Re: [O] makefile for v. 7.9.1 on Windows 7 doesn't work
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:00 PM, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de wrote: John Hendy writes: [1] http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.html#compiling-org-without-make I've just fixed this to refer to mk/ rather than UTILITIES/. I don't really know where your other problems come from, but it seems that whatever you are invoking as emacs fails to properly set up the load path. You can try and replace the -L option with --directory. I'll definitely try this. Where should the load path point? My emacs dir, or the org git dir? Thanks! John Regards, Achim. -- +[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+ Factory and User Sound Singles for Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSounds
Re: [O] makefile for v. 7.9.1 on Windows 7 doesn't work
John Hendy writes: I don't really know where your other problems come from, but it seems that whatever you are invoking as emacs fails to properly set up the load path. You can try and replace the -L option with --directory. I'll definitely try this. Where should the load path point? My emacs dir, or the org git dir? What I meant was that if you add something to load-path via this option, make sure it actually turns up _first_ in the load-path. Like emacs -L blafasel should then have blafasel as the first component in load-path. If emacs is invoked via a wrapper scriptit may inject other options in places that subvert this. Another possibility is that an environment variable EMACS_LOADPATH is set (or gets set by some wrapper) when emacs is started, this would also explain why the load-path doesn't end up what it's supposed to be. Regards, Achim. -- +[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+ SD adaptation for Waldorf rackAttack V1.04R1: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada
Re: [O] makefile for v. 7.9.1 on Windows 7 doesn't work
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de wrote: John Hendy writes: I don't really know where your other problems come from, but it seems that whatever you are invoking as emacs fails to properly set up the load path. You can try and replace the -L option with --directory. I'll definitely try this. Where should the load path point? My emacs dir, or the org git dir? What I meant was that if you add something to load-path via this option, make sure it actually turns up _first_ in the load-path. Like emacs -L blafasel should then have blafasel as the first component in load-path. If emacs is invoked via a wrapper scriptit may inject other options in places that subvert this. Another possibility is that an environment variable EMACS_LOADPATH is set (or gets set by some wrapper) when emacs is started, this would also explain why the load-path doesn't end up what it's supposed to be. Thanks, Achim. I just now sent a fresh note to the list about this specific issue, as I pretty much derailed this into a discussion on that error. It seemed fitting to make a new thread and I included a lot more details. I think the issue comes down to the function =org-find-library-dir=, not the load path. I could be wrong. I don't know where =org-find-library-dir= is defined. From what I understand of the above, it still isn't working. I tried this: #+begin_src cmd emacs -batch -Q -L C:\path\to\org.git lisp -l ../mk/org-fixup.el -f org-make-autoloads-compile #+end_src John Regards, Achim. -- +[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+ SD adaptation for Waldorf rackAttack V1.04R1: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada
Re: [O] makefile for v. 7.9.1 on Windows 7 doesn't work
John Hendy writes: From what I understand of the above, it still isn't working. I tried this: #+begin_src cmd emacs -batch -Q -L C:\path\to\org.git lisp -l ../mk/org-fixup.el -f org-make-autoloads-compile #+end_src This is wrong. Try emacs -batch -Q -L lisp -l ../mk/org-fixup.el -f org-make-autoloads-compile You must do a cd C:\path\to\org.git before. Regards, Achim. -- +[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+ DIY Stuff: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/DIY.html
Re: [O] makefile for v. 7.9.1 on Windows 7 doesn't work
John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Achim Gratz strom...@nexgo.de wrote: John Hendy writes: I don't really know where your other problems come from, but it seems that whatever you are invoking as emacs fails to properly set up the load path. You can try and replace the -L option with --directory. I'll definitely try this. Where should the load path point? My emacs dir, or the org git dir? What I meant was that if you add something to load-path via this option, make sure it actually turns up _first_ in the load-path. Like emacs -L blafasel should then have blafasel as the first component in load-path. If emacs is invoked via a wrapper scriptit may inject other options in places that subvert this. Another possibility is that an environment variable EMACS_LOADPATH is set (or gets set by some wrapper) when emacs is started, this would also explain why the load-path doesn't end up what it's supposed to be. Thanks, Achim. I just now sent a fresh note to the list about this specific issue, as I pretty much derailed this into a discussion on that error. It seemed fitting to make a new thread and I included a lot more details. I think the issue comes down to the function =org-find-library-dir=, not the load path. I could be wrong. I don't know where =org-find-library-dir= is defined. C-h f org-find-library-dir RET shows that it's a macro in org-compat.el. Macros are a bit tricky -- see (info (elisp) Compiling macros) for the gory details. Might this be the problem here? Nick
Re: [O] makefile for v. 7.9.1 on Windows 7 doesn't work
Hi Bostjan, Bostjan Vilfan bjvil...@gmail.com writes: http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.html#compiling-org-without-make However, there are still some things I don't understand; there is this reference to the UTILITIES directory, which is absent in the distribution file for Windows. Yes, the Worg files were outdated. I updated them, using mk instead of UTILITIES. Thanks, -- Bastien
Re: [O] makefile for v. 7.9.1 on Windows 7 doesn't work
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Bostjan Vilfan bostj...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Hello, I notice that the makefile in version 7.9.1 has been changed (with regard to v. 7.8.11). When I tried to run it under Windows7, it didn't work (the makefile for 7.8.11 ran OK). Can anyone provide some information? Can you provide more information? The error, what you were doing, etc? The last time I git pulled perhaps a week or so ago, I tried following Worg like so:[1] ,--- | emacs -batch -Q -L lisp -l ../UTILITIES/org-fixup -f org-make-autoloads-compile `--- It failed. I inspected the dit directory and noticed that it's not ../UTILITIES anymore; all of the make stuff is in ../mk. Could that be the problem if you're following Worg? As an aside, I just tried re-compiling to check and I noticed that if I follow Worg and cd into /path/to/org.git/mk and then run =emace -batch ... ../mk/org-fixup.el ...=, I get the error: ,--- | Symbol's function definition is void: org-find-library-dir `--- If I cd to /path/to/org.git and run the command with only one perios (=emacs ... ./mk/org-fixup.el ...=), then it works. But =M-x org-version= spits out something related to org-fixup and isn't a real version number. In any case, I can still compile as far as I know. Sorry if this wasn't your issue, but with the lack of details no one will be able to help you diagnose the problem. Best regards, John [1] http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.html#compiling-org-without-make Regards, bostjanv
Re: [O] makefile for v. 7.9.1 on Windows 7 doesn't work
Hello, On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:33 AM, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Bostjan Vilfan bostj...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Hello, I notice that the makefile in version 7.9.1 has been changed (with regard to v. 7.8.11). When I tried to run it under Windows7, it didn't work (the makefile for 7.8.11 ran OK). Can anyone provide some information? Can you provide more information? The error, what you were doing, etc? The last time I git pulled perhaps a week or so ago, I tried following Worg like so:[1] ,--- | emacs -batch -Q -L lisp -l ../UTILITIES/org-fixup -f org-make-autoloads-compile `--- It failed. I inspected the dit directory and noticed that it's not ../UTILITIES anymore; all of the make stuff is in ../mk. Could that be the problem if you're following Worg? If the problem is related to the missing =UTILITIES= directory, the solution would seem to be just re-run the update. I had that issue on several machines, all of which complained the first time about the missing =UTILITIES= directory and then ran successfullly on the subsequent updates. As an aside, I just tried re-compiling to check and I noticed that if I follow Worg and cd into /path/to/org.git/mk and then run =emace -batch ... ../mk/org-fixup.el ...=, I get the error: ,--- | Symbol's function definition is void: org-find-library-dir `--- If I cd to /path/to/org.git and run the command with only one perios (=emacs ... ./mk/org-fixup.el ...=), then it works. But =M-x org-version= spits out something related to org-fixup and isn't a real version number. In any case, I can still compile as far as I know. Sorry if this wasn't your issue, but with the lack of details no one will be able to help you diagnose the problem. Best regards, John [1] http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.html#compiling-org-without-make Regards, bostjanv Regards, -- Jon
Re: [O] makefile for v. 7.9.1 on Windows 7 doesn't work
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Jonathan Leech-Pepin jonathan.leechpe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:33 AM, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Bostjan Vilfan bostj...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Hello, I notice that the makefile in version 7.9.1 has been changed (with regard to v. 7.8.11). When I tried to run it under Windows7, it didn't work (the makefile for 7.8.11 ran OK). Can anyone provide some information? Can you provide more information? The error, what you were doing, etc? The last time I git pulled perhaps a week or so ago, I tried following Worg like so:[1] ,--- | emacs -batch -Q -L lisp -l ../UTILITIES/org-fixup -f org-make-autoloads-compile `--- It failed. I inspected the dit directory and noticed that it's not ../UTILITIES anymore; all of the make stuff is in ../mk. Could that be the problem if you're following Worg? If the problem is related to the missing =UTILITIES= directory, the solution would seem to be just re-run the update. I had that issue on several machines, all of which complained the first time about the missing =UTILITIES= directory and then ran successfullly on the subsequent updates. Can someone else confirm? I'm just pulled again and have no UTILITIES dir. John As an aside, I just tried re-compiling to check and I noticed that if I follow Worg and cd into /path/to/org.git/mk and then run =emace -batch ... ../mk/org-fixup.el ...=, I get the error: ,--- | Symbol's function definition is void: org-find-library-dir `--- If I cd to /path/to/org.git and run the command with only one perios (=emacs ... ./mk/org-fixup.el ...=), then it works. But =M-x org-version= spits out something related to org-fixup and isn't a real version number. In any case, I can still compile as far as I know. Sorry if this wasn't your issue, but with the lack of details no one will be able to help you diagnose the problem. Best regards, John [1] http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.html#compiling-org-without-make Regards, bostjanv Regards, -- Jon
Re: [O] makefile for v. 7.9.1 on Windows 7 doesn't work
Hi John, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com writes: Can someone else confirm? I'm just pulled again and have no UTILITIES dir. I confirm there is no UTILITIES/ directory anymore. It has been rename as mk/ for git cloners, and it is absent from the .tar.gz and .zip. -- Bastien
Re: [O] makefile for v. 7.9.1 on Windows 7 doesn't work
On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Bastien b...@altern.org wrote: Hi John, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com writes: Can someone else confirm? I'm just pulled again and have no UTILITIES dir. I confirm there is no UTILITIES/ directory anymore. It has been rename as mk/ for git cloners, and it is absent from the .tar.gz and .zip. Any reason my compiliation would fail with the error `Symbol's function definition is void: org-find-library-dir` ? This happens from inside ~/org.git/mk, but if I adjust the compiliation path and run from ~/org.git instead, it appears to compile successfully. The other thread from the list I find when searching this error seems to suggest that a patch was applied in May to fix this (or at least another cause of this): - http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2012-05/msg00521.html Best regards, John -- Bastien
Re: [O] makefile for v. 7.9.1 on Windows 7 doesn't work
Hello, On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 9:05 AM, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Jonathan Leech-Pepin jonathan.leechpe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:33 AM, John Hendy jw.he...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Bostjan Vilfan bostj...@alum.mit.edu wrote: Hello, I notice that the makefile in version 7.9.1 has been changed (with regard to v. 7.8.11). When I tried to run it under Windows7, it didn't work (the makefile for 7.8.11 ran OK). Can anyone provide some information? Can you provide more information? The error, what you were doing, etc? The last time I git pulled perhaps a week or so ago, I tried following Worg like so:[1] ,--- | emacs -batch -Q -L lisp -l ../UTILITIES/org-fixup -f org-make-autoloads-compile `--- It failed. I inspected the dit directory and noticed that it's not ../UTILITIES anymore; all of the make stuff is in ../mk. Could that be the problem if you're following Worg? If the problem is related to the missing =UTILITIES= directory, the solution would seem to be just re-run the update. I had that issue on several machines, all of which complained the first time about the missing =UTILITIES= directory and then ran successfullly on the subsequent updates. Can someone else confirm? I'm just pulled again and have no UTILITIES dir. =UTILITIES/= was renamed =util/=, and then has since been moved to =mk/=. The results I had seen seemed to indicate that it couldn't find a script in UTILITIES/ so it could not continue (because it had been renamed but was being looked for in the old location). Running it a second time simply removed the confusion as to the location of the files and permitted the update to continue without issues. John As an aside, I just tried re-compiling to check and I noticed that if I follow Worg and cd into /path/to/org.git/mk and then run =emace -batch ... ../mk/org-fixup.el ...=, I get the error: ,--- | Symbol's function definition is void: org-find-library-dir `--- If I cd to /path/to/org.git and run the command with only one perios (=emacs ... ./mk/org-fixup.el ...=), then it works. But =M-x org-version= spits out something related to org-fixup and isn't a real version number. In any case, I can still compile as far as I know. Sorry if this wasn't your issue, but with the lack of details no one will be able to help you diagnose the problem. Best regards, John [1] http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.html#compiling-org-without-make Regards, bostjanv Regards, -- Jon
Re: [O] makefile for v. 7.9.1 on Windows 7 doesn't work
John Hendy writes: [1] http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.html#compiling-org-without-make I've just fixed this to refer to mk/ rather than UTILITIES/. I don't really know where your other problems come from, but it seems that whatever you are invoking as emacs fails to properly set up the load path. You can try and replace the -L option with --directory. Regards, Achim. -- +[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]+ Factory and User Sound Singles for Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSounds
Re: [O] makefile for v. 7.9.1 on Windows 7 doesn't work
Hello, Thanks for all the answers. It seems that my problem was that I was not aware of some changes in the 7.9.1 version. I was finally able to make the 7.9.1 version operational by following the procedure in http://orgmode.org/worg/org-hacks.html#compiling-org-without-make However, there are still some things I don't understand; there is this reference to the UTILITIES directory, which is absent in the distribution file for Windows. I later found out that one has to run the set-up script in the top directory of the distribution file. Regards, bostjanv
