Re: Starting from 9.5, Org contrib will be distributed as a separate NonGNU ELPA package
Samuel Wales writes: > presumably at some point this will be > https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-contrib.git ? No, it will be another URL. -- Bastien
Re: Starting from 9.5, Org contrib will be distributed as a separate NonGNU ELPA package
presumably at some point this will be https://code.orgmode.org/bzg/org-contrib.git ? On 4/11/21, Bastien wrote: > Hi Samuel, > > Samuel Wales writes: > >> what is the recommendation for those of us who don't use package >> systems? get contrib from some github-like repo someplace or >> something + get org from git as usual? > > Yes. If you used to install Org by cloning the Git repo and want to > use contributed packages, you will have to clone the org-contrib.git > repository. > > -- > Bastien > -- The Kafka Pandemic Please learn what misopathy is. https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged.html
Re: Starting from 9.5, Org contrib will be distributed as a separate NonGNU ELPA package
Hi Samuel, Samuel Wales writes: > what is the recommendation for those of us who don't use package > systems? get contrib from some github-like repo someplace or > something + get org from git as usual? Yes. If you used to install Org by cloning the Git repo and want to use contributed packages, you will have to clone the org-contrib.git repository. -- Bastien
Re: Starting from 9.5, Org contrib will be distributed as a separate NonGNU ELPA package
what is the recommendation for those of us who don't use package systems? get contrib from some github-like repo someplace or something + get org from git as usual? or...? On 4/11/21, Bastien wrote: > Hi Allen, > > sorry for the late reply. > > Allen Li writes: > >> Will there be an overlapping period (and if not, can we add such a >> period)? > > yes, there will be an overlapping period. > > 9.5-without-contrib will be released on GNU ELPA and Org ELPA, > with a warning that Org ELPA will be closed. > > An last 9.5-plus-contrib will be manually build and released on > Org ELPA, warning users that these package is the last one and > pointing to instructions on how to update their installation. > > And a new org-contrib package will be released on NonGNU ELPA. > > Then, after this overlapping period, 9.6 will only be released > on GNU ELPA and org-contrib on NonGNU ELPA. > > Let me know if that sounds okay to you. > > Best, > > -- > Bastien > > -- The Kafka Pandemic Please learn what misopathy is. https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com/2013/10/why-some-diseases-are-wronged.html
Re: Starting from 9.5, Org contrib will be distributed as a separate NonGNU ELPA package
Hi Allen, sorry for the late reply. Allen Li writes: > Will there be an overlapping period (and if not, can we add such a > period)? yes, there will be an overlapping period. 9.5-without-contrib will be released on GNU ELPA and Org ELPA, with a warning that Org ELPA will be closed. An last 9.5-plus-contrib will be manually build and released on Org ELPA, warning users that these package is the last one and pointing to instructions on how to update their installation. And a new org-contrib package will be released on NonGNU ELPA. Then, after this overlapping period, 9.6 will only be released on GNU ELPA and org-contrib on NonGNU ELPA. Let me know if that sounds okay to you. Best, -- Bastien
Re: Starting from 9.5, Org contrib will be distributed as a separate NonGNU ELPA package
Allen Li writes: > Bastien writes: > >> Hi all, >> >> starting from Org 9.5, org-contrib will be distributed as a NonGNU >> ELPA package. You will find it here: https://elpa.nongnu.org/nongnu/ >> >> See for https://orgmode.org/list/87wnzfy60h@bzg.fr/ for context. >> >> Thanks, > > Will there be an overlapping period (and if not, can we add such a > period)? For example, have one release where org-contrib is still > shipped, and the NonGNU repos are available. That gives users such as > myself a period to switch over without things breaking immediately. > > If I understand correctly, the current plan is that users using > org-contrib will have their configs break immediately when they upgrade > to 9.5, forcing them to do both the 9.5 upgrade and switchover to NonGNU > simultaneously. It's easier if we can first safely upgrade to 9.5, then > switch to NonGNU repos, and in the next release org-contrib can be removed. I agree an overlap would be useful. This will give maintainers of 'canned' configs, like spacemacs and doom time to update their setups. However, just to clarify. As I understand it, after 9.5, there will no longer be an 'org-plus-contrib' package. Those who now use org-plus-contrib will need to update their config to install org (fro ELPA) and org-contrib (from NONGNU ELPA). The good news is nothing will break. When you do an update, there just won't be an updated org-plus-contrib and you will remain on 9.5. Only after you have updated your config will you get a version > 9.5. -- Tim Cross
Re: Starting from 9.5, Org contrib will be distributed as a separate NonGNU ELPA package
Bastien writes: > Hi all, > > starting from Org 9.5, org-contrib will be distributed as a NonGNU > ELPA package. You will find it here: https://elpa.nongnu.org/nongnu/ > > See for https://orgmode.org/list/87wnzfy60h@bzg.fr/ for context. > > Thanks, Will there be an overlapping period (and if not, can we add such a period)? For example, have one release where org-contrib is still shipped, and the NonGNU repos are available. That gives users such as myself a period to switch over without things breaking immediately. If I understand correctly, the current plan is that users using org-contrib will have their configs break immediately when they upgrade to 9.5, forcing them to do both the 9.5 upgrade and switchover to NonGNU simultaneously. It's easier if we can first safely upgrade to 9.5, then switch to NonGNU repos, and in the next release org-contrib can be removed.
Re: Starting from 9.5, Org contrib will be distributed as a separate NonGNU ELPA package
> Bastien writes: >> Is it still the intention to put the files in a new >> org-contrib.git repo on code.orgmode.org? > Yes, org-contrib.git will live in one of these forges: > https://code.orgmode.org https://savannah.nongnu.org https://sr.ht Great! Thanks, Bastien. Best wishes,
Re: Starting from 9.5, Org contrib will be distributed as a separate NonGNU ELPA package
Hi Colin, Colin Baxter writes: >> Bastien writes: > > > Hi all, starting from Org 9.5, org-contrib will be distributed as > > a NonGNU ELPA package. You will find it here: > > https://elpa.nongnu.org/nongnu/ > > > See for https://orgmode.org/list/87wnzfy60h@bzg.fr/ for > > context. > > Is it still the intention to put the files in a new org-contrib.git repo > on code.orgmode.org? Yes, org-contrib.git will live in one of these forges: https://code.orgmode.org https://savannah.nongnu.org https://sr.ht > This would be useful for those of us who do not > use packages. Indeed! -- Bastien
Re: Starting from 9.5, Org contrib will be distributed as a separate NonGNU ELPA package
> Bastien writes: > Hi all, starting from Org 9.5, org-contrib will be distributed as > a NonGNU ELPA package. You will find it here: > https://elpa.nongnu.org/nongnu/ > See for https://orgmode.org/list/87wnzfy60h@bzg.fr/ for > context. Is it still the intention to put the files in a new org-contrib.git repo on code.orgmode.org? This would be useful for those of us who do not use packages. Best wishes,
Starting from 9.5, Org contrib will be distributed as a separate NonGNU ELPA package
Hi all, starting from Org 9.5, org-contrib will be distributed as a NonGNU ELPA package. You will find it here: https://elpa.nongnu.org/nongnu/ See for https://orgmode.org/list/87wnzfy60h@bzg.fr/ for context. Thanks, -- Bastien
