Re: Australian Requirements
Reply to: REAustralian Requirements Other AUSTEL approved labs who are not members of the CB scheme may also accept the CB reports, and review and endorse them for use by AUSTEL. Regards, Tom Smith Nortel Product Integrity, Calgary Austel ALE -- List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: 6/23/96 6:26 AM To: Tom Smith From: Kevin Richardson - E X T E R N A L L Y O R I G I N A T E D M E S S A G E - AUSTEL does not accept CB reports as such however they will accept reports from NAMAS approved labs in the UK and any other lab which has been accredited by an organization with a MOU (Memorandum of Understanding) with NATA (Australian NAMAS equivalent). As I mentioned in a previous message, there are presently 2 CB accredited labs in Australia. They can produce their own report from a report from another CB lab. Regards, Kevin Kevin RichardsonPh:043-29-4070 Stanimore Pty Limited Fax: 043-28-5639 The Technology Requirements Specialists Int'l: +61-43-xx- Email: Internet: 100356@compuserve.comCompuserve: 100356,374 -- Forwarded Message -- From: Joe Dwyer/Inter-Tel, INTERNET:joe_dwyer%inter-tel.inter-...@ns.inter-tel.com TO: Kevin Richardson, 100356,374 CC: EMC-PSTC - IEEE, INTERNET:emc-p...@ieee.org DATE: 21/06/96 4:01 PM RE: Re: Australian Requirements Sender: joe_dwyer%inter-tel.inter-...@ns.inter-tel.com Received: from uucp.primenet.com (uucp.primenet.com [204.245.3.11]) by arl-img-4.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id PAA20077; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:32:47 -0400 Received: from inter-tel.com (uucp@localhost) by uucp.primenet.com (8.7.5/8.7.1) with UUCP id MAA05929 for 100356@compuserve.com; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:29:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from ns.inter-tel.com by inter-tel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11568; Fri, 21 Jun 96 12:16:53 MST Received: by ns.inter-tel.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0202; Fri, 21 Jun 96 12:03:47 -0700 Message-Id: 9606211903.aa0...@ns.inter-tel.com Received: from Inter-Tel with Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP id F6681981E1A1D45C0725635000651268; Fri, 21 Jun 96 12:03:47 To: Kevin Richardson 100356@compuserve.com Cc: EMC-PSTC - IEEE emc-p...@ieee.org From: Joe Dwyer/Inter-Tel joe_dwyer%inter-tel.inter-...@ns.inter-tel.com List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: 21 Jun 96 11:56:05 MS Subject: Re: Australian Requirements Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain I would like to add/ask for some clarification to the CB scheme. I have seen this work very well for Information Technology Equipment (ITE). I have had some bad experience with the Telephone Terminal Equipment (TTE). The bad experience was 2 - 3 years ago when we tried to use it with TTE in Australia, at that time Austel did not recognize the CB Scheme. The Standards Australia did accept the CB Scheme for ITE. I know there have been several changes in Australia and I have not been getting approvals in Australia for the last 2 years. Has there been a change? Does Austel accept the CB Scheme? The UK was the same way. BABT did not accept the CB Scheme but British Electrotechnical Approval Board does, I presume for ITE. Now it has moved to a self declare in the EU so the CB Scheme would work for ITE and TTE. As long as the report is done the EN60950. TIPS Whoever does the CB Scheme for you, UL, CSA, DEMKO, etc can provide a list of the countries AND the regulatory bodies in the country that accept the CB Scheme. Make sure the CB Scheme is done to the standards of ALL the countries you intend to go, for ITE this is easier then TTE. Make sure ALL the national deviations are included in the test report. Anybody else want to add to this list? Joe Dwyer Sr. Engineer International Approvals Inter-Tel. Tel:+1 602 961 9000 x1235 7300 West Boston Street Fax:+1 602 961 1370 Chandler, AZ 85226 U.S.A. Internet: dw...@inter-tel.com www.inter-tel.com Inter-Tel designs and sells PBX and Hybrid Telephone equipment worldwide. To: emc-pstc @ ieee.org (EMC-PSTC - IEEE) @ SMTP cc: From: 100356.374 @ compuserve.com (Kevin Richardson) @ SMTP List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: 06/21/96 02:16:41 AM Subject: Re: Australian Requirements Some time ago Brian Kunde wrote about Australia accepting IEC CB reports. I must apologize firstly that I have taken this long to respond. I have been overseas for a week. Brian is correct. It is possible to use an IEC CB report, gained from an IEC CB accredited test house. Such reports can only be accepted however by the IEC CB recognised labs in Australia. They can not be authorized/accepted by all labs in Australia. There are presently two labs in Australia and one in
Re: Australian Requirements
I believe there is a confusion factor creeping into this debate. Neither AUSTEL, OFTEL in the UK, the FCC in the US or Industry Canada have any business accepting IECEE CB certificates. IECEE CB certificates pertain only to Electrical Safety. The agreement to accept such certificates is between participating PRIVATE SECTOR organizations. BSI, VDE, UL, ETL, CSA and such organizations are members of the scheme and are expected to accept certificates from other members, and allow the manufacturer to affix the mark of the national organization in the receiving country. For example, upon receipt of a certificate from UL, that the equipment has passed all applicable requirements with respect to Electrical Safety in Germany, VDE will allow an American manufacturer to affix the VDE mark to such equipment (provided the proper follow-up procedures are in place etc., etc.) The appropriate German Telecom authorities have nothing to do with how the American manufacturer obtained the right to affix the VDE mark, they only note that the equipment does carry that mark with the permission of VDE. In many countries, telecom equipment will not be approved to the telecom requirements, UNLESS, it has first been approved w.r.t. electrical safety and EMC. The IECEE CB scheme, so far, can only be used for the electrical safety part. Regards, Vic
Re: Australian Requirements
AUSTEL does not accept CB reports as such however they will accept reports from NAMAS approved labs in the UK and any other lab which has been accredited by an organization with a MOU (Memorandum of Understanding) with NATA (Australian NAMAS equivalent). As I mentioned in a previous message, there are presently 2 CB accredited labs in Australia. They can produce their own report from a report from another CB lab. Regards, Kevin Kevin RichardsonPh:043-29-4070 Stanimore Pty Limited Fax: 043-28-5639 The Technology Requirements Specialists Int'l: +61-43-xx- Email: Internet: 100356@compuserve.comCompuserve: 100356,374 -- Forwarded Message -- From: Joe Dwyer/Inter-Tel, INTERNET:joe_dwyer%inter-tel.inter-...@ns.inter-tel.com TO: Kevin Richardson, 100356,374 CC: EMC-PSTC - IEEE, INTERNET:emc-p...@ieee.org DATE: 21/06/96 4:01 PM RE: Re: Australian Requirements Sender: joe_dwyer%inter-tel.inter-...@ns.inter-tel.com Received: from uucp.primenet.com (uucp.primenet.com [204.245.3.11]) by arl-img-4.compuserve.com (8.6.10/5.950515) id PAA20077; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 15:32:47 -0400 Received: from inter-tel.com (uucp@localhost) by uucp.primenet.com (8.7.5/8.7.1) with UUCP id MAA05929 for 100356@compuserve.com; Fri, 21 Jun 1996 12:29:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from ns.inter-tel.com by inter-tel.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11568; Fri, 21 Jun 96 12:16:53 MST Received: by ns.inter-tel.com (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.3.2)/1.0) id AA0202; Fri, 21 Jun 96 12:03:47 -0700 Message-Id: 9606211903.aa0...@ns.inter-tel.com Received: from Inter-Tel with Lotus Notes Mail Gateway for SMTP id F6681981E1A1D45C0725635000651268; Fri, 21 Jun 96 12:03:47 To: Kevin Richardson 100356@compuserve.com Cc: EMC-PSTC - IEEE emc-p...@ieee.org From: Joe Dwyer/Inter-Tel joe_dwyer%inter-tel.inter-...@ns.inter-tel.com List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: 21 Jun 96 11:56:05 MS Subject: Re: Australian Requirements Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain I would like to add/ask for some clarification to the CB scheme. I have seen this work very well for Information Technology Equipment (ITE). I have had some bad experience with the Telephone Terminal Equipment (TTE). The bad experience was 2 - 3 years ago when we tried to use it with TTE in Australia, at that time Austel did not recognize the CB Scheme. The Standards Australia did accept the CB Scheme for ITE. I know there have been several changes in Australia and I have not been getting approvals in Australia for the last 2 years. Has there been a change? Does Austel accept the CB Scheme? The UK was the same way. BABT did not accept the CB Scheme but British Electrotechnical Approval Board does, I presume for ITE. Now it has moved to a self declare in the EU so the CB Scheme would work for ITE and TTE. As long as the report is done the EN60950. TIPS Whoever does the CB Scheme for you, UL, CSA, DEMKO, etc can provide a list of the countries AND the regulatory bodies in the country that accept the CB Scheme. Make sure the CB Scheme is done to the standards of ALL the countries you intend to go, for ITE this is easier then TTE. Make sure ALL the national deviations are included in the test report. Anybody else want to add to this list? Joe Dwyer Sr. Engineer International Approvals Inter-Tel. Tel:+1 602 961 9000 x1235 7300 West Boston Street Fax:+1 602 961 1370 Chandler, AZ 85226 U.S.A. Internet: dw...@inter-tel.com www.inter-tel.com Inter-Tel designs and sells PBX and Hybrid Telephone equipment worldwide. To: emc-pstc @ ieee.org (EMC-PSTC - IEEE) @ SMTP cc: From: 100356.374 @ compuserve.com (Kevin Richardson) @ SMTP List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: 06/21/96 02:16:41 AM Subject: Re: Australian Requirements Some time ago Brian Kunde wrote about Australia accepting IEC CB reports. I must apologize firstly that I have taken this long to respond. I have been overseas for a week. Brian is correct. It is possible to use an IEC CB report, gained from an IEC CB accredited test house. Such reports can only be accepted however by the IEC CB recognised labs in Australia. They can not be authorized/accepted by all labs in Australia. There are presently two labs in Australia and one in New Zealand. such labs, when presented with a report from another (overseas) CB accredited lab would examine the report to ensure all Australian requirements (deviations or variations to the relevant internationl standard) were in fact tested and then produce a report under their letterhead stating compliance. Regards, Kevin Kevin Richardson Ph:043-29-4070 Stanimore Pty Limited Fax: 043-28-5639 The
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