Re: [BUG in org master?]
> Uwe Brauer writes: > Just to make sure I'm not misundertanding: did you try to re-indent the > whole file? You say "when I opened my org file in question I still > saw…", so I'm not sure if you tried to re-indent, or if you merely set > org-adapt-indentation and expected the file to be automatically > re-indented after opening it again. > If the :PROPERTIES: drawer is not indented after doing the following: > M-: (setq org-adapt-indentation 'headline-data) > C-x h > M-: (indent-for-tab-command) > … then yes, there is a bug. I did all this and it *did not* indent! So I shall write a BUG report > Sure, the reason why it is (now) nil by default is because a fair number > of users on this list have told Org maintainers that they dislike > indented text. > Note that there is a difference between org-adapt-indentation set to t, > and org-indent-mode: > - org-adapt-indentation uses *hard* indentation (Emacs inserts > whitespace which is written to the file), > - org-indent-mode uses *soft* or "visual" indentation (Emacs adds text > properties to shift the text, but no whitespace is written to the > file). Thanks for clarifying smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [BUG in org master?]
Uwe Brauer writes: > [[S/MIME Signed Part:Undecided]] > >> Uwe Brauer writes: > > >> What is the setting for electric-indent-mode in the org buffer? > > , > | electric-indent-mode is a variable defined in ‘electric.el’. > | > | Its value is nil > | Original value was t > ` > > Not sure why its original value was t, I don't remember to have used > that, but I might be mistaken. > > Electric indent mode was set to t in emacs 26 or 25. At the time, org did not honour the setting of electric indent mode. A lot of the confusion around changes to indentation and org-adapt-indentation has arisen due to changes in org mode to make it compatible with other emacs modes i.e. make it honour the setting of electric-indent-mode. While I think this was the right move for the long-term as it makes org mode behave like other modes, I don't think the impact from this change was fully understood at the time. This has led to considerable confusion and changes in default settings for org-adapt-indentation to reduce the friction for users. While the outcome has likely made org mode more consistent for new users, it has caused some issues for existing users and it may take some time for the shock waves to dissipate. > >> Also, does org-lint give any warnings about your org file? > > No, I just checked. > >> The effect of org-adapt-indentation is somewhat confusing to say the >> least. The effect of that setting is also dependent on the setting for >> electric-indent-mode. Getting the desired result often depends on having >> the right setting for both that variable and electric-indent-mode. I've >> also found that in some cases, if there are errors in your org file (as >> found by org-lint) then everything can go a bit weird as well. > > Very odd, maybe I will turn org-indent-mode on just in this buffer. > > There has been a number of threads about this and org-adapt-indentation over the last 12 months or so. You might find some help looking through some of those threads.
Re: [BUG in org master?]
> Uwe Brauer writes: > What is the setting for electric-indent-mode in the org buffer? , | electric-indent-mode is a variable defined in ‘electric.el’. | | Its value is nil | Original value was t ` Not sure why its original value was t, I don't remember to have used that, but I might be mistaken. > Also, does org-lint give any warnings about your org file? No, I just checked. > The effect of org-adapt-indentation is somewhat confusing to say the > least. The effect of that setting is also dependent on the setting for > electric-indent-mode. Getting the desired result often depends on having > the right setting for both that variable and electric-indent-mode. I've > also found that in some cases, if there are errors in your org file (as > found by org-lint) then everything can go a bit weird as well. Very odd, maybe I will turn org-indent-mode on just in this buffer. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [BUG in org master?]
Tim Cross writes: > The effect of org-adapt-indentation is somewhat confusing to say the > least. The effect of that setting is also dependent on the setting for > electric-indent-mode. Getting the desired result often depends on having > the right setting for both that variable and electric-indent-mode. In case that can clear things up: - org-adapt-indentation dictates what the "canonical" indentation should be, i.e. what happens when you select the whole text and M-: (indent-for-tab-command): - nil (default as of 9.5): nothing is indented; - t (default before 9.5): drawers and text are indented; - 'headline-data: drawers are indented. - electric-indent-mode dictates *what key* causes automatic indentation: - nil: C-j indents, RET does not, - t: C-j does not indent, RET does.
Re: [BUG in org master?]
Uwe Brauer writes: >> In Org 9.5, setting org-adapt-indentation to 'headline-data makes >> :DRAWERS: indented (setting it to t makes everything but headlines >> indented). > > Thanks, but it did not work. I set the variable > org-adapt-indentation to 'headline-data makes > > > But when I opened my org file in question I still saw > > * TODO G1 <2021-10-21 jue 17:10> :H1:G1: Uwe Brauer > :PROPERTIES: > :ID: > :EMAIL: o...@mat.ucm.es > :Grp1: G1 > :Usuario1: Uwe Brauer > :email1: o...@mat.ucm.es > :Speaker: Uwe > :End: > > Even restarting emacs did not help. > > I am running emacs 28 (master) > 83a915d3dfafd5f3d737afe1e13b75e4dd3aef96 > > And org master compiled two days ago. Just to make sure I'm not misundertanding: did you try to re-indent the whole file? You say "when I opened my org file in question I still saw…", so I'm not sure if you tried to re-indent, or if you merely set org-adapt-indentation and expected the file to be automatically re-indented after opening it again. If the :PROPERTIES: drawer is not indented after doing the following: M-: (setq org-adapt-indentation 'headline-data) C-x h M-: (indent-for-tab-command) … then yes, there is a bug. > Setting the variable to t seems to be the same case using > org-indent-mode, which is usually try to avoid. Sure, the reason why it is (now) nil by default is because a fair number of users on this list have told Org maintainers that they dislike indented text. Note that there is a difference between org-adapt-indentation set to t, and org-indent-mode: - org-adapt-indentation uses *hard* indentation (Emacs inserts whitespace which is written to the file), - org-indent-mode uses *soft* or "visual" indentation (Emacs adds text properties to shift the text, but no whitespace is written to the file).
Re: [BUG in org master?] (was: how to indent (or refill) properties)
Uwe Brauer writes: > [[S/MIME Signed Part:Undecided]] "KLG" == Kévin Le Gouguec writes: > > Thanks > >> Uwe Brauer writes: >>> But I would like them to be indented like this >>> >>> ** DONE G1 >>> :H1:G1: >>> :PROPERTIES: > >> In Org 9.5, setting org-adapt-indentation to 'headline-data makes >> :DRAWERS: indented (setting it to t makes everything but headlines >> indented). > > Thanks, but it did not work. I set the variable > org-adapt-indentation to 'headline-data makes > > > But when I opened my org file in question I still saw > > * TODO G1 <2021-10-21 jue 17:10> :H1:G1: Uwe Brauer > :PROPERTIES: > :ID: > :EMAIL: o...@mat.ucm.es > :Grp1: G1 > :Usuario1: Uwe Brauer > :email1: o...@mat.ucm.es > :Speaker: Uwe > :End: > > Even restarting emacs did not help. > > I am running emacs 28 (master) > 83a915d3dfafd5f3d737afe1e13b75e4dd3aef96 > > And org master compiled two days ago. > > So is this a BUG? > > > > Setting the variable to t seems to be the same case using > org-indent-mode, which is usually try to avoid. > What is the setting for electric-indent-mode in the org buffer? Also, does org-lint give any warnings about your org file? The effect of org-adapt-indentation is somewhat confusing to say the least. The effect of that setting is also dependent on the setting for electric-indent-mode. Getting the desired result often depends on having the right setting for both that variable and electric-indent-mode. I've also found that in some cases, if there are errors in your org file (as found by org-lint) then everything can go a bit weird as well.
