turn-on-eldoc-mode docstring clarity

2007-05-03 Thread Kevin Ryde
Starting from emacs -Q,

M-x customize-variable emacs-lisp-mode-hook

shows

[ ] turn-on-eldoc-mode
Unequivocally turn on eldoc-mode (see variable documentation). [More]

and asking for "More" only adds "(fn)".

It'd be nice if that description had quotes so `eldoc-mode' was a
link, and I think it's the eldoc-mode function which describes the
mode, rather than the variable, if that's what "see variable
documentation" is meant to be referring to (I couldn't tell).  A
sentence saying broadly what the mode does could be helpful under
"More", even if you normally follow to eldoc-mode for the details.


In GNU Emacs 22.1.50.3 (i586-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.10.11)
 of 2007-05-04 on blah
configured using `configure  'CFLAGS=-O' '--prefix=/down/emacs/b/inst' 
'--with-x-toolkit=gtk''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: en_AU
  locale-coding-system: iso-8859-1
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Custom

Minor modes in effect:
  encoded-kbd-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t
  utf-translate-cjk-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t

Recent input:
ESC x c u s t o m i z e - v a r TAB RET e m a c s - 
l i s p - m o d e - h o o k RET ESC x r e p o r t - 
e m a TAB RET

Recent messages:
Loading easymenu...done
Loading cus-edit...done
Loading help-fns...done
Creating customization items...
Creating customization items ...done
Resetting customization items...done
Creating customization setup...done
Loading emacsbug...
Loading regexp-opt...done
Loading emacsbug...done


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Re: M-` cannot access emacs Menu Bar.

2007-05-03 Thread Nick Roberts
 > In GNU Emacs 22.0.97.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.9.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0)
 > of 2007-04-16 on silver-lightnin.local
 >...


 > tmm-menubar: Wrong type argument: listp, keymap
 > Buffer is read-only: #
 > tmm-menubar: Wrong type argument: listp, keymap
 >...

I think this has already been fixed in CVS.  Can you update and try again.

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M-` cannot access emacs Menu Bar.

2007-05-03 Thread Livin Stephen Sharma

In GNU Emacs 22.0.97.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.9.0, Carbon Version 1.6.0)
of 2007-04-16 on silver-lightnin.local
Windowing system distributor configure  '--prefix=/opt/local' '-- 
mandir=/opt/local/share/man' '--infodir=/opt/local/share/info' '-- 
without-x' 'CC=/usr/bin/gcc-4.0' 'CFLAGS=-I/opt/local/include'  
'LDFLAGS=-L/opt/local/lib' 'CPPFLAGS=-I/opt/local/include' 'CPP=/usr/ 
bin/cpp-4.0''


Important settings:
  value of : nil
  value of : nil
  value of : nil
  value of : nil
  value of : nil
  value of : nil
  value of : nil
  value of : nil
  locale-coding-system: utf-8
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: JDE

Minor modes in effect:
  show-paren-mode: t
  display-battery-mode: t
  semantic-idle-scheduler-mode: t
  iswitchb-mode: t
  savehist-mode: t
  display-time-mode: t
  encoded-kbd-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t
  utf-translate-cjk-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  size-indication-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t
  abbrev-mode: t


Recent input:
o ESC s ESC x C-x o C-g C-x o ESC x k i l l - m TAB
RET C-@ C-e ESC x ESC p RET C-_ C-x o C-@ ESC < ESC
x ESC p RET C-_ C-x C-k e k i C-_ C-x C-k e RET C-x
C-w ~ / D TAB o TAB t e TAB e m TAB TAB TAB m a TAB
c r o s / l i v i n RET C-x C-g C-g C-x C-w ESC p ESC
b m DEL C-e / SPC k i l l - m a c r o - l i v n DEL
i n ESC b ESC b ESC b DEL RET ESC x m a k d TAB DEL
e TAB - d i TAB RET RET ESC x ESC p ESC p C-g C-g C-x
k RET C-g C-_ ESC < C-_ C-_ C-_ C-x C-_ C-_ C-n C-n
C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n
C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n
C-n C-n C-n C-n C-x C-s C-x k RET C-x C-k e RET C-x
k RET C-@ ESC > ESC x ESC p ESC p RET C-_ C-x C-k e
RET C-x C-w ESC p TAB RET y C-x k RET C-x k RET C-x
0 C-x k RET C-x k RET C-x b RET ESC  ESC x
s e n TAB d TAB ESC DEL ESC DEL TAB C-x o C-x o C-s
b u g C-s C-a C-s b u g - r e p o r t C-s C-s C-s C-a
ESC < C-s r e p o r t C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s RET
RET

Recent messages:
(Shell command succeeded with no output)
Undo!
Formatting keyboard macro...done
File `~/Documents/tech/emacs/macros/livin/kill-macro-livin' exists;  
overwrite? (y or n)

Wrote /Users/livin/Documents/tech/emacs/macros/livin/kill-macro-livin
tmm-menubar: Wrong type argument: listp, keymap
Buffer is read-only: #
tmm-menubar: Wrong type argument: listp, keymap
Making completion list... [2 times]
Loading emacsbug...done
 
  



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Re: python.el

2007-05-03 Thread Richard Stallman
Not easily in detail.  Anything I actually contributed I consider OK,
obviously. 

We need to verify that this is ok.  When you wrote that code, did you
have an employer who could possibly claim copyright on it?  If so,
do we have a disclaimer from that employer?

This is why I ask the period of years during which you worked
for that problematical employer, and the period of years during which
you worked on the code in python.el.


Please answer.  We are waiting for you.


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Re: GNU Emacs 23.0.0 does not compile on Mac OS X 10.4.9 when libotf is present

2007-05-03 Thread Peter Dyballa


Am 01.05.2007 um 13:02 schrieb Kenichi Handa:


I see.  Anyway, the new configure should avoid using libotf
if it's too old.  Have you tried it?


And with updated libotf:

checking for libotf-config... yes
checking for OTF_get_features in -lotf... yes

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Create-fontset-from-fontset-spec in Gnu Emacs 23.0.0

2007-05-03 Thread Peter Dyballa

Hello!

There is a slight difference in the documentation of create-fontset- 
from-fontset-spec between GNU Emacs 22.x and GNU Emacs 23, the latter  
has an additional:


When a frame uses the fontset as the `font' parameter, the frame's
default font name is derived from FONTSET-NAME by substituting
"iso8859-1" for the tail part "fontset-XXX".  But, if SCRIPT-NAMEn
is "ascii", use the corresponding FONT-NAMEn as the default font
name.

Such a fontset definition can be:

(create-fontset-from-fontset-spec
"-*-courier new-medium-r-*-*-10-*-*-*-*-*- 
fontset-10pt_courier_new,

 latin-iso8859-1:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
 latin-iso8859-2:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
 latin-iso8859-3:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
 latin-iso8859-4:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
  cyrillic-iso8859-5:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
arabic-iso8859-6:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
 greek-iso8859-7:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
hebrew-iso8859-8:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
 latin-iso8859-9:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
latin-iso8859-10:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
latin-iso8859-13:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
latin-iso8859-14:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
latin-iso8859-15:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
latin-iso8859-16:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
 mac-roman-lower:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
 mac-roman-upper:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
  mule-unicode-0100-24ff:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
  mule-unicode-2500-33ff:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
  mule-unicode-e000-:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
  iso10646-1:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*,
   ascii:-*-courier new-medium-r-*-mac-*")

My question is: what is the visible difference when I omit the  
``ascii:´´ part? What will make GNU Emacs use more Courier than other  
glyphs? Will omitting the ``ascii:´´ part improve the display of  
Unicode characters as the last cited sentence of the documentation  
suggests? Or is it the other way 'round by enabling the use of the  
whole font and not only the ISO 8859-1 subset?


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