Re: [Emc-developers] Mesa 7I80HDT needed

2023-04-18 Thread Rod Webster
 >I really want to upgrade anyway, because the PC is a Core2 Duo and might
not be adequate to run a full desktop and the machine under recent Debian.
I think that would be a wise choice. I've done some extensive work with
Debian Bookworm. My ever changing tutorial is here.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jeV_4VKzVmOIzbB-ytcgsW2I_PhCm1x7oiw8VcLFdiY/edit?usp=sharing
We are now getting really good latencies.

I tested Probe-basic last night on a 1600 pixel wide PC. Some Windows
refuse to scale so it's definitely a no from me.
QTdragon XYZ scales OK, but seems to waste some screen real estate on the
right. Its very cool when you get into it.


Rod Webster
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On Wed, 19 Apr 2023 at 11:29, Chris  wrote:

> Steve,
>
> Definitely a 5i20. I just looked as a sanity check. The Full HD (1920x1080
> IIRC) needed for probe-basic is higher resolution than my monitor, but
> probably not the video card. I do actually have a decent PCIe graphics
> card, but I’d have to give that up to go to a PCIe FPGA card. I really want
> to upgrade anyway, because the PC is a Core2 Duo and might not be adequate
> to run a full desktop and the machine under recent Debian.
>
> Chris
>
> > On Apr 18, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Steve Stallings 
> wrote:
> >
> > I think a 5i24 is what he has now, and the modern embedded computers
> seem to have gone over to PCIexpress slots. The embedded
> > computer he currently uses cannot support a 16 to 9 ratio screen needed
> by some of the newer GUI interfaces. The current computer
> > only has one PCI slot so an add-on video card and the 5i24 cannot both
> be installed at the same time.
> >
> > Steve Stallings
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2023 4:02 PM
> > To: EMC developers
> > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Mesa 7I80HDT needed
> >
> >> On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 at 14:12, Chris Helgesen 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> Apologies for bothering the developer's list with this. I have a Hurco
> >> KM3 I did a LinuxCNC-based retrofit on during the Jurassic period. I
> >> need to replace the host PC, and I've reached the end of the road for
> >> my Mesa PCI interface card.
> >
> >
> > Have you looked at the (in-stock) 5i24?
> >
> > Should be a straight swap for whatever PCI card you are using.
> > Or is the problem a lack of PCI slots in replacement PCs?
> >
> > --
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Re: [Emc-developers] Mesa 7I80HDT needed

2023-04-18 Thread Chris
Steve,

Definitely a 5i20. I just looked as a sanity check. The Full HD (1920x1080 
IIRC) needed for probe-basic is higher resolution than my monitor, but probably 
not the video card. I do actually have a decent PCIe graphics card, but I’d 
have to give that up to go to a PCIe FPGA card. I really want to upgrade 
anyway, because the PC is a Core2 Duo and might not be adequate to run a full 
desktop and the machine under recent Debian. 

Chris

> On Apr 18, 2023, at 4:53 PM, Steve Stallings  wrote:
> 
> I think a 5i24 is what he has now, and the modern embedded computers seem to 
> have gone over to PCIexpress slots. The embedded
> computer he currently uses cannot support a 16 to 9 ratio screen needed by 
> some of the newer GUI interfaces. The current computer
> only has one PCI slot so an add-on video card and the 5i24 cannot both be 
> installed at the same time.
> 
> Steve Stallings
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2023 4:02 PM
> To: EMC developers
> Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Mesa 7I80HDT needed
> 
>> On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 at 14:12, Chris Helgesen 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Apologies for bothering the developer's list with this. I have a Hurco 
>> KM3 I did a LinuxCNC-based retrofit on during the Jurassic period. I 
>> need to replace the host PC, and I've reached the end of the road for 
>> my Mesa PCI interface card.
> 
> 
> Have you looked at the (in-stock) 5i24?
> 
> Should be a straight swap for whatever PCI card you are using.
> Or is the problem a lack of PCI slots in replacement PCs?
> 
> --
> atp
> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for 
> the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
> lunatics."
> - George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
> 
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Re: [Emc-developers] Mesa 7I80HDT needed

2023-04-18 Thread Steve Stallings
I think a 5i24 is what he has now, and the modern embedded computers seem to 
have gone over to PCIexpress slots. The embedded
computer he currently uses cannot support a 16 to 9 ratio screen needed by some 
of the newer GUI interfaces. The current computer
only has one PCI slot so an add-on video card and the 5i24 cannot both be 
installed at the same time.

Steve Stallings

-Original Message-
From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2023 4:02 PM
To: EMC developers
Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Mesa 7I80HDT needed

On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 at 14:12, Chris Helgesen 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Apologies for bothering the developer's list with this. I have a Hurco 
> KM3 I did a LinuxCNC-based retrofit on during the Jurassic period. I 
> need to replace the host PC, and I've reached the end of the road for 
> my Mesa PCI interface card.


Have you looked at the (in-stock) 5i24?

Should be a straight swap for whatever PCI card you are using.
Or is the problem a lack of PCI slots in replacement PCs?

--
atp
"A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for 
the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and
lunatics."
- George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912

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Re: [Emc-developers] Mesa 7I80HDT needed

2023-04-18 Thread Chris Helgesen
Andy,

I have a nice mounting scheme in my control cabinet for SFF PCs. It seems
like you have to go pretty far back in time to find one with a PCI slot. My
existing full-height M5I20 required a cutout in the lid of my current PC to
allow the card to protrude and provide a path for cables. The prior SFF PC
I originally used had a riser card with a horizontal slot for a full-height
card, but the newer one only had a single slot on the motherboard for a
vertical half height card. So I modified the lid.

I considered a PCIe host card (6I24) as a replacement, but the PCs I looked
at would have had ribbon cable access problems too. Assuming the
ethernet-based card works well for my servo system, I can use almost any PC
as a host and upgrade to something with a lot more horsepower.

Hopefully I'll be in good shape with the card Peter conjured.  :)

Thanks all,

Chris


On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 4:06 PM andy pugh  wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 at 14:12, Chris Helgesen 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Apologies for bothering the developer's list with this. I have a Hurco
> KM3
> > I did a LinuxCNC-based retrofit on during the Jurassic period. I need to
> > replace the host PC, and I've reached the end of the road for my Mesa PCI
> > interface card.
>
>
> Have you looked at the (in-stock) 5i24?
>
> Should be a straight swap for whatever PCI card you are using.
> Or is the problem a lack of PCI slots in replacement PCs?
>
> --
> atp
> "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed
> for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
> — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912
>
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Re: [Emc-developers] Mesa 7I80HDT needed

2023-04-18 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 at 14:12, Chris Helgesen 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Apologies for bothering the developer's list with this. I have a Hurco KM3
> I did a LinuxCNC-based retrofit on during the Jurassic period. I need to
> replace the host PC, and I've reached the end of the road for my Mesa PCI
> interface card.


Have you looked at the (in-stock) 5i24?

Should be a straight swap for whatever PCI card you are using.
Or is the problem a lack of PCI slots in replacement PCs?

-- 
atp
"A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed
for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics."
— George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912

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Re: [Emc-developers] Mesa 7I80HDT needed

2023-04-18 Thread Peter C. Wallace

On Tue, 18 Apr 2023, Chris Helgesen wrote:


Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2023 09:09:45 -0400
From: Chris Helgesen 
Reply-To: EMC developers 
To: EMC developers 
Subject: [Emc-developers] Mesa 7I80HDT needed

Hello,

Apologies for bothering the developer's list with this. I have a Hurco KM3
I did a LinuxCNC-based retrofit on during the Jurassic period. I need to
replace the host PC, and I've reached the end of the road for my Mesa PCI
interface card.

Does anyone have a new or fully-functional Mesa 7I80HDT they would be
willing to sell? I'm told the lead time is currently around two months. I
need the 50-pin dual-row headers for existing ribbon cables to a Mesa servo
card and two Opto-22 I/O boards.

I could make this very easy for anyone going to the LinuxCNC meeting at
Tormach, as Steve Stallings will be there and has kindly offered to pick
stuff up for me.

While I'm here, many thanks to all the developers for the excellent work
and support!

Chris Helgesen

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We have one left (kept from the proto run to duplicate customer issues)
But by now I dont think there are any issues, so I can put it on our 
webstore later today.



Peter Wallace
Mesa Electronics


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[Emc-developers] Mesa 7I80HDT needed

2023-04-18 Thread Chris Helgesen
Hello,

Apologies for bothering the developer's list with this. I have a Hurco KM3
I did a LinuxCNC-based retrofit on during the Jurassic period. I need to
replace the host PC, and I've reached the end of the road for my Mesa PCI
interface card.

Does anyone have a new or fully-functional Mesa 7I80HDT they would be
willing to sell? I'm told the lead time is currently around two months. I
need the 50-pin dual-row headers for existing ribbon cables to a Mesa servo
card and two Opto-22 I/O boards.

I could make this very easy for anyone going to the LinuxCNC meeting at
Tormach, as Steve Stallings will be there and has kindly offered to pick
stuff up for me.

While I'm here, many thanks to all the developers for the excellent work
and support!

Chris Helgesen

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