Dumb Question

1996-04-27 Thread Victor L. Boersma
In the grey past, we obtained certification/listing from our 
friendly certification houses.  If we thought that something 
was wrong with the application of an old standard to a new product,
we would have a heart-to-heart talk with our certification 
organization.  If we had a good, solid and valid argument, chances 
were that our certification organization would agree and certify us
to the spirit of the standard.  In addition, it was likely that our
certification organization would propose changes to the standard, to
rectify the anomaly.

In the brave new world of "Declaration of Conformity", the only
time you have to explain yourself is, when you get caught.

The question will be whether the regulatory police will consist of
intelligent people who think like you, or will they be dummies who
think unlike you ?

If they think unlike you, your organization may be in for 
extraordinarily expensive times, where the fact that they don't
have you on the payroll any longer, will not offset the costs.

Question:

How are we going to best protect our owners and ourselves in this new
environment  


Ciao,


Vic  Boersma 


Re: NPF Returns

1996-04-27 Thread Bill Lyons
In message  "Steve Chin" writes:

> I have a dumb question. How do the EU directives apply to a unit that was 
> put into service prior to Jan. 1, 1996 (without a CE mark on it), which 
> has been returned to its US manufacturer for serveice, and is being 
> returned to its owner with No Problem Found (no repair work was performed 
> on the unit, only an examination for functionality). Does a unit found to 
> be NPF need to have a CE mark applied to it before it can be sent back to 
> its owner?  

Definitely not.  In fact no CE mark is required even if it is repaired as 
long as it is only returned to the original specification.  Essentially, 
it is second-hand equipment originally "placed on the market" before 
1.1.1996 and therefore still exempt.

It is only if the unit was modified or upgraded that it would be treated 
as newly "placed on the market" and would therefore require CE marking.

The UK official interpretation of this point is Q11 in Section 11 of the 
FAQ "Sources of EMC and Safety Compliance Information" which is now 
regularly posted to the sci.engr.electrical.compliance newsgroup (last 
posted 20 April) and which will be archived at 

http://world.std.com/~techbook/compliance_faq.html

Regards, Bill Lyons.

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