Re: [Orgmode] Feature request: Select links by description [7.4]

2011-02-14 Thread Dave Abrahams
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:14 PM, Bastien  wrote:
> Dave Abrahams  writes:
>
>> How about just always showing the link as it will be presented to the
>> user first, followed by the raw link?  Then everything will be
>> consistent.
>
> I don't see how it would prevent the problem I've been mentionning: we
> will still have a mix of descriptions and raw links... or maybe I miss
> something?

If it's really paramount to avoid a mixture, you must hide all
descriptions, which would be a step in the wrong direction for me.

> I'm willing to improve the display of links, keep brainstorming!

I'm out of ideas.  Leading off with the displayed form of the link is
the best I can do.

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Re: [Orgmode] Feature request: Select links by description [7.4]

2011-02-14 Thread Bastien
Hi Dave,

Dave Abrahams  writes:

> How about just always showing the link as it will be presented to the
> user first, followed by the raw link?  Then everything will be
> consistent.

I don't see how it would prevent the problem I've been mentionning: we
will still have a mix of descriptions and raw links... or maybe I miss
something?

I'm willing to improve the display of links, keep brainstorming!

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Re: [Orgmode] Feature request: Select links by description [7.4]

2011-02-14 Thread Dave Abrahams
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 5:17 AM, Bastien  wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> Dave Abrahams  writes:
>
>> Since you asked: put the descriptions first.
>
> The only problem I see with this solution is that it will end up mixing
> descriptions (+raw link) and raw links (with no description), this might
> be confusing.
>
> Perhaps we can let the user decide how he wants the available links to
> be displayed.
>
> I welcome other input about this!

How about just always showing the link as it will be presented to the
user first, followed by the raw link?  Then everything will be
consistent.


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Re: [Orgmode] Feature request: Select links by description [7.4]

2011-02-14 Thread Bastien
Hi Dave,

Dave Abrahams  writes:

> Since you asked: put the descriptions first.  

The only problem I see with this solution is that it will end up mixing
descriptions (+raw link) and raw links (with no description), this might
be confusing.

Perhaps we can let the user decide how he wants the available links to
be displayed.

I welcome other input about this!

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Re: [Orgmode] Feature request: Select links by description [7.4]

2011-02-13 Thread Dave Abrahams
On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 7:05 AM, Bastien  wrote:
> Hi Dave,
>
> Dave Abrahams  writes:
>
>> When using org-insert-link, it would be far better for me to have it
>> show me the _descriptions_ of links (the default link text), rather
>> than showing me the links themselves.  This is especially true of
>> email links, which are generally long and unintelligible by
>> themselves.
>>
>> I have something set up that stores a link to every email I send, so I
>> can easily link to follow-ups in my active Org items.  As a result, I
>> end up with *lots* of stored links, which makes this a real struggle.
>
> `org-insert-link' *does* already displays the description of the links
> like this:
>
> http://orgmode.org (Org Mode website)
> http://orgmode.org/worg/ (Worg website)
>
> The description is within the parenthese.
>
> I think it's good to have both the link *and* the description.
>
> What would be a better way of presenting the description?


Since you asked: put the descriptions first.  The links I store are
fairly complicated: they bring up a virtual folder containing all the
messages in the thread of the message I just sent, with the message
itself selected.  I'm sure the descriptions don't show up at all
because they get pushed off the right edge of the window.


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Re: [Orgmode] Feature request: Select links by description [7.4]

2011-02-11 Thread Bastien
Hi Dave,

Dave Abrahams  writes:

> When using org-insert-link, it would be far better for me to have it
> show me the _descriptions_ of links (the default link text), rather
> than showing me the links themselves.  This is especially true of
> email links, which are generally long and unintelligible by
> themselves.
>
> I have something set up that stores a link to every email I send, so I
> can easily link to follow-ups in my active Org items.  As a result, I
> end up with *lots* of stored links, which makes this a real struggle.

`org-insert-link' *does* already displays the description of the links
like this:

http://orgmode.org (Org Mode website)
http://orgmode.org/worg/ (Worg website)

The description is within the parenthese.

I think it's good to have both the link *and* the description.

What would be a better way of presenting the description?

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