Re: [Orgmode] Language question
Wow, I am blown away by the flood of answers with various degrees of explanations. Thank you all very much. - Carsten On Dec 10, 2008, at 6:05 PM, Peter Frings wrote: On 10 Dec 2008, at 17:13, Womick, Don wrote: 's always indicates possession, never plurality. I don't think there's a hard-and-fast choice between "IDs" and "ids", but "IDs" looks better to me, since it's clear that you're using an abbreviation. But if you write "id" (singular), be consistent and write "ids" (plural). I'm not a native English speaker, but since the Chicago Manual of Style is within reach... About the plural: * Letters, nouns coinages, numbers: So far as it can be done without confusion, single or multiple letters used as words, hyphenated coinages used as nouns, and numbers (wether spelled out or in figures) firm the plural by adding s alone: the three Rs YMCAs ... * Abbreviations with periods, lowercase letters used as nouns, and capital letters that would be confusing if /s/ alone were added form the plural with an apostrohpe and an s: Ph.D's x's and y's SOS's ... About the capitalization: I can't find it right now (might have read it somewhere else), but I think the rule is rather simple: Acronyms should be written in uppercase when they are spelled out in speech, e.g. ID (Ey-Dee). When they're being used as words, they're written in lowercase, e.g., 'radar'. Combining the two, I think it's "IDs". Cheers, Peter. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Language question
Hi Carsten, "IDs" is correct. Some older manuals of style suggest using "ID's", but "IDs" is the most widely accepted plural form of the abbreviation. Matt Carsten Dominik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > this is a question to the native English speakers out there. > > If I write in the documentation > >"Cross referencing with unique IDs is hard to document" > > do I then write > > ids > IDs > id's > or ID's > > > > Thanks. > > - Carsten > > > > > > ___ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Language question
On 10 Dec 2008, at 17:13, Womick, Don wrote: 's always indicates possession, never plurality. I don't think there's a hard-and-fast choice between "IDs" and "ids", but "IDs" looks better to me, since it's clear that you're using an abbreviation. But if you write "id" (singular), be consistent and write "ids" (plural). I'm not a native English speaker, but since the Chicago Manual of Style is within reach... About the plural: * Letters, nouns coinages, numbers: So far as it can be done without confusion, single or multiple letters used as words, hyphenated coinages used as nouns, and numbers (wether spelled out or in figures) firm the plural by adding s alone: the three Rs YMCAs ... * Abbreviations with periods, lowercase letters used as nouns, and capital letters that would be confusing if /s/ alone were added form the plural with an apostrohpe and an s: Ph.D's x's and y's SOS's ... About the capitalization: I can't find it right now (might have read it somewhere else), but I think the rule is rather simple: Acronyms should be written in uppercase when they are spelled out in speech, e.g. ID (Ey-Dee). When they're being used as words, they're written in lowercase, e.g., 'radar'. Combining the two, I think it's "IDs". Cheers, Peter. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Language question
Hi Carsten, If you write "IDs", it is correct. Please do not be misled by my having written "org-id's". "ID's" used to be correct, but no longer. I was treating org-id as a variable, and org-ids would have been confusing. I often type in lowercase and then capitalize sentences before sending. The apostrophe was a fast way of disambiguating. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
RE: [Orgmode] Language question
's always indicates possession, never plurality. I don't think there's a hard-and-fast choice between "IDs" and "ids", but "IDs" looks better to me, since it's clear that you're using an abbreviation. But if you write "id" (singular), be consistent and write "ids" (plural). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carsten Dominik Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 10:18 AM To: emacs org-mode mailing list Subject: [Orgmode] Language question Hi, this is a question to the native English speakers out there. If I write in the documentation "Cross referencing with unique IDs is hard to document" do I then write ids IDs id's or ID's Thanks. - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
