Re: [Orgmode] Re: Again on bookmarks

2009-11-26 Thread Samuel Wales
Hi Thierry,

On 2009-11-26, Thierry Volpiatto thierry.volpia...@gmail.com wrote:
 See BookmarkExtension:
 http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs/BookmarkExtension

 It support now nearly all:
 emacs-w3m bookmarks, Firefox bookmarks, Delicious bookmarks, Gnus
 bookmarks, Man pages etc...

The reason I like the idea of using org as the central store is that
it holds a lot of information, including annotations (headline body
text), subheadings, tags, properties, etc.  Possibly even
last-modified date of the web page and last-synced.  It can also be
subsetted using the agenda.

The idea would be that when you, say, save all Firefox tabs that are
currently open to a Firefox bookmark folder, you can export that whole
folder to org.  Then, you can add annotations, move the headlines
anywhere in the agenda files hierarchy, export from org to w3m or
Firefox or Safari (using the agenda to subset), and reimport back to
org without losing the annotations (new browser tabs (web pages) that
org does not know about yet end up in a special place in the org
hierarchy while existing ones sync with existing headlines).

Can the emacs bookmark mechanism serialize all that org data?  If not,
perhaps org would be a good place to store everything.

Maybe we have different ideas, which deserve different implementations?


Samuel

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Again on bookmarks

2009-11-26 Thread Samuel Wales
On 2009-11-26, Thierry Volpiatto thierry.volpia...@gmail.com wrote:
 reimport back to
 org without losing the annotations (new browser tabs (web pages) that
 org does not know about yet end up in a special place in the org
 hierarchy while existing ones sync with existing headlines).

 You can actually store all Firefox bookmarks to a org file.
 Not a specific Firefox bookmark folder (that can be done though).

If the link is already in an org file, will it update the dates and
avoid adding it to org elsewhere?  Otherwise every time you store to
an org file, you add duplicate entries.

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Q: How many CDC scientists does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: You only think it's dark. [CDC has denied ME/CFS for 25 years]
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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Again on bookmarks

2009-11-26 Thread Thierry Volpiatto
Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes:

 Hi Thierry,

 On 2009-11-26, Thierry Volpiatto thierry.volpia...@gmail.com wrote:
 See BookmarkExtension:
 http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs/BookmarkExtension

 It support now nearly all:
 emacs-w3m bookmarks, Firefox bookmarks, Delicious bookmarks, Gnus
 bookmarks, Man pages etc...

 The reason I like the idea of using org as the central store is that
 it holds a lot of information, including annotations (headline body
 text), subheadings, tags, properties, etc.  Possibly even
 last-modified date of the web page and last-synced.  It can also be
 subsetted using the agenda.

The both are complementary i think.
For Gnus, i use bookmark to quickly save a mail with (C-x r m), but i
also use Org with remember when i want to store more info (TODOS, notes
etc...)

 The idea would be that when you, say, save all Firefox tabs that are
 currently open to a Firefox bookmark folder, you can export that whole
 folder to org.  Then, you can add annotations, move the headlines
 anywhere in the agenda files hierarchy, export from org to w3m or
 Firefox or Safari (using the agenda to subset), and reimport back to
 org without losing the annotations (new browser tabs (web pages) that
 org does not know about yet end up in a special place in the org
 hierarchy while existing ones sync with existing headlines).

You can actually store all Firefox bookmarks to a org file.
Not a specific Firefox bookmark folder (that can be done though).

 Can the emacs bookmark mechanism serialize all that org data?  If not,
 perhaps org would be a good place to store everything.

For the moment, from firefox, i record only the title and url of
bookmarks.
however,i can record more infos if needed:
All infos that are provided by the firefox bookmarks.

 Maybe we have different ideas, which deserve different implementations?


 Samuel

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Re: [Orgmode] Re: Again on bookmarks

2009-11-26 Thread Thierry Volpiatto
Samuel Wales samolog...@gmail.com writes:

 On 2009-11-26, Thierry Volpiatto thierry.volpia...@gmail.com wrote:
 reimport back to
 org without losing the annotations (new browser tabs (web pages) that
 org does not know about yet end up in a special place in the org
 hierarchy while existing ones sync with existing headlines).

 You can actually store all Firefox bookmarks to a org file.
 Not a specific Firefox bookmark folder (that can be done though).

 If the link is already in an org file, will it update the dates and
 avoid adding it to org elsewhere?  Otherwise every time you store to
 an org file, you add duplicate entries.

Yes.

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Location: Saint-Cyr-Sur-Mer - France


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