Re: [Orgmode] Why not emacs -Q for byte-compiling org-mode in the Makefile

2009-05-05 Thread Carsten Dominik

Done, thanks.

I am using -no-site-file instead of --no-site-file, this seems to  
works best

with different Emacsen..

- Carsten

On May 4, 2009, at 5:36 PM, Tassilo Horn wrote:


David Bremner  writes:


is there a specific reason that the Makefile uses emacs -q and not
emacs -Q for byte-compiling org-mode?


this is a good idea, but -Q is not understood by XEmacs, and I am  
not

even sure about Emacs 22.


at least for Emacs 22, it works.  XEmacs apparently has
"-no-site-file" as equivalent to "--no-site-init", so it would be
possible to do something similar.


Yeah, -Q is equivalent to -q --no-site-file, so the latter could be  
used

and still we're compatible with emacs 22/23 & xemacs.

Bye,
Tassilo
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Nick Dokos: Re: [Orgmode] Why not emacs -Q for byte-compiling org-mode in the Makefile

2009-05-04 Thread Nick Dokos
[D'oh: I replied to Carsten only - sorry about that.]
 
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Date:Sun, 03 May 2009 16:27:15 -0400
From:Nick Dokos 
To:  Carsten Dominik 
cc:  nicholas.do...@hp.com
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Why not emacs -Q for byte-compiling org-mode in the Make
  file 

Carsten Dominik  wrote:

> On May 3, 2009, at 9:29 PM, Tassilo Horn wrote:
> > is there a specific reason that the Makefile uses emacs -q and not
> > emacs
> > -Q for byte-compiling org-mode?
> 
> this is a good idea, but -Q is not understood by XEmacs, and I
> am not even sure about Emacs 22.
> 

emacs-22 groks -Q (or in long form: --no-init-file --no-site-file
- --no-splash).  xemacs21[1] seems to use long form options with a single
dash: -no-init-file (== -q) and -no-site-file.

The thing is that (with git) it's easy to make such changes locally,
while waiting (perhaps for ever !-) for upstream: have a local branch
with a few changes that are specific to the local setup and rebase
after a pull.

Nick

[1] According to an online manpage: http://linux.die.net/man/1/xemacs

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Re: [Orgmode] Why not emacs -Q for byte-compiling org-mode in the Makefile

2009-05-04 Thread Tassilo Horn
David Bremner  writes:

>> > is there a specific reason that the Makefile uses emacs -q and not
>> > emacs -Q for byte-compiling org-mode?
>>
>> this is a good idea, but -Q is not understood by XEmacs, and I am not
>> even sure about Emacs 22.
>
> at least for Emacs 22, it works.  XEmacs apparently has
> "-no-site-file" as equivalent to "--no-site-init", so it would be
> possible to do something similar.

Yeah, -Q is equivalent to -q --no-site-file, so the latter could be used
and still we're compatible with emacs 22/23 & xemacs.

Bye,
Tassilo
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Re: [Orgmode] Why not emacs -Q for byte-compiling org-mode in the Makefile

2009-05-04 Thread Carsten Dominik


On May 4, 2009, at 2:17 PM, David Bremner wrote:



At Sun, 3 May 2009 21:52:05 +0200,
Carsten Dominik wrote:

On May 3, 2009, at 9:29 PM, Tassilo Horn wrote:

is there a specific reason that the Makefile uses emacs -q and not
emacs
-Q for byte-compiling org-mode?


this is a good idea, but -Q is not understood by XEmacs, and I
am not even sure about Emacs 22.


at least for Emacs 22, it works.  XEmacs apparently has
"-no-site-file" as equivalent to "--no-site-init", so it would be
possible to do something similar. Of course then you have switches
depending on Emacs family, and I could see that being too much
trouble.


Yes, I prefer to just keep -q which is compatible.  Otherwise the  
installation instructions will become more complicated.


- Carsten



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Re: [Orgmode] Why not emacs -Q for byte-compiling org-mode in the Makefile

2009-05-04 Thread David Bremner

At Sun, 3 May 2009 21:52:05 +0200,
Carsten Dominik wrote:
> On May 3, 2009, at 9:29 PM, Tassilo Horn wrote:
> > is there a specific reason that the Makefile uses emacs -q and not
> > emacs
> > -Q for byte-compiling org-mode?
>
> this is a good idea, but -Q is not understood by XEmacs, and I
> am not even sure about Emacs 22.

at least for Emacs 22, it works.  XEmacs apparently has
"-no-site-file" as equivalent to "--no-site-init", so it would be
possible to do something similar. Of course then you have switches
depending on Emacs family, and I could see that being too much
trouble.

David



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Re: [Orgmode] Why not emacs -Q for byte-compiling org-mode in the Makefile

2009-05-03 Thread Carsten Dominik


On May 3, 2009, at 9:29 PM, Tassilo Horn wrote:


Hi all,

is there a specific reason that the Makefile uses emacs -q and not  
emacs

-Q for byte-compiling org-mode?


Hi Tassilo,

this is a good idea, but -Q is not understood by XEmacs, and I
am not even sure about Emacs 22.

- Carsten



I use a lot of elisp addons, so loading the site-lisp files takes  
quite
some time and some packages like CEDET even print messages while  
loading

and obfuscate the compile output.  I changed the Makefile to use -Q
instead of -q which omits loading of site-lisp files, and it still
compiles fine but much faster.

Bye,
Tassilo
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