Re: [PATCH] ob-tangle: Add flag to optionally remove files before writing

[Ihor Radchenko]

Olivier Lischer  writes:

>> Please, let me know if you want to change anything.
>> Also, if you can, please test my patch with your use-case.
>
> I tried it and it works for me.
> Thank you for your patience.

Thanks for testing!
Applied, onto main.
https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs/org-mode.git/commit/?id=dd4d05a15

I also added you to the contributor list.
https://git.sr.ht/~bzg/worg/commit/7752b51b

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Re: [PATCH] ob-tangle: Add flag to optionally remove files before writing

[Olivier Lischer]

Ihor Radchenko  writes:

>
> Thanks for the update!
> Unfortunately, your patch has unbalanced parenthesis and will not work.
> I have modified your patch to make things work and to make it conform to
> Elisp code conventions. I also removed spurious change in the existing
> variable.
>
> See the attached.
>
> Please, let me know if you want to change anything.
> Also, if you can, please test my patch with your use-case.

Sorry for the headache.
I tried it and it works for me.
Thank you for your patience.

Re: [PATCH] ob-tangle: Add flag to optionally remove files before writing

[Ihor Radchenko]

[ Moving the discussion back to public in Org mailing list ]

Olivier Lischer  writes:

> I hope that this time I have changed the patch the way you wanted it.
> If anything is still wrong, I am happy to improve it.

Thanks for the update!
Unfortunately, your patch has unbalanced parenthesis and will not work.
I have modified your patch to make things work and to make it conform to
Elisp code conventions. I also removed spurious change in the existing
variable.

See the attached.

Please, let me know if you want to change anything.
Also, if you can, please test my patch with your use-case.

>From b8d2a8506c9b63ad9fefbf8caaefb5de94001eb7 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
Message-ID: 
From: Olivier Lischer 
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 21:02:20 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] ob-tangle: Add flag to optionally remove files before writing

* lisp/ob-tangle.el: Add new custom option
`org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write'.
(org-babel-tangle): Remove file before writing according to the value
of `org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write'.

The variable `org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write' adds support
for the current and old behaviour of `org-babel-tangle'.

Link: https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/877cjzhjtg@liolin.ch/
Co-authored-by: Ihor Radchenko 

TINYCHANGE
---
 etc/ORG-NEWS  | 10 ++
 lisp/ob-tangle.el | 31 ++-
 2 files changed, 40 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/etc/ORG-NEWS b/etc/ORG-NEWS
index dc0d9c0ad..26f0c90f9 100644
--- a/etc/ORG-NEWS
+++ b/etc/ORG-NEWS
@@ -928,6 +928,16 @@ properties, links to headlines in the file can also be made more
 robust by using the file id instead of the file path.
 
 ** New features
+*** =ob-tangle.el=: New flag to remove tangle targets before writing
+
+When ~org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write~ is set to ~t~ the
+tangle target is removed before writing.  This will allow overwriting
+read-only tangle targets.  However, when tangle target is a symlink,
+this will convert the tangle target into an ordinary file.
+
+The default value is ~auto~ -- overwrite tangle targets when they are
+read-only.
+
 *** ~org-bibtex-yank~ accepts a prefix argument
 
 When called with a prefix argument, ~org-bibtex-yank~ adds data to the
diff --git a/lisp/ob-tangle.el b/lisp/ob-tangle.el
index 281ab13d4..9bb69e5da 100644
--- a/lisp/ob-tangle.el
+++ b/lisp/ob-tangle.el
@@ -166,6 +166,23 @@ (defcustom org-babel-tangle-default-file-mode #o644
   :package-version '(Org . "9.6")
   :type 'integer)
 
+(defcustom org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write 'auto
+  "How to overwrite the existing tangle target.
+When set to nil, `org-babel-tangle' will replace contents of an existing
+tangle target (and fail when tangle target is read-only).
+When set to t, the tangle target (including read-only) will be deleted
+first and a new file, possibly with different ownership and
+permissions, will be created.
+When set to symbol `auto', overwrite read-only tangle targets and
+replace contents otherwise."
+  :group 'org-babel-tangle
+  :package-version '(Org . "9.7")
+  :type '(choice
+	  (const :tag "Replace contents, but keep the same file" nil)
+  (const :tag "Re-create file" t)
+  (const :tag "Re-create when read-only" auto))
+  :safe t)
+
 (defun org-babel-find-file-noselect-refresh (file)
   "Find file ensuring that the latest changes on disk are
 represented in the file."
@@ -323,7 +340,19 @@ (defun org-babel-tangle ( arg target-file lang-re)
(error "Not allowed to tangle into the same file as self"))
  ;; We do not erase, but overwrite previous file
  ;; to preserve any existing symlinks.
-		 (write-region nil nil file-name)
+ ;; This behavior is modified using
+ ;; `org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write' to
+ ;; tangle to read-only files.
+ (when (and
+			(file-exists-p file-name)
+(pcase org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write
+  (`auto (not (file-writable-p file-name)))
+  (`t t)
+  (`nil nil)
+  (_ (error "Invalid value of `org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write': %S"
+	org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write
+   (delete-file file-name))
+ (write-region nil nil file-name)
 		 (mapc (lambda (mode) (set-file-modes file-name mode)) modes))
(push file-name path-collector))
 	 (if (equal arg '(4))
-- 
2.43.0


(For records, below is the original patch, sent off-list)

> From 1523056a0dff5de64ed361d5bb1ad7d92ec7e369 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Olivier Lischer 
> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 21:02:20 +0100
> Subject: [PATCH] ob-tangle: Add flag to optionally remove files before writing
>
> * lisp/ob-tangle.el: Add variable
> `org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write'.
> 

Re: [PATCH] ob-tangle: Add flag to optionally remove files before writing

[Ihor Radchenko]

Olivier Lischer  writes:

>> I suggest changing your patch, setting the default value of
>> `org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write' to 'auto.
>> This will keep the current behaviour but fall back to delete + write new
>> file when the tangle target is read-only.
>> That will avoid feature regression.
>
> I changed the path as you proposed.

Thanks, but I think that I was not clear enough explaining what I wanted
you to change.

> -(defcustom org-babel-tangle-uncomment-comments nil
> +(defcustom org-babel-tangle-uncomment-comments 'auto

I did not ask to change `org-babel-tangle-uncomment-comments'.
I meant that you allow the new variable you propose
(`org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write') to have 3 values:
nil, t, and 'auto.

> +(defcustom org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write nil

... with default being 'auto, not nil.

> - ;; We do not erase, but overwrite previous file
> - ;; to preserve any existing symlinks.
> -  (write-region nil nil file-name)
> + (when (and (file-exists-p file-name) 
> org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write)
> +   (delete-file file-name))
> + (write-region nil nil file-name)

Then, with the default value of 'auto, you only call `delete-file' when
the file is read-only.

It would also help to extend the comment ";; We do not erase...", not
just delete it.

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Re: [PATCH] ob-tangle: Add flag to optionally remove files before writing

[Olivier Lischer]

Ihor Radchenko  writes:

> Olivier Lischer  writes:
>
>>> Thanks for the patch, but may you please explain why introducing such
>>> variable is useful?
>>
>> Sure.
>>
>> I configure all my .dotfiles in an Org mode file and tangle the
>> configuration in the right places. The tangled files are all
>> read-only to prevent accidentally editing of the "right" configuration
>> file. With the current tangling mechanism, this results in a "Permission
>> denied" error because the function writes to a read-only file. In a
>> earlier version this use case was possible because the file was
>> recreated before writing to it.
>
> Thanks for the explanation!
>
> I suggest changing your patch, setting the default value of
> `org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write' to 'auto.
> This will keep the current behaviour but fall back to delete + write new
> file when the tangle target is read-only.
> That will avoid feature regression.

I changed the path as you proposed.

>From a464592f622ba42732a5449d2c4db51f1975444a Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Olivier Lischer 
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 21:02:20 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] ob-tangle: Add flag to optionally remove files before writing

* lisp/ob-tangle.el: Add variable
`org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write'.
(org-babel-tangle): Remove file before writing when
`org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write' is set.

The variable `org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write' adds support
for the current and old behaviour of `org-babel-tangle'.

TINYCHANGE
---
 etc/ORG-NEWS  |  4 
 lisp/ob-tangle.el | 14 ++
 2 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/etc/ORG-NEWS b/etc/ORG-NEWS
index f537486d4..c7c3ee264 100644
--- a/etc/ORG-NEWS
+++ b/etc/ORG-NEWS
@@ -800,6 +800,10 @@ Completion is enabled for links to man pages added using ~org-insert-link~:
 =C-c C-l man RET emacscl TAB= to get =emacsclient=.  Of course, the ~ol-man~
 library should be loaded first.
 
+*** =ob-tangle.el=: Add flag to optionally remove files before writing
+
+When ~org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write~ is set to ~t~ the file is removed before writing.
+
 ** New functions and changes in function arguments
 *** New API functions to store data within ~org-element-cache~
 
diff --git a/lisp/ob-tangle.el b/lisp/ob-tangle.el
index 72089a9a5..64b7c2cf8 100644
--- a/lisp/ob-tangle.el
+++ b/lisp/ob-tangle.el
@@ -141,7 +141,7 @@ controlled by the :comments header argument."
   :version "24.1"
   :type 'string)
 
-(defcustom org-babel-tangle-uncomment-comments nil
+(defcustom org-babel-tangle-uncomment-comments 'auto
   "Inhibits automatic commenting and addition of trailing newline
 of tangle comments.  Use `org-babel-tangle-comment-format-beg'
 and `org-babel-tangle-comment-format-end' to customize the format
@@ -166,6 +166,12 @@ read-write permissions for the user, read-only for everyone else."
   :package-version '(Org . "9.6")
   :type 'integer)
 
+(defcustom org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write nil
+  "Prevents the deletion of an existing file before tangle"
+  :group 'org-babel-tangle
+  :package-version '(Org . "9.7")
+  :type 'boolean)
+
 (defun org-babel-find-file-noselect-refresh (file)
   "Find file ensuring that the latest changes on disk are
 represented in the file."
@@ -313,9 +319,9 @@ matching a regular expression."
   (compare-buffer-substrings
nil nil nil
tangle-buf nil nil)))
- ;; We do not erase, but overwrite previous file
- ;; to preserve any existing symlinks.
-		 (write-region nil nil file-name)
+ (when (and (file-exists-p file-name) org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write)
+   (delete-file file-name))
+ (write-region nil nil file-name)
 		 (mapc (lambda (mode) (set-file-modes file-name mode)) modes))
(push file-name path-collector))
 	 (if (equal arg '(4))
-- 
2.43.0

Re: [PATCH] ob-tangle: Add flag to optionally remove files before writing

[Ihor Radchenko]

Olivier Lischer  writes:

>> Thanks for the patch, but may you please explain why introducing such
>> variable is useful?
>
> Sure.
>
> I configure all my .dotfiles in an Org mode file and tangle the
> configuration in the right places. The tangled files are all
> read-only to prevent accidentally editing of the "right" configuration
> file. With the current tangling mechanism, this results in a "Permission
> denied" error because the function writes to a read-only file. In a
> earlier version this use case was possible because the file was
> recreated before writing to it.

Thanks for the explanation!

I suggest changing your patch, setting the default value of
`org-babel-tangle-remove-file-before-write' to 'auto.
This will keep the current behaviour but fall back to delete + write new
file when the tangle target is read-only.
That will avoid feature regression.

-- 
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Org mode contributor,
Learn more about Org mode at .
Support Org development at ,
or support my work at 

Re: [PATCH] ob-tangle: Add flag to optionally remove files before writing

[Olivier Lischer]

Ihor Radchenko  writes:

> Olivier Lischer  writes:
>
>> In December last year was a change introduced, that a file should not be
>> removed before
>> tangling (https://lists.gnu.org/r/emacs-orgmode/2021-05/msg00337.html).
>> In an older bug report
>> (https://lists.gnu.org/r/emacs-orgmode/2021-05/msg00337.html)
>> the decision was to remove the file before writing.
>> I added a variable to switch between both behaviors.
>
> Thanks for the patch, but may you please explain why introducing such
> variable is useful?

Sure.

I configure all my .dotfiles in an Org mode file and tangle the
configuration in the right places. The tangled files are all
read-only to prevent accidentally editing of the "right" configuration
file. With the current tangling mechanism, this results in a "Permission
denied" error because the function writes to a read-only file. In a
earlier version this use case was possible because the file was
recreated before writing to it.
There are also other people with the same workflow. See an older post to
the mailing list
(https://lists.gnu.org/r/emacs-orgmode/2021-05/msg00337.html).

Some other have the opposite problem. They do not want the function to
remove the file before tangling because it is a symlink.
See this post on the mailing list
(https://list.orgmode.org/orgmode/caphku6o9nfvmafme3_ahmpjea_2qm0mjmfx6qppt8uiq94k...@mail.gmail.com/)

To achieve both use cases, I think an additional variable could be
useful.

Best Regards
Oli

Re: [PATCH] ob-tangle: Add flag to optionally remove files before writing

[Ihor Radchenko]

Olivier Lischer  writes:

> In December last year was a change introduced, that a file should not be
> removed before
> tangling (https://lists.gnu.org/r/emacs-orgmode/2021-05/msg00337.html).
> In an older bug report
> (https://lists.gnu.org/r/emacs-orgmode/2021-05/msg00337.html)
> the decision was to remove the file before writing.
> I added a variable to switch between both behaviors.

Thanks for the patch, but may you please explain why introducing such
variable is useful?

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