Re: [Orgmode] suggestions of Android smartphones
On 21 Apr 2010 10:09:47 +0200, "Sven Bretfeld" wrote: > > Hi all > > I'm sorry to break the thread. By mistake I sent an answer to Daniel as > a PM. Now, I don't have the previous posting because of my expiration > settings. I will do some editing to my original answer because of > questions he asked me in the meantime. I'm really sorry. [...] Sven, Thank you very much for this message. Very helpful to have such a detailed description of a working scenario for org and mobile phones! I'll definitely be keeping this message until I manage to get myself a smartphone... Thanks again, eric ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] suggestions of Android smartphones
Hi all I'm sorry to break the thread. By mistake I sent an answer to Daniel as a PM. Now, I don't have the previous posting because of my expiration settings. I will do some editing to my original answer because of questions he asked me in the meantime. I'm really sorry. Hi Daniel Daniel Martins writes: > BTW what Android smartphone do you have? I have a HTC Magic. ConnectBot is my favorite application. I have Emacs always running as a daemon on my Computers. So connecting to them via ConnectBot and starting Emacs is a matter of five seconds. No need for a genuine Emacs on Android. EDIT: You can do the same if you have Emacs 23 running and if you are willing to never shut your PC down. To speed up the start of Emacsclient I connect to the PC via ConnectBot using a key, not a password. My .bashrc has an alias defined to start 'emacsclient -t' with the alias 'ec'. Emacs will be available within ca. 5 seconds even from a distance of 300km. (You should have a UTMS flatrate for this.) For Org stuff, I have an Emacs function that automatically generates html files of all important agenda views once every hour. I copy these files to the phone via AndFTP once or twice a day. Capturing I do with Remember the Milk. So there are two methods of working with Org on Android before MobileOrg is ready: the ssh method and the FTP/Remember the Milk method. I'm quite happy with this solution. EDIT: I explained my RTM method in a posting some weeks ago. The code is included in that thread. Just search the archive for 'Remember the Milk'. As for the function for generating html exports of the agenda views: --8<---cut here---start->8--- (defun sb-org-update-year-agenda-file (&optional force) (interactive) (save-excursion (save-window-excursion (let ((file "~/.gtd/html/org-year-agenda.html")) (org-batch-agenda "a" org-agenda-ndays 180 org-agenda-include-diary nil) (org-write-agenda file) ;; do it once at startup (sb-org-update-year-agenda-file t) --8<---cut here---end--->8--- This produces an html output of the main agenda view for 6 months. I have a few other export functions for NEXT/HOME, NEXT/OFFICE and the like. All html files are updated every 30 minutes to include all tasks captured in the meantime: --8<---cut here---start->8--- (defun sb-org-update-all () (interactive) (sb-org-update-today-txt-agenda-file) (sb-org-update-week-agenda-file) (sb-org-update-mit-txt-agenda-file) (sb-org-update-mit-agenda-file) (sb-org-update-big-agenda-file) (sb-org-update-today-agenda-file) (sb-org-update-year-agenda-file) (sb-org-update-home-agenda-file) (sb-org-update-office-agenda-file) (sb-org-update-waiting-file) (sb-org-update-delegated-file) (sb-org-update-project-agenda-file) ) (run-at-time nil 1800 'sb-org-update-all) --8<---cut here---end--->8--- On the Android side, I download these files once or twice a day to the SD card with AndFTP (via SFTP of course). The directory ~/.gtd/html is configured as the working directory in AndFTP. So, just press 'select all' and start the download. This takes about 10 seconds, because the year agenda file is quite large. I have linked each file on the Android desktop with an Icon, which opens the file in an html viewer. The view contains all formatting and colors of the original Emacs agenda view. As you see, I export some agenda views also as txt files (it's the same function as above, just replace the file ending .html with .txt). I use these files with GnomeOSD, i.e. my most important appointments, deadlines and things do to appear on my PC screen once an hour in large letters and with a sound, to remind me of my tasks. Greetings Sven Daniel Martins writes: > --- resending with a proper title --- > > Matthew, > > Just a suggestion for newbies. > > Could you generate a video of MobileOrg Android similar to those of > the MobileOrg Iphone. > > I am still open to suggestions of Android smartphones. > > If I need to access a remote ssh account and open Emacs, the available > keyborards are OK? > > Daniel > > > PS I "bought" an Android phone called Motorola Quench but due to a > "misunderstanding" with the operator I was forced to cancel the > purchase. (I am still very annoyed with this problem) > > > > 2010/4/13 Matthew Jones : >> I am the developer/maintainer of MobileOrg for Android and I'd appreciate >> any feedback on the application. You can find more information and >> download links on the >> wiki: http://wiki.github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/ >> 73, >> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) >> http://matburt.net >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Daniel Martins >> wrote: >>> >>> Please, share your first impressions!!! I just bought an Android phone >>> and would like to take similar routes. >>> >>> Daniel >>> >>> 2010/2/16 David Rogoff : >>> > On 2010-02-16 13:4
Re: [Orgmode] suggestions of Android smartphones
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:07:32 -0300, Daniel Martins wrote: > > --- resending with a proper title --- > > Matthew, > > Just a suggestion for newbies. > > Could you generate a video of MobileOrg Android similar to those of > the MobileOrg Iphone. > > I am still open to suggestions of Android smartphones. > > If I need to access a remote ssh account and open Emacs, the available > keyborards are OK? > > Daniel I have the same questions! My current mobile phone contract expires in 3 months and I'm looking at upgrading to an Android phone. The current best deal I have found is for the Samsung Galaxy Portal, aka the i5700. [1] I'm looking at upgrading to replace my Nokia internet tablet (n810) and non-smart phone with one unit. The nokia does a really nice job of running emacs and org-mode, mind you. I'm particularly interested in knowing how the different handsets approach the keying in of keys like C-x, M-x, TAB, et al. Thanks, eric Footnotes: [1] for those in the UK, the best deal is currently with T-mobile at £15 pm but this obviously changes day to day... 3, my current provider, are asking £20 pm. Both are 24 month contracts. ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] suggestions of Android smartphones
Daniel, thanks for this suggestion it's a really good idea, I hope to make some as part of the documentation effort in the near future. I have a Droid and love it and its physical keyboard but I tend to do very simple things via ConnectBot to whatever server I am connected to. 73, Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) http://matburt.net On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Daniel Martins wrote: > --- resending with a proper title --- > > Matthew, > > Just a suggestion for newbies. > > Could you generate a video of MobileOrg Android similar to those of > the MobileOrg Iphone. > > I am still open to suggestions of Android smartphones. > > If I need to access a remote ssh account and open Emacs, the available > keyborards are OK? > > Daniel > > > PS I "bought" an Android phone called Motorola Quench but due to a > "misunderstanding" with the operator I was forced to cancel the > purchase. (I am still very annoyed with this problem) > > > > 2010/4/13 Matthew Jones : > > I am the developer/maintainer of MobileOrg for Android and I'd appreciate > > any feedback on the application. You can find more information and > > download links on the > > wiki: http://wiki.github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/ > > 73, > > Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) > > http://matburt.net > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Daniel Martins > > wrote: > >> > >> Please, share your first impressions!!! I just bought an Android phone > >> and would like to take similar routes. > >> > >> Daniel > >> > >> 2010/2/16 David Rogoff : > >> > On 2010-02-16 13:47:59 -0800, Tom Tobin said: > >> > > >> >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 12:18 PM, David Rogoff > > >> >> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Hi all. > >> >>> > >> >>> New org-mode convert also looking at new phones. It looks like > >> >>> theMoto > >> >>> Droid would be great for running org-mode. Has anyone ported emacs > to > >> >>> this > >> >>> platform and gotten org-mode running? > >> >> > >> >> I just switched from my iPhone back to an Android phone; I came > across > >> >> this project: > >> >> > >> >> http://github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android > >> >> > >> >> I haven't tried it yet, though. > >> > > >> > Thanks - I'll take a look. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > >> > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > >> > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > >> > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > >> > > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list > >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > > > > > > ___ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] suggestions of Android smartphones
Thank you very much! BTW what Android smartphone do you have? Daniel 2010/4/18 Sven Bretfeld : > Hi Daniel > > Daniel Martins writes: > >> If I need to access a remote ssh account and open Emacs, the available >> keyborards are OK? > > The standard (soft)keyboard is principally OK if you use Emacs on a > remote machine via ConnectBot, which is a free ssh client available in > the market. Pressing the Trackball once simulates CTRL, pressing it > twice simulates ESC/META. But there are sometimes problems with > TAB-expansion. 2 x Trackball + SPC simulates TAB. But this is sometimes > not working, for example for BBDB-expansions of Email addresses in Gnus, > also for some commands with M-x. "No expansion found". I don't know why. > > Greetings, > > Sven > > > ___ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
Re: [Orgmode] suggestions of Android smartphones
Hi Daniel Daniel Martins writes: > If I need to access a remote ssh account and open Emacs, the available > keyborards are OK? The standard (soft)keyboard is principally OK if you use Emacs on a remote machine via ConnectBot, which is a free ssh client available in the market. Pressing the Trackball once simulates CTRL, pressing it twice simulates ESC/META. But there are sometimes problems with TAB-expansion. 2 x Trackball + SPC simulates TAB. But this is sometimes not working, for example for BBDB-expansions of Email addresses in Gnus, also for some commands with M-x. "No expansion found". I don't know why. Greetings, Sven ___ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
