lots of "source file is newer" messages

2006-09-15 Thread Zhang Wei
Emacs reports lots of "source file is newer" messages while startup,
such as:

(C:\Emacs\bin\emacs.exe)
Loading subst-jis (compiled; note, source file is newer)...done
Loading subst-ksc (compiled; note, source file is newer)...done
Loading subst-big5 (compiled; note, source file is newer)...done
Loading subst-gb2312 (compiled; note, source file is newer)...done
Source file `c:/Emacs/lisp/gnus/gnus-sum.el' newer than byte-compiled file
Loading easy-mmode (compiled; note, source file is newer)...done

--
In GNU Emacs 22.0.50.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
 of 2006-09-16 on BREP
X server distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600
configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.2)'

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: CHS
  locale-coding-system: chinese-gbk
  default-enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Group

Minor modes in effect:
  gnus-topic-mode: t
  gnus-undo-mode: t
  display-time-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  delete-selection-mode: t
  pc-selection-mode: t
  encoded-kbd-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  unify-8859-on-encoding-mode: t
  utf-translate-cjk-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
C-x C-b   M-x r e p o r t - e m a  
 l o t s
 C-g C-a M-x g n u s  C-x C-b  
  
   
   C-@ M-> M-w C-x C-b
L M-x r e p o r  

Recent messages:
No gnus is bad news
No more unread newsgroups
Updating buffer list...done
Commands: m, u, t, RET, g, k, S, D, Q; q to quit; h for help
Mark set
Region saved
Updating buffer list...done
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No gnus is bad news
ibuffer: Cannot switch buffers in minibuffer window



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Re: lots of "source file is newer" messages

2006-09-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> From: Zhang Wei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 04:34:59 +0800
> 
> Emacs reports lots of "source file is newer" messages while startup,
> such as:
> 
> (C:\Emacs\bin\emacs.exe)
> Loading subst-jis (compiled; note, source file is newer)...done
> Loading subst-ksc (compiled; note, source file is newer)...done
> Loading subst-big5 (compiled; note, source file is newer)...done
> Loading subst-gb2312 (compiled; note, source file is newer)...done
> Source file `c:/Emacs/lisp/gnus/gnus-sum.el' newer than byte-compiled file
> Loading easy-mmode (compiled; note, source file is newer)...done

I don't see this on my Windows system.  I'm guessing that your build
procedure somehow went wrong.  Can you tell what commands you typed
after doing a "cvs up"?


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Re: lots of "source file is newer" messages

2006-09-16 Thread Zhang Wei
Eli Zaretskii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I don't see this on my Windows system.  I'm guessing that your build
> procedure somehow went wrong.  Can you tell what commands you typed
> after doing a "cvs up"?

I think this problem is caused by the `cp' program of msys, it can't
preserve the modification time of file while copying.

My msys installation is broken some month ago, after my Windows XP
update itself automatically. And I got a "Couldn't reserve space for
cygwin's heap" error when trying to use msys program such as `cp', I
have to replace the `msys-1.0.dll' with 'new-msys-1.0.dll' according to:

http://lists-archives.org/mingw-msys/01244-couldn-t-reserve-space-for-cygwin-s-heap-win32-error-6.html




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Re: lots of "source file is newer" messages

2006-09-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
> From: Zhang Wei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 18:08:54 +0800
> 
> I think this problem is caused by the `cp' program of msys, it can't
> preserve the modification time of file while copying.

Why do you need to use `cp' at all?


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Re: lots of "source file is newer" messages

2006-09-16 Thread Zhang Wei
Eli Zaretskii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> I think this problem is caused by the `cp' program of msys, it can't
>> preserve the modification time of file while copying.
>
> Why do you need to use `cp' at all?

I don't have cygwin installed. I think `cp' of msys is used for copying
files while `make install'.



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Re: lots of "source file is newer" messages

2006-09-16 Thread martin rudalics

I don't have cygwin installed. I think `cp' of msys is used for copying
files while `make install'.


FWIW, `make install' recently failed with cp.exe (5.3.0) from GnuWin32 on
my system.  It tells me things like:

... skipping file `c:/foo', as it was replaced while being copied

This never failed with UnxUtils / Cygwin ports of cp.


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Re: lots of "source file is newer" messages

2006-09-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 14:42:36 +0200
> From: martin rudalics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: Eli Zaretskii <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
> 
> FWIW, `make install' recently failed with cp.exe (5.3.0) from GnuWin32 on
> my system.  It tells me things like:
> 
> ... skipping file `c:/foo', as it was replaced while being copied
> 
> This never failed with UnxUtils / Cygwin ports of cp.

Please post a full transcript of what happens when you type
"make install".  It's very hard to look into problems given
such partial information.


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Re: lots of "source file is newer" messages

2006-09-16 Thread martin rudalics

Please post a full transcript of what happens when you type
"make install".  It's very hard to look into problems given
such partial information.


It's not a problem with `make install'.  It's a problem of that
very instance of cp.  As far as I recall it failed already during
configure, hence I maybe didn't even get to make.  But I'm quite
reluctant to go through that again.  Suffice it to say that
cp.exe version 5.3.0 from GnuWin32 fails to copy a file on my
system.



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Re: lots of "source file is newer" messages

2006-09-16 Thread Eli Zaretskii
> Date: Sat, 16 Sep 2006 15:16:20 +0200
> From: martin rudalics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC:  [EMAIL PROTECTED],  emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org
> 
> > Please post a full transcript of what happens when you type
> > "make install".  It's very hard to look into problems given
> > such partial information.
> 
> It's not a problem with `make install'.  It's a problem of that
> very instance of cp.  As far as I recall it failed already during
> configure, hence I maybe didn't even get to make.  But I'm quite
> reluctant to go through that again.  Suffice it to say that
> cp.exe version 5.3.0 from GnuWin32 fails to copy a file on my
> system.

FWIW, I'm using the same version of cp.exe, and I don't see any such
problem, neither during configure, nor during "make install".

Are you using some port of a Unix shell, and if so, what port is that?

Also, what port of Make are you using, and where did you get the
binary?



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Re: lots of "source file is newer" messages

2006-09-16 Thread martin rudalics

FWIW, I'm using the same version of cp.exe, and I don't see any such
problem, neither during configure, nor during "make install".


I didn't before and do not since I eliminated that version of cp.  As I
said before, it's not related to making Emacs.  cp.exe from GnuWin32
simply refuses to copy a file on my system.  And I conjecture that
`make install' may have failed in a strange way, on my system, by using
my usual version of cp.exe during configure and the broken one during
making.  But I don't recall precisely what happened.  I simply know that
some components of GnuWin32 don't work on my system.

> Are you using some port of a Unix shell, and if so, what port is that?

Not in this context.  But with zsh.exe (zsh-4.2.4.exe) from Cygwin
cp behaves in exactly the same way.

> Also, what port of Make are you using, and where did you get the
> binary?

Make 3.80 from MinGW.  I don't recall where I got the binaries from.



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