Re: Small 1000-4-3 Chamber

1997-06-06 Thread jeichner

Thanks Tony - I've e-mailed him and if I get a subscription address of any 
form I'll let the forum know.

Jim Eichner
Statpower Technologies Corporation
jeich...@statpower.com
Any opinions expressed are those of my invisible friend


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From: TonyOhar@anetMHS (Tony J. O'Hara){MHS:tonyoh...@compuserve.com}
To: emc-pstc@anetMHS (IEEE list server){MHS:emc-p...@ieee.org}; JEichner; 
bceresne
Subject: Re: Small 1000-4-3 Chamber
List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org
Date: Thursday, June 05, 1997 5:05PM

Jim Eichner asked if I had subscription inf. etc. for the mag.  Test &
Measurement Europe. I'm afraid I don't, only the pages of the article were
mailed to me, by Chase USA! However, my previous e-mail asked for help
here, and I have now noticed that the article's author David Marsh, can be
contacted at 101453.2...@compuserve.com
Hope this helps
Tony O'Hara
EMC Sales Engineer, Colorado


DCC Corporation

1997-06-06 Thread FRANK_DOMINGUEZ
Item Subject: cc:Mail Text
 
 We have a "HotSpot TC Welder" from DCC Corporation.  Does anyone have 
 a current phone number for this company?
 
 Regards,
 Frank Dominguez


Subscription address: T$M Europe

1997-06-06 Thread Lars Lidstroem
Hello everybody,

Here are some addresses to Test £ Measurement Europe:

Europe:
Cahners Publishing
Netherlands, Postbus 9000
2130 DB Hoofddorp
The Netherlands

US:
Cahners Publishing
PO Box 7601
Highlands Ranch, CO 80126 USA
phone +1 303 470 4604
fax +1 303 470 4468


or try http://www.cahnersconnection.com

Yours,

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!   Lars Lidstroem  email: la...@nocrc.abb.no !
!   ABB Corporate Research  TEL:   +47 66 84 34 26!
!   PO Box 90   FAX:   +47 66 84 35 41!
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Re: EMC REGULATIONS IN TAIWAN

1997-06-06 Thread Craig Stephens
  Yes it is correct,  but you can get your lab accredited.
  
  Craig


__ Reply Separator _
Subject: EMC REGULATIONS IN TAIWAN
Author:  owner-emc-p...@mail.ieee.org at dell_unix
List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org
Date:6/5/97 4:26 PM


 Greetings everyone!

 I have read in the Compliance Engineering 1997 Reference Guide (and
 I'm sure that most of you have, too) that Taiwan is implementing EMC
 regulations which require a type-approval certificate from the Bureau
 of Commodity Inspection and Quarantine (BCIQ) for just about any
 electronic product.  According to the article, only emissions are
 covered at this time and, like other countries entering the EMC
 regulation arena, the IEC/CISPR standards are being copied.  However,
 the article also states that the BCIQ  presently only accepts test
 data from BCIQ accredited laboratories and that these laboratories
 only exist in Taiwan.  (Does this sound like protectionism?)  They are
 apparently phasing in mandatory compliance for different product
 categories: January 1, 1997 for copiers, July 1, 1997 for ITE, fax
 machines, TV's/radios, January 1, 1998 for appliances, phones and
 audio equipment, and July 1, 1998 for everything else.

 Question #1: Can anyone confirm that the above information is still
 accurate (i.e. that the situation hasn't changed since the article was
 written)?

 Question #2: Does anyone know if there is a "grace period" for
 products already being marketed in Taiwan?

 Question #3:  Can anyone give us an idea how difficult it may be to
 obtain the BCIQ type-approval certificate?

 Thank you.


 __
 Jim HulbertTel:203-924-3621
 Senior Engineer - EMC  Fax:203-924-3352
 Pitney Bowes   email:  hulbe...@pb.com
 P.O. Box 3000
 35 Waterview Drive
 Shelton, CT  06484-8000  U.S.A.


RE: EMC REGULATIONS IN TAIWAN

1997-06-06 Thread Grasso, Charles (Chaz)
Hi Jim,

I have actively pursuing info on the BCIQ & would be happy to share what
I have "unearthed". Most of this information is as a result of
conversation with an officer at the BCIQ.

> Question #1: Can anyone confirm that the above information is still 
> accurate (i.e. that the situation hasn't changed since the article was 
> written)?

The situation IS accurate.
> 
> Question #2: Does anyone know if there is a "grace period" for 
> products already being marketed in Taiwan?

There is NO "grace period per se. However, if your product is
physically IN Taiwan ROC BEFORE
the requisite date (e.g. in a warehouse) then you may install the
product after the date WITHOUT accreditation.
You will not be able to import product INTO Taiwan ROC AFTER that date.

> 
> Question #3:  Can anyone give us an idea how difficult it may be to 
> obtain the BCIQ type-approval certificate?
> 
The BCIQ have provided some relief. The BCIQ have a "temporary" EME lab
accredidation process. If the lab
is NVLAP approved, then they will grant a one year temporary
accrediadation for the lab. This is a paperwork
exercise and should take 2-3 weeks.

Now, after the lab has the accreditation, you make use data from that
lab as a submittal for your product.
I have also been told that you may use data taken PRIOR to the lab
accreditation as long as the test report
from the lab is dated AFTER the accreditation.

"Type approval" certification should take 3-4 weeks AFTER receipt at
the BCIQ.

Oh by the way they do NOT like to do buisness DIRECTLY with a
manufacturer. You will need some kind
of lab/consulting service in Taipai to talk with the BCIQ. I was
politely moved off in that direction!!


>They have a website. It is http://www.moeabciq.gov.tw/

Charles Grasso
EMC Engineer
StorageTek
Tel:(303)673-2908
Fax(303)661-7115

>--
>From:  Jim Hulbert[SMTP:hulbe...@pb.com]
>Sent:  Thursday, June 05, 1997 3:19 PM
>To:emc-p...@ieee.org
>Subject:   EMC REGULATIONS IN TAIWAN
>
> Greetings everyone!
> 
> I have read in the Compliance Engineering 1997 Reference Guide (and 
> I'm sure that most of you have, too) that Taiwan is implementing EMC 
> regulations which require a type-approval certificate from the Bureau 
> of Commodity Inspection and Quarantine (BCIQ) for just about any 
> electronic product.  According to the article, only emissions are 
> covered at this time and, like other countries entering the EMC 
> regulation arena, the IEC/CISPR standards are being copied.  However, 
> the article also states that the BCIQ  presently only accepts test 
> data from BCIQ accredited laboratories and that these laboratories 
> only exist in Taiwan.  (Does this sound like protectionism?)  They are 
> apparently phasing in mandatory compliance for different product 
> categories: January 1, 1997 for copiers, July 1, 1997 for ITE, fax 
> machines, TV's/radios, January 1, 1998 for appliances, phones and 
> audio equipment, and July 1, 1998 for everything else.
> 
> Question #1: Can anyone confirm that the above information is still 
> accurate (i.e. that the situation hasn't changed since the article was 
> written)?
> 
> Question #2: Does anyone know if there is a "grace period" for 
> products already being marketed in Taiwan?
> 
> Question #3:  Can anyone give us an idea how difficult it may be to 
> obtain the BCIQ type-approval certificate?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> __
> Jim HulbertTel:203-924-3621
> Senior Engineer - EMC  Fax:203-924-3352
> Pitney Bowes   email:  hulbe...@pb.com
> P.O. Box 3000
> 35 Waterview Drive
> Shelton, CT  06484-8000  U.S.A.
> 
>
>
>  
> 
>
>


Identify standards?

1997-06-06 Thread Rich Nute



Hello from San Diego:


Can you identify the name and source/author/owner/organization
and address/phone for these standards?

CEE L183-16
MPR 1990 10
SOP 1171

A customer wants these included in our quote for a system.


Thanks for your help,
Rich




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 Richard Nute Quality Department 
 Hewlett-Packard Company   Product Regulations Group 
 San Diego Division (SDD)  Tel   :  619 655 3329 
 16399 West Bernardo Drive FAX   :  619 655 4979 
 San Diego, California 92127   e-mail:  ri...@sdd.hp.com 
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T and M Europe Magazine

1997-06-06 Thread jeichner

Here's the feedback from 2 sources:

Jim,
The EMC test chamber feature ran in Test & Measurement Europe Magazine,
April/May 1997 issue. The focus was on low cost cells so they're all 
basically
TEM cells, costing around L20k. Some interesting developments from companies
like Wayne Kerr extend the usefulness of classical TEM cells, using dual 
septu

arrangements.
To get more info, contact T&ME's Editorial Assistant, Vicky James, on
101740.1...@compuserve.com
Best regards,
David Marsh

_

Here are some addresses to Test ? Measurement Europe:

Europe:
Cahners Publishing
Netherlands, Postbus 9000
2130 DB Hoofddorp
The Netherlands

US:
Cahners Publishing
PO Box 7601
Highlands Ranch, CO 80126 USA
phone +1 303 470 4604
fax +1 303 470 4468


or try http://www.cahnersconnection.com

Yours,

___
! !
!   Lars Lidstroem  email: la...@nocrc.abb.no !
!   ABB Corporate Research  TEL:   +47 66 84 34 26!
!   PO Box 90   FAX:   +47 66 84 35 41!
!   N-1361 BILLINGSTAD!
!   NORWAY!
!_!



ESD - Membrane switches and LCD Displays

1997-06-06 Thread jeichner

I am looking for some guidance on the following construction:

We have a remote control panel that contains an LCD display (approx. 2" x 
1") mounted on a circuit board behind a metal panel.  An opening in the 
metal panel allows the user to see the screen, and is only marginally larger 
than the display.  Over the metal panel is a laminated label containing some 
membrane switches.  All the circuit traces for the membrane switches are 
approx. 1/2" or more from the edges of the label, and are contained in the 
bottom layer of the label (ie one layer of plastic between them and the 
metal panel).  The ribbon cable from the membrane switch to the pwb is 
routed through a hole in the metal panel.  There is a clear plastic window 
in the label allowing viewing of the LCD and that window is more or less 
touching the glass face of the LCD display.  We don't want to recess the LCD 
because of viewing angle problems.

We are subject to 8kV air discharge and 6kV contact discharge.

1. Does this construction sound like an ESD test failure waiting to happen?

2. Does it make any difference whether or not there is an air space between 
the clear plastic window in the label and the glass face of the LCD display? 
 Should we recess the LCD, and if so, by how much?

3. Are there preferred materials for any of the layers of the membrane 
switch label?

4. Any hints anyone?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,




Jim Eichner
Statpower Technologies Corporation
jeich...@statpower.com
Any opinions expressed are those of my invisible friend


Re: EMC REGULATIONS IN TAIWAN

1997-06-06 Thread Steve Chin
So, Craig, are you saying that it is possible for a lab outside of Taiwan 
to be accredited? I think that I'll see if my favorite EMC lab has the 
BCIQ accredation.

Steve Chin
StreamLogic Corp.
Menlo Park, CA, USA
sc...@streamlogic.com

Craig Stephens (craig_steph...@dell.com) wrote:

>  Yes it is correct,  but you can get your lab accredited.
>  
>  Craig
>
>
>__ Reply Separator 
>_
>Subject: EMC REGULATIONS IN TAIWAN
>Author:  owner-emc-p...@mail.ieee.org at dell_unix
>Date:6/5/97 4:26 PM
>
>
> Greetings everyone!
>
> I have read in the Compliance Engineering 1997 Reference Guide (and
> I'm sure that most of you have, too) that Taiwan is implementing EMC
> regulations which require a type-approval certificate from the Bureau
> of Commodity Inspection and Quarantine (BCIQ) for just about any
> electronic product.  According to the article, only emissions are
> covered at this time and, like other countries entering the EMC
> regulation arena, the IEC/CISPR standards are being copied.  However,
> the article also states that the BCIQ  presently only accepts test
> data from BCIQ accredited laboratories and that these laboratories
> only exist in Taiwan.  (Does this sound like protectionism?)  They are
> apparently phasing in mandatory compliance for different product
> categories: January 1, 1997 for copiers, July 1, 1997 for ITE, fax
> machines, TV's/radios, January 1, 1998 for appliances, phones and
> audio equipment, and July 1, 1998 for everything else.
>
> Question #1: Can anyone confirm that the above information is still
> accurate (i.e. that the situation hasn't changed since the article was
> written)?
>
> Question #2: Does anyone know if there is a "grace period" for
> products already being marketed in Taiwan?
>
> Question #3:  Can anyone give us an idea how difficult it may be to
> obtain the BCIQ type-approval certificate?
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> __
> Jim HulbertTel:203-924-3621
> Senior Engineer - EMC  Fax:203-924-3352
> Pitney Bowes   email:  hulbe...@pb.com
> P.O. Box 3000
> 35 Waterview Drive
> Shelton, CT  06484-8000  U.S.A.


Re: ESD Testing in the Production Lines

1997-06-06 Thread Alessandro Agostini


I' m sure many people have experienced faults in ESD testing, so that they
are not a good habit in production lines.

I also experienced rare faults in testing some equipment to the EFT/B
(IEC 1000-4-4) at test levels of 500V to signal output lines.
Sometimes in fact the op. amps. connected to the ouput appeared to be damaged
but only after some days.
Did any of you experienced anything similar ?

-
All what above is only my opinion and thus probably wrong! :-)

Alessandro Agostini
Italponti
Firenze (Italy)


Re: DCC Corporation

1997-06-06 Thread Naftali Shani
 Reply to:   RE>DCC Corporation


Frank,

DCC Corp. is located at 7300 N. Crescent Blvd., Pennsauken, NJ 08110.
Their phone # is: +609-662-7272
Their fax # is: +609-662-7862

Naftali Shani
Nortel technology
Brampton, Ontario

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Date: 1997-06-05 7:35 PM
To: Naftali Shani
From: FRANK_DOMINGUEZ@HP-Greeley-om2
Item Subject: cc:Mail Text

 We have a "HotSpot TC Welder" from DCC Corporation.  Does anyone have
 a current phone number for this company?

 Regards,
 Frank Dominguez