Re: [Orgmode] A puzzle to solve: saved categories vs. tags
On Oct 7, 2007, at 11:14, John Wiegley wrote: Ok, I have 147k of archived todos and notes now. Some are tagged, some are not. Most have an ARCHIVE_CATEGORY property (ever since Carsten so kindly implemented it). My desire: To hit C-u C-c \ and have it prompt me for the entity its going to search for. The possible entities are TAGS, or a property name. Then it asks for the text string, as usual. The result should make it possible for me to see all entries that came from a specific category or group of categories. If I understand correctly, this will be just for typing convenience? So that you do not have to fully type the property name? Because you can of course do this search as Bastien described. Also, should this result in a sparse tree, or in an agenda buffer? I guess you mean a sparse tree since you refer to `C-c \'. Here is a first attempt at such a function, comments are welcome! Maybe we should bind this function to `C-c /', instead of org-occur? - Carsten org-sparse-tree-interactive.el Description: Binary data -- Carsten Dominik Sterrenkundig Instituut Anton Pannekoek Universiteit van Amsterdam Kruislaan 403 NL-1098SJ Amsterdam phone: +31 20 525 7477___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] A puzzle to solve: saved categories vs. tags
On Oct 7, 2007, at 14:27, Bastien wrote: If Carsten implements this, I think all the search facilities in Org will need a bit of uniformization/clarification. Admittedly the search functions are one of the areas that demonstrate most clearly how Org-mode has grown and evolved, adding little things. Could use a complete re-write, but there is no time for this. For now we have: | key | function | knows about| C-u | |-+--++--| | C-c / | org-occur| regexp | | | C-c \ | org-tags-sparse-tree | tags, and more | restrict to TODO | | C-c C-v | org-show-todo-tree | todo keywords | ask for keyword | A few ideas about this: 1. I tend to use C-c \ a lot than C-c / -- but I find the C-c / key much more convenient. I guess it's far too late to switch, but still. I guess you use a French keyboard? On mine both are equally easily accessed. 2. AFAIK org-tags-sparse-tree is more powerful than org-show-todo-tree. If we add the possibility to build interactive queries, it will definitely become *the* universal search interface for Org. That is true, but newbies will start with simple things, and it is good to have simple commands to start off. Thanks for the list of search options, a good start. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] A puzzle to solve: saved categories vs. tags
John Wiegley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Search for a regexp 2. Search for a complex query 3. Prompt interactively for a complex query 4. Show all tagged entries 5. Prompt for a specific tag 6. Prompt for a specific tag (restricting to TODO entries) 7. Show all TODO entries 8. Prompt for a specific TODO 9. Prompt for a specific TODO (restricting to tagged entries) I didn't see Prompt for a specific property and value in your list. This would be the interactive (maybe prefix) version of search for a complex query. Is this already possible using a complex query? Re-quoting myself: , | As you probable know, you can already perform complex searches like: | | C-c \ [EMAIL PROTECTED]code/NEXT | | This will search for headlines with the tag Urgent, without the tag | @Work, with category code and which TODO keyword is NEXT. Yes, | that's quite complex and I guess we sometime prefer not to care about | the syntax of the query, but rather be prompted for it. ` Then to search for a specific pair of property-value: C-c \ PROPERTY=value As for now value should be the exact string, not a regexp. -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] A puzzle to solve: saved categories vs. tags
Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Here is a first attempt at such a function, comments are welcome! Maybe we should bind this function to `C-c /', instead of org-occur? Yes, this binding would be okay, unless there are lots of people using org-occur out there. And `org-sparse-tree' should match both John request and what I called (in such a bombastic manner) a universal search interface. There is a problem with (org-buffer-property-keys t t). Here is the backtrace: , | Debugger entered--Lisp error: (wrong-type-argument symbolp (TODO TAGS ALLTAGS DEADLINE SCHEDULED CLOCK PRIORITY Release Incompatible_ALL Elapsed_time Location LOCATION_ALL People_ALL COLUMNS LOCATION CATEGORY ARCHIVE)) | add-to-list((TODO TAGS ALLTAGS DEADLINE SCHEDULED CLOCK PRIORITY Release Incompatible_ALL Elapsed_time Location LOCATION_ALL People_ALL COLUMNS LOCATION CATEGORY ARCHIVE) CATEGORY) | org-buffer-property-keys(t t) | eval((org-buffer-property-keys t t)) | eval-expression((org-buffer-property-keys t t) nil) | call-interactively(eval-expression) ` -- Bastien ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] A puzzle to solve: saved categories vs. tags
On Oct 8, 2007, at 14:39, Bastien wrote: Carsten Dominik [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Arrrgh! make that (org-buffer-property-keys t) for now, bug fix in next release. This patch is also needed: Indeed, thanks a lot. So to make this simpler, here is the modified version that should work out of the box. Sorry once again for the mess and the bandwidth waste. - Carsten org-sparse-tree-interactive.el Description: Binary data ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] A puzzle to solve: saved categories vs. tags
On Oct 7, 2007, at 14:27, Bastien wrote: If Carsten implements this, I think all the search facilities in Org will need a bit of uniformization/clarification. Admittedly the search functions are one of the areas that demonstrate most clearly how Org-mode has grown and evolved, adding little things. For now we have: | key | function | knows about| C-u | |-+--++--| | C-c / | org-occur| regexp | | | C-c \ | org-tags-sparse-tree | tags, and more | restrict to TODO | | C-c C-v | org-show-todo-tree | todo keywords | ask for keyword | A few ideas about this: 1. I tend to use C-c \ a lot than C-c / -- but I find the C-c / key much more convenient. I guess it's far too late to switch, but still. I guess you use a French keyboard? On mine both are equally easily accessed. 2. AFAIK org-tags-sparse-tree is more powerful than org-show-todo-tree. If we add the possibility to build interactive queries, it will definitely become *the* universal search interface for Org. That is true, but newbies will start with simple things, and it is good to have simple commands to start off. Thanks for the list of search options, a good start. - Carsten -- Carsten Dominik Sterrenkundig Instituut Anton Pannekoek Universiteit van Amsterdam Kruislaan 403 NL-1098SJ Amsterdam phone: +31 20 525 7477 ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] A puzzle to solve: saved categories vs. tags
Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Search for a regexp 2. Search for a complex query 3. Prompt interactively for a complex query 4. Show all tagged entries 5. Prompt for a specific tag 6. Prompt for a specific tag (restricting to TODO entries) 7. Show all TODO entries 8. Prompt for a specific TODO 9. Prompt for a specific TODO (restricting to tagged entries) I didn't see Prompt for a specific property and value in your list. Is this already possible using a complex query? John ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
