Re: Options menu names

2006-03-05 Thread Eli Zaretskii
 From: Drew Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 21:45:41 -0800
 
  The names of the Options menu items do not use parallel 
  construction. Some are noun phrases, others are verb phrases.
  Verb phrases are generally clearer.
 
 But some of the menu items, such as Syntax Highlighting, follow
 widespread conventions that users expect.  So I don't think we should
 change those.
 
 Oh really? What widespread conventions are those? Be specific, please.

Sorry, I don't understand what you want me to say more than I already
did.


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Re: Options menu names

2006-03-05 Thread John Paul Wallington
Drew Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 All that you did was to argue by appealing to authority: some unnamed,
 undescribed widespread conventions that users expect. That's an empty
 argument/explanation without saying what that authority is: what conventions
 are you referring to? What user-expecting convention does Syntax
 Highlighting follow?

The issue is largely moot because there is no Syntax Highlighting
entry in the Option menu since it was removed on 2005-11-14 after
`global-font-lock-mode' had been turned on by default.


FWIW, I agree with Eli.  I think that syntax highlighting is what
the feature is often called by Emacs users and potential Emacs users,
and that changing the entry for the sake of uniformity isn't
worthwhile.

I suppose my impression that I have heard people use the phrase
syntax highlighting often may be faulty.  However, doing Google
searches for syntax highlighting versus highlight syntax for
either the web or usenet with or without Emacs as a qualifier suggests
that the phrase syntax highlighting is used much more frequently
than highlight syntax.


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RE: Added text makes `C-h b' wider than 70 chars

2006-03-05 Thread Drew Adams
I've never seen a list of bindings what would not require
vertical scrolling anyway, so I don't think adding to the
vertical dimension would do any harm.

That reasining is not valid.  If the change makes only half as many
commands fit in one screenful, that is a change for the worse.

I don't see the change doing that, but I could be wrong. In practice, I've
only seen this added to less than a dozen lines.

And I've never seen `C-h b' output that is less than a full screen in
height, as I said. I can't speak for what others see.

Perhaps you mean that even if the window must be scrolled vertically anyway,
this would be unacceptable because it would mean needing to scroll more. If
so, then the question comes down to whether or not there are many such
lines. Yes, if half the lines had this addition, then the vertical scrolling
would be doubled.

Anyway, your (shadowing) fix should do the job pretty well.





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leim: No such file or directory

2006-03-05 Thread Leon
Hi,

This might be a bug.
During the last step of installation, ``make install prefix=/tmp/E/emacs
gives error: 
  /tmp/E/emacs/share/emacs/23.0.0/leim: No such file or directory

``make install will run without error.
-- 
Leon
GNU Emacs 23.0.0.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.8.3) of
2006-03-06 on morannon



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Re: Problems with international characters in menus on Mac OSX

2006-03-05 Thread YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
 On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 11:55:44 +0900, Kenichi Handa [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 said:

 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Olsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 If I add a menu to the menu bar (or menu items to a menu) containing 
 international characters (for instance any of the swedish characters 
 'å', 'ä' and 'ö') they will not show up correctly.

 For instance
 'å' shows as Â
 'ä' shows as '‰'
 'ö' shows as '^'
 'Å' shows as '≈'
 [...]
 In GNU Emacs 22.0.50.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin7.9.0)
 of 2005-09-28 on lucy - Aquamacs Distribution 0.9.6

 It seems that this is a problem specific to
 powerpc-apple-darwin7.9.0.  On GNU/Linux with X Window
 System, for instance, the following code works well;
 i.e. clicking Test in menu bar shows å ä ö Å correctly
 (in latin-1 language environment).

 (define-key global-map [menu-bar test]
   (cons Test test-menu))
 (Test keymap Test)
 (define-key test-menu [test-insert]
   '(menu-item å ä ö Å (lambda () (interactive) (insert å ä ö Å

It also works on Mac OS X/Carbon.  (I suppose you have (setq test-menu
(make-sparse-keymap Test)) before the first expression.)  Maybe
specific to Aquamacs 0.9.6?

 YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: Options menu names

2006-03-05 Thread Eli Zaretskii
 From: Drew Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2006 12:45:07 -0800
 
 All that you did was to argue by appealing to authority: some unnamed,
 undescribed widespread conventions that users expect. That's an empty
 argument/explanation without saying what that authority is: what conventions
 are you referring to? What user-expecting convention does Syntax
 Highlighting follow?

Syntax Highlighting is a wide-spread term, that's all I wanted to say.


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