Re: [O] calculation question

2011-07-18 Thread Bastien
Hi Jude,

Please type C-c } on a table -- it displays coordinates of the 
cells so that you can more easily refer to the right one.

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] calculation question

2011-07-18 Thread Bart Bunting
Hi Bastien,

I presume Jude is using emacspeak with org-mode.

I also use emacspeak.

I have noticed that emacspeak does not read anything done using
overlays.  I am presuming the column and row labels are done this way.

It also means that we can't use column view either as far as I know.

This as I understand it is not really an issue for org-mode but a
current emacspeak limitation.

I'm sure like all things emacs that this can be fixed given enough elisp
knowledge.  Perhaps it's worth Jude or I asking on the emacspeak list
for some advice as to how to solve this problem.


Kind regards

Bart

 

On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 01:10:09 +0200, Bastien  wrote:
> Hi Jude,
> 
> Please type C-c } on a table -- it displays coordinates of the 
> cells so that you can more easily refer to the right one.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> -- 
>  Bastien
> 



Re: [O] calculation question

2011-07-19 Thread Bastien
Hi Bart,

Bart Bunting  writes:

> I have noticed that emacspeak does not read anything done using
> overlays.  I am presuming the column and row labels are done this way.

Yes, the references are displayed as an overlay.

> I'm sure like all things emacs that this can be fixed given enough elisp
> knowledge.  Perhaps it's worth Jude or I asking on the emacspeak list
> for some advice as to how to solve this problem.

Please do -- I'm not using emacspeak myself but I'm interested in
improving accessibility for tables.

Best regards,

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] calculation question

2011-07-19 Thread Jude DaShiell
After I use C-C } can I use c-p c-n c-l and c-r to move one cell up on 
cell down one cell left and one cell right respectively?

On Tue, 19 Jul 2011, Bastien wrote:

> Hi Jude,
> 
> Please type C-c } on a table -- it displays coordinates of the 
> cells so that you can more easily refer to the right one.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> 





Re: [O] calculation question

2011-07-19 Thread Bastien
Jude DaShiell  writes:

> After I use C-C } can I use c-p c-n c-l and c-r to move one cell up on 
> cell down one cell left and one cell right respectively?

You can use C-n C-p to move down and up by one line, but you cannot use
C-r and C-l are these are fundamental Emacs keybindings doing something
else.  

You can navigate through cells using TAB: it will go to the next cell on
the same row, or to the first cell on the next row if you are at the
last cell in a row.

HTH,

-- 
 Bastien



Re: [O] calculation question

2011-07-19 Thread Nick Dokos
Bastien  wrote:

> Jude DaShiell  writes:
> 
> > After I use C-C } can I use c-p c-n c-l and c-r to move one cell up on 
> > cell down one cell left and one cell right respectively?
> 
> You can use C-n C-p to move down and up by one line, but you cannot use
> C-r and C-l are these are fundamental Emacs keybindings doing something
> else.  
> 
> You can navigate through cells using TAB: it will go to the next cell on
> the same row, or to the first cell on the next row if you are at the
> last cell in a row.
> 

... and S-TAB to move in the other direction.

Nick



Re: [O] calculation question

2011-07-23 Thread Michael Brand
Hi Jude and Bart

On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:13, Bastien  wrote:
> Bart Bunting  writes:
>> I have noticed that emacspeak does not read anything done using
>> overlays.  I am presuming the column and row labels are done this way.
>
> Yes, the references are displayed as an overlay.

As an alternative to overlays used by "C-c }" on a table to display
the coordinate grid, I would suggest the attached patch that displays
the coordinates in the table editor "C-c `" like this:

#+begin_src org
#
# Edit field @2$3 and finish with C-c C-c
#
123
#+end_src

It also supports the org-table-follow-field-mode "C-u C-u C-c `" added
by Carsten two months ago:
http://orgmode.org/w/org-mode.git/commitdiff/bffdfeb7fcd6c094d44e754ace7ce28fab81f2ff

Michael


0001-Table-editor-Display-coordinates-of-current-field.patch
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Re: [O] calculation question

2011-07-27 Thread Bastien
Hi Michael,

Michael Brand  writes:

> As an alternative to overlays used by "C-c }" on a table to display
> the coordinate grid, I would suggest the attached patch that displays
> the coordinates in the table editor "C-c `" like this:
>
> #+begin_src org
> #
> # Edit field @2$3 and finish with C-c C-c
> #
> 123
> #+end_src

This is a neat addition, it enhances accessibility.

I've now applied this patch.

Thanks!

-- 
 Bastien