Re: [Orgmode] Re: moving in the agenda view is slow
Hello all, I'm resurrecting an old (well, not that old) thread dealing with the agenda view being slow. I have now determined that, at least in my case, the problem is not with org but with the X server. On a dual screen setup, the agenda view is slow on one screen but shows instant response on the other, and this is for the same window: simply moving the window from one screen to another changes the performance. There is no way this could be org. I'm not sure what is happening with my X server but that's a problem outside the scope of this mailing list :-) -- : Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 23.2.1 : using Org-mode version 7.4 (release_7.4.25.geb0d) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: moving in the agenda view is slow
On Nov 30, 2010, at 1:30 PM, Eric S Fraga wrote: Sébastien Vauban writes: Hi Rainer, Rainer Stengele wrote: after disabling the showing of the outline path in agenda views: [...] What do you exactly mean by: "disabling the showing of the outline path in agenda views"? Best regards, Seb I think he means the display that appears in the mini-buffer showing the headline structure that leads to the particular element in the agenda view. This is fontified (quite nicely, actually) and I was suspecting that this is what was causing a slowdown on my system as well which is why I think the problem has something to do with the windowing system and fonts... To disable this feature, use (setq org-agenda-show-outline-path nil) - Carsten ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: moving in the agenda view is slow
Sébastien Vauban writes: > Hi Rainer, > > Rainer Stengele wrote: >> after disabling the showing of the outline path in agenda views: [...] > > What do you exactly mean by: "disabling the showing of the outline path in > agenda > views"? > > Best regards, > Seb I think he means the display that appears in the mini-buffer showing the headline structure that leads to the particular element in the agenda view. This is fontified (quite nicely, actually) and I was suspecting that this is what was causing a slowdown on my system as well which is why I think the problem has something to do with the windowing system and fonts... -- : Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 23.2.1 : using Org-mode version 7.3 (release_7.3.99.g9db0.dirty) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: moving in the agenda view is slow
Eric S Fraga writes: [...] > In any case, I will try all of this on Tuesday on my office system. Well, I've tried it and I get essentially the same results as I did on my home system. The behaviour that I observed last week seems to have disappeared. Although the change in behaviour could be due to org changing, I think it's actually my X window system driver which was acting up last week and it could have been causing problems with the font server... I'll re-run the timings if and when the slow behaviour appears again. In summary, moving within the agenda window is now as it used to be: fast! -- : Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 23.2.1 : using Org-mode version 7.3 (release_7.3.99.g9db0.dirty) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: moving in the agenda view is slow
Rainer Stengele wrote: > > scrolling with "n" and "p" runs smoothly now! Sigh! That means the > slowness is connected to my .emacs and org settings!? I'am afraid I > have to go through all the settings and find the culprit. > Great! That's real progress: in one fell swoop, you have eliminated 99.99% of the code that could be the culprit :-) However, it's not clear to me that it's your org settings: if the next-line sluggishness is real, then it's something in the emacs setup that causes it (again, unless there is some hidden connection back to org that I know nothing about). Nick ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: moving in the agenda view is slow
Am 28.11.2010 23:31, schrieb Nick Dokos: > Eric S Fraga wrote: > >> Nick Dokos writes: >> >> [...] >> >>> Eric, do you encounter this problem on Emacs/Windows XP as well? Has >>> anybody encountered this problem on anything *but* Emacs/Windows XP? >> All my systems run Linux (Debian testing+unstable mix) so it's not the >> OS. >> > OK, thanks. It also eliminates the window system (unless Rainer is running > X on Windows), so it looks like an emacs problem. > > Nick No, I am running Windows XP, native Windows Emacs "GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-11-04 on LENNART-69DE564 (patched)" Rainer ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: moving in the agenda view is slow
Eric S Fraga wrote: > Nick Dokos writes: > > [...] > > > Eric, do you encounter this problem on Emacs/Windows XP as well? Has > > anybody encountered this problem on anything *but* Emacs/Windows XP? > > All my systems run Linux (Debian testing+unstable mix) so it's not the > OS. > OK, thanks. It also eliminates the window system (unless Rainer is running X on Windows), so it looks like an emacs problem. Nick ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: moving in the agenda view is slow
Eric S Fraga wrote: > Okay, here are mine for 11 presses of the n command: > > --8<---cut here---start->8--- > org-agenda-next-line 11 0.063334 0.0057576363 > next-line11 0.033 0.003 > org-agenda-do-context-action 11 0.030161 0.002741 > org-display-outline-path 11 0.029602 0.0026910909 > org-get-outline-path 11 0.023259 0.0021144545 > org-up-heading-safe 44 0.022231 0.0005052727 > org-back-to-heading 44 0.000716 1.629...e-05 > org-format-outline-path 11 0.000484 4.409...e-05 > org-outline-level77 0.000479 6.220...e-06 > org-unhighlight 15 0.000189 1.266...e-05 > org-add-props33 9.399...e-05 2.848...e-06 > org-agenda-post-command-hook 15 4.499...e-05 2.999...e-06 > org-get-at-bol 11 3.9e-05 3.545...e-06 > org-detach-overlay 15 3.4e-05 2.266...e-06 > --8<---cut here---end--->8--- > > I'm not sure what conclusions to draw from here (but, again, this is on > my home system which seems much faster than my office system despite > being a slower computer with less memory etc). > > > PS Incidentally, note that in my case the next-line times account for > > about 40% of the org-agenda-next-line times: the other 60% is accounted > > for by org-agenda-do-context-action. In your original profile, the latter > > was insignificant: that's why I'd like to see the next-line results. > > And in mine, next-line is >50% of the time with the remainder being > org-agenda-do-context-action. What does this mean? > It's qualitatively different from Rainer's original profile. org-agenda-next-line calls next-line and then org-agenda-do-context-action. In Rainer's profile, the latter took almost no time, whereas in your faster system and also in mine, there is a roughly 50/50 (or 40/60) split. In Rainer's later profiles, it's a 100/0 split. That, along with the fact that the whole thing takes much longer (somewhere from 10x to 50x[fn:1]) leads to the conclusion that probably something is busted in next-line. So it doesn't mean much: just gathering sticks for now and maybe we can build a house with them (then again, maybe not). > In any case, I will try all of this on Tuesday on my office system. I'd be very interested to learn what you find out. Thanks, Nick Footnotes: [fn:1] this kind of variance bothers me, but I guess I'll have to live with it. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: moving in the agenda view is slow
Nick Dokos writes: [...] > I just tried the following sequence: > > o Start a new emacs > o M-x elp-instrument-package org > o M-x elp-instrument-function next-line > o C-c a a to get an agenda > o M-x elp-reset-all > o Press "n" 11 times (I just went over all the items for today). > o M-x elp-results > > and I get the following results: > > org-agenda-next-line 11 0.012638 0.0011489090 > org-agenda-do-context-action 11 0.007312 0.0006647272 > org-display-outline-path 10 0.006614 0.0006614 > next-line11 0.005075 0.0004613636 > org-get-outline-path 10 0.002875 0.0002875999 > org-up-heading-safe 20 0.002387 0.0001193500 > org-back-to-heading 20 0.000652 3.26e-05 > org-format-outline-path 10 0.000316 3.16e-05 > org-unhighlight 12 0.00023 1.916...e-05 > org-outline-level30 0.000179 5.966...e-06 > org-add-props10 7.199...e-05 7.199...e-06 > org-get-at-bol 11 6e-05 5.454...e-06 > org-detach-overlay 12 5.600...e-05 4.666...e-06 > org-agenda-post-command-hook 12 4.199...e-05 3.499...e-06 > > Can you try this and let me know if it's not working the same way? Okay, here are mine for 11 presses of the n command: --8<---cut here---start->8--- org-agenda-next-line 11 0.063334 0.0057576363 next-line11 0.033 0.003 org-agenda-do-context-action 11 0.030161 0.002741 org-display-outline-path 11 0.029602 0.0026910909 org-get-outline-path 11 0.023259 0.0021144545 org-up-heading-safe 44 0.022231 0.0005052727 org-back-to-heading 44 0.000716 1.629...e-05 org-format-outline-path 11 0.000484 4.409...e-05 org-outline-level77 0.000479 6.220...e-06 org-unhighlight 15 0.000189 1.266...e-05 org-add-props33 9.399...e-05 2.848...e-06 org-agenda-post-command-hook 15 4.499...e-05 2.999...e-06 org-get-at-bol 11 3.9e-05 3.545...e-06 org-detach-overlay 15 3.4e-05 2.266...e-06 --8<---cut here---end--->8--- I'm not sure what conclusions to draw from here (but, again, this is on my home system which seems much faster than my office system despite being a slower computer with less memory etc). > PS Incidentally, note that in my case the next-line times account for > about 40% of the org-agenda-next-line times: the other 60% is accounted > for by org-agenda-do-context-action. In your original profile, the latter > was insignificant: that's why I'd like to see the next-line results. And in mine, next-line is >50% of the time with the remainder being org-agenda-do-context-action. What does this mean? In any case, I will try all of this on Tuesday on my office system. -- : Eric S Fraga (GnuPG: 0xC89193D8FFFCF67D) in Emacs 23.2.1 : using Org-mode version 7.3 (release_7.3.148.gc3b7e) ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: moving in the agenda view is slow
Rainer Stengele wrote: > Am 28.11.2010 01:30, schrieb Nick Dokos: > > Rainer Stengele wrote: > > > >> Am 27.11.2010 20:23, schrieb Nick Dokos: > >>> ... > >>> Can you do M-x elp-instrument-function next-line and > >>> get another profile? > >>> > >> ok, I did, getting > >> > >> org-agenda-next-line 10 > >>0.864912 0.0864912 > >> org-unhighlight 14 > >>0.000875 6.257...e-05 > >> org-detach-overlay14 > >>0.000622 4.449...e-05 > >> org-agenda-do-context-action 10 > >>0.000274 2.74e-05 > >> org-get-at-bol10 > >>9.400...e-05 9.400...e-06 > >> org-agenda-post-command-hook 14 > >>7.5e-05 5.357...e-06 > >> > >> for 10 "next-lines", all in the agenda block of > >> > >> Monday 29 November 2010 W48 > >> > >> which means there is no date crossing. > >> What can I do to detail org-agenda-next-line? > >> > > Apparently, you didn't read my mail carefully enough: see above. > > > > Nick > Nick, > > sorry if I misunderstand, I tried again and get this: > > which probably is not what we expect to see? > What I do is: > being in the agenda I enter > M-x elp-instrument-function next-line > then enter "n" once and get: > > next-line 1 0.016 0.016 > > Thats really all I get. No more line than this one. > I just tried the following sequence: --8<---cut here---start->8--- o Start a new emacs o M-x elp-instrument-package org o M-x elp-instrument-function next-line o C-c a a to get an agenda o M-x elp-reset-all o Press "n" 11 times (I just went over all the items for today). o M-x elp-results --8<---cut here---end--->8--- and I get the following results: --8<---cut here---start->8--- org-agenda-next-line 11 0.012638 0.0011489090 org-agenda-do-context-action 11 0.007312 0.0006647272 org-display-outline-path 10 0.006614 0.0006614 next-line 11 0.005075 0.0004613636 org-get-outline-path 10 0.002875 0.0002875999 org-up-heading-safe 20 0.002387 0.0001193500 org-back-to-heading 20 0.000652 3.26e-05 org-format-outline-path 10 0.000316 3.16e-05 org-unhighlight 12 0.00023 1.916...e-05 org-outline-level 30 0.000179 5.966...e-06 org-add-props 10 7.199...e-05 7.199...e-06 org-get-at-bol11 6e-05 5.454...e-06 org-detach-overlay12 5.600...e-05 4.666...e-06 org-agenda-post-command-hook 12 4.199...e-05 3.499...e-06 --8<---cut here---end--->8--- Can you try this and let me know if it's not working the same way? Thanks, Nick PS Incidentally, note that in my case the next-line times account for about 40% of the org-agenda-next-line times: the other 60% is accounted for by org-agenda-do-context-action. In your original profile, the latter was insignificant: that's why I'd like to see the next-line results. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: moving in the agenda view is slow
Am 28.11.2010 01:30, schrieb Nick Dokos: Rainer Stengele wrote: Am 27.11.2010 20:23, schrieb Nick Dokos: ... Can you do M-x elp-instrument-function next-line and get another profile? ok, I did, getting org-agenda-next-line 10 0.864912 0.0864912 org-unhighlight 14 0.000875 6.257...e-05 org-detach-overlay14 0.000622 4.449...e-05 org-agenda-do-context-action 10 0.000274 2.74e-05 org-get-at-bol10 9.400...e-05 9.400...e-06 org-agenda-post-command-hook 14 7.5e-05 5.357...e-06 for 10 "next-lines", all in the agenda block of Monday 29 November 2010 W48 which means there is no date crossing. What can I do to detail org-agenda-next-line? Apparently, you didn't read my mail carefully enough: see above. Nick Nick, sorry if I misunderstand, I tried again and get this: which probably is not what we expect to see? What I do is: being in the agenda I enter M-x elp-instrument-function next-line then enter "n" once and get: next-line 1 0.016 0.016 Thats really all I get. No more line than this one. Rainer ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] Re: moving in the agenda view is slow
Rainer Stengele wrote: > Am 27.11.2010 20:23, schrieb Nick Dokos: > > ... > > Can you do M-x elp-instrument-function next-line and > > get another profile? > > > ok, I did, getting > > org-agenda-next-line 10 > 0.864912 0.0864912 > org-unhighlight 14 > 0.000875 6.257...e-05 > org-detach-overlay14 > 0.000622 4.449...e-05 > org-agenda-do-context-action 10 > 0.000274 2.74e-05 > org-get-at-bol10 > 9.400...e-05 9.400...e-06 > org-agenda-post-command-hook 14 > 7.5e-05 5.357...e-06 > > for 10 "next-lines", all in the agenda block of > > Monday 29 November 2010 W48 > > which means there is no date crossing. > What can I do to detail org-agenda-next-line? > Apparently, you didn't read my mail carefully enough: see above. Nick ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
