Re: Document management system with Org?
* Max Brieiev [2022-11-07 22:54]: > Org newbie here. > > Org advertizes itself as a note management and organizer system. > > How suitable is it to manage documents? That was my question too, when I tried to index 14000+ PDF pages. So I gave birth to Hyperscope for GNU Emacs. Problem is that I do not have software ready in public, but I can help with installing it. > Documents are files, usually in pdf format, stored as blobs on file > system. I need to attach some meta data to them. Like tags, for example, > 'invoice' or 'contract' or some random notes. Exactly. And user should be able to define the type of a document and use any kind of Markup. Recommended reading: About Dynamic Knowledge Repositories (DKR): https://www.dougengelbart.org/content/view/190/163/ ┌─┬─┬───┬───┐ │Type │ Sub-type │ Markup │ Count │ ├─┼─┼───┼───┤ │ Audio │ Default │ Default (Text) │ 106 │ │ Audio │ Song│ Default (Text) │17 │ │ Audio │ Call│ Default (Text) │ 2 │ │ Audio │ Voice │ Default (Text) │ 1 │ │ AVAILABLE │ Default │ Default (Text) │ 1 │ │ Backlink│ Default │ Default (Text) │ 257 │ │ Call│ Default │ Default (Text) │ 1 │ │ Call│ Task│ Default (Text) │ 1 │ │ CBR │ Default │ Default (Text) │ 1 │ │ Common Lisp │ Default │ Default (Text) │ 1 │ │ CSV │ Default │ Default (Text) │11 │ │ DB-ID │ Default │ Default (Text) │29 │ │ Directory │ Default │ Default (Text) │76 │ │ DISEASE │ Default │ Default (Text) │11 │ │ DJVU│ Default │ Default (Text) │27 │ │ Document│ Default │ Asciidoctor │99 │ │ Document│ Agreement │ Asciidoctor │20 │ │ Document│ Payslip │ Asciidoctor │11 │ │ Document│ Instructions│ Asciidoctor │ 9 │ │ Document│ Report │ Asciidoctor │ 8 │ │ Document│ Proposal│ Asciidoctor │ 7 │ │ Document│ Corporate Resolution│ Asciidoctor │ 4 │ │ Document│ Wealth Generation Plan │ Asciidoctor │ 4 │ │ Document│ Heralrdry │ Asciidoctor │ 3 │ │ Document│ WRS Page│ Asciidoctor │ 3 │ │ Document│ Partnership Offer │ Asciidoctor │ 3 │ │ Document│ Task│ Asciidoctor │ 2 │ │ Document│ Letterhead │ Asciidoctor │ 2 │ │ Document│ Offer │ Asciidoctor │ 2 │ │ Document│ Attachment │ Asciidoctor │ 2 │ │ Document│ Default │ Markdown (Discount) with Table of Content │ 1 │ │ Document│ Proposal│ Default (Text) │ 1 │ │ Document│ Public Bidding │ Asciidoctor │ 1 │ │ Document│ Quotation │ Asciidoctor
Re: Document management system with Org?
On Tue, Nov 08, 2022 at 06:32:32PM +0200, Max Brieiev wrote: > Thank you. This was very useful. > > Seems like attachments will work for me. > > Also seems like I can use org capture templates to record metadata for > different types of documents. > > Now I need to dig in to the Org manual... > Don't plan on using Org to manage the files (ie: folder layout/names), but if you want to take notes on files that works. For instance, for vendor exams I will read whitepapers and course material linking my org file to the original PDF. I use org-noter to let me take notes linked to the document in question! https://github.com/weirdNox/org-noter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un0ZRXTzufo It's worked great for me. -- Russell Adamsrlad...@adamsinfoserv.com https://www.adamsinfoserv.com/
Re: Document management system with Org?
Thank you. This was very useful. Seems like attachments will work for me. Also seems like I can use org capture templates to record metadata for different types of documents. Now I need to dig in to the Org manual...
Re: Document management system with Org?
hi max, welcome to org. org-roam has been suggested but i do not use it so i will not address that and will leave it to others. org is a good choice for this kind of thing, but it is not clear to me how much of it needs to be built on top of existing to get what you ask for. emacs is good at doing that, however. there are parts of org that are basically made for it. if you want to tag and then use agenda, that offers powerful features, as does the category property. one possible issue is remembering to tag. that is why i mostly don't use tags. but there is regexp search also. the manual is good. the agenda is sort of dired-like. it sounds like tags and catgegories might work for you. if you read about hte org-id system, that might help you to make unbreakable links should you need them. attachments were made for storing files. i don't use those because they don't add much value for me; i just use plain links and i use variables because file links in org run substitute-in-file-name as another possibility i haven't fully integrated, ** paths with glob links might in priniciple help if files stay in the general area but pathnames change. but attachments might work for you. they are actively used by many. they more or less do what you are asking. they are only for files, however. if you ever need more than files, i forsee a need for some kind of system for syncing with generic links and external documnets and internal documents, something along hte lines of spookfox perhaps. but you seem to need only files. so attachments or file links might work for you with agenda and tags and categories. the org forest is hierarchical, which an hlpe you put your data in the same place. if you need to break that system, links, tags, and categories might help to keep your documents findable. there are also packges for transclusion. On 11/7/22, Max Brieiev wrote: > Org newbie here. > > Org advertizes itself as a note management and organizer system. > > How suitable is it to manage documents? > > Documents are files, usually in pdf format, stored as blobs on file > system. I need to attach some meta data to them. Like tags, for example, > 'invoice' or 'contract' or some random notes. > > I would also like to have a way to categorize a group of documents by > some criteria, e.g. by the name of a contractor. > > It would be good to have a dired-like interface to browse documents and > manipulate them: view/copy/delete/attach to email etc. > > What approach could I use for this? > Is there anything like that in Org ecosystem? > > Thanks. > > -- The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com
Re: Document management system with Org?
I use orgroam for this sort of thing: https://www.orgroam.com/ In fact, I manage most of my org files with orgroam. -- Bill On Mon, Nov 7, 2022 at 9:52 PM Max Brieiev wrote: > Org newbie here. > > Org advertizes itself as a note management and organizer system. > > How suitable is it to manage documents? > > Documents are files, usually in pdf format, stored as blobs on file > system. I need to attach some meta data to them. Like tags, for example, > 'invoice' or 'contract' or some random notes. > > I would also like to have a way to categorize a group of documents by > some criteria, e.g. by the name of a contractor. > > It would be good to have a dired-like interface to browse documents and > manipulate them: view/copy/delete/attach to email etc. > > What approach could I use for this? > Is there anything like that in Org ecosystem? > > Thanks. > >
Document management system with Org?
Org newbie here. Org advertizes itself as a note management and organizer system. How suitable is it to manage documents? Documents are files, usually in pdf format, stored as blobs on file system. I need to attach some meta data to them. Like tags, for example, 'invoice' or 'contract' or some random notes. I would also like to have a way to categorize a group of documents by some criteria, e.g. by the name of a contractor. It would be good to have a dired-like interface to browse documents and manipulate them: view/copy/delete/attach to email etc. What approach could I use for this? Is there anything like that in Org ecosystem? Thanks.
