese Zodiac in
Origami by John Montroll.  The designers and developers of origami
models amaze me with their ingenuity and ability, which is a
strikingly similar sentiment I have for the org community.  

Tim


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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn

2009-02-27 Thread Bastien
Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl writes:

 I guess it is something like an official logo, yes (even though
 some people don't like it, I have seen it being called demasculinating
 ...)

Hehe...  Since I picked up this animal, I entirely assume any queer
connotation it may have.  The IT world is already masculine enough!

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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn

2009-02-27 Thread Carsten Dominik


On Feb 27, 2009, at 12:12 PM, Bastien wrote:


Carsten Dominik domi...@science.uva.nl writes:


I guess it is something like an official logo, yes (even though
some people don't like it, I have seen it being called  
demasculinating

...)


Hehe...  Since I picked up this animal, I entirely assume any queer
connotation it may have.  The IT world is already masculine enough!

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:-)

I like it, and I really do like the list of reasons
we have (in hindsight) for choosing it...

http://orgmode.org/worg/org-faq.php#unicorn


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Re: [Orgmode] unicorn

2009-02-26 Thread Carsten Dominik

Hi Raimund,

I guess it is something like an official logo, yes (even though
some people don't like it, I have seen it being called  
demasculinating ...)


You are welcome to use it for Org-related stuff.

- Carsten

On Feb 25, 2009, at 10:58 PM, Raimund Kohl-Füchsle wrote:


Hello there,

just a (stupid?) question: On the orgmode.org site there is the  
image of
a unicorn.  Is this the official Logo for org-mode?  I (finaly!)  
plan on
writing and publishing a little org-mode Manual and I would find it  
nice

to have a logo that connects to the project of org-mode.

Oh, and btw, if german guys from the list here are wanting to help,  
help

would be very welcome ... :-)

ray


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[Orgmode] unicorn

2009-02-25 Thread Raimund Kohl-Füchsle
Hello there,

just a (stupid?) question: On the orgmode.org site there is the image of
a unicorn.  Is this the official Logo for org-mode?  I (finaly!) plan on
writing and publishing a little org-mode Manual and I would find it nice
to have a logo that connects to the project of org-mode.

Oh, and btw, if german guys from the list here are wanting to help, help
would be very welcome ... :-)

ray


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