Re: EMI Site Interference

1998-03-26 Thread macy

It can be conducted overwhelming the spectrum analyzer (although unlikely)

It could be large amplitude at an IF frequency (thus the broadband
everywhere symptom)

Might try a portable tuned receiver and start searching for the origin.

  - Robert -

On Thu, 26 Mar 1998, Scott Douglas wrote:

 Hello Group - 
 
 Here's a problem for you all to think about and hopefully help solve.
 
 I have a room in the corner of my building where I perform EMI pre-scans.
 Occasionally throughout the day I have a major interference show up on my
 analyzer. It does not come from the EUT. This is broadband, from 30 MHz to
 1 GHz, at levels up to 70 or 80 dBuv. It is not like a flat carrier but
 rather more like PWM driven motor noise. It lasts from 15 seconds to 1
 minute in duration. Then ambient returns to normal.
 
 We are a typical ITE manufacture. Our Genrad tester, wave solder, air
 compressors, motor generators, air conditioners, plumbing waste pumps do
 not appear to be the cause although none have been absolutely ruled out.
 The frequency and duration would seem to eliminate them however.
 
 We have swamp on one side, the interstate highway on another, fields on
 the third and the town on the last side. The only potential source I can
 find is a medical clinic about 350 meters away from us. They are the
 nearest building (the next being twice that far) and have an X-ray
 machine. Yesterday I went there at lunch and asked was the X-ray in use
 that day and they said yes but could not tell me a specific time that it
 was used.
 
 A software engineer here tells me that he has experienced radio problems
 in the parking lot outside my corner of the building. When he parks in a
 certain spot, his FM radio (the entire band) gets wiped out by a
 zhhzhhzhhh kind of noise. Move the car several feet any direction the
 problem goes away. This closely resembles what I see on the analyzer. Our
 analog guru suggests it is not the x-ray system as x-rays only last a few
 seconds. A one minute x-ray would burn you up he says.
 
 I never noticed this interference in another corner room of my building
 diagonally opposite my present location nor have I noticed the FM radio
 problem myself.
 
 Questions:
 1.What are the possible sources of such interference?
 2.Is the problem radiated or conducted? I suspect radiated as the signal
 goes away when you disconnect the antenna from the analyzer.
 4.Why does this problem show up in only a small specific location on our
 property?
 4.What are the potential solutions?
 
 I will be happy to answer any other questions you think of (if I can) and
 I look forward to the interesting comments I will receive from you all.
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Scott Douglas
 s_doug...@ecrm.com
 
 


Re: ITE vs Israel

1998-03-26 Thread George Stults
I recently contacted Alan Clayman with Israel Testing Labratories
web page: www.itl.co.il
concerning another question and he was most helpful.

There can be more involved than just meeting the regulations, once you
find out what they are. 
There may also be other government approvals in order to ship to Israel.

Based on my brief experience thus far, it appears that if you meet 
FCC  UL/CSA requirements, you are at least well begun.

-- 
George Stults
HW Test Engr.
CTS, Seattle WA


RE: FDA Modernization Program

1998-03-26 Thread Mike Hopkins
Try http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/ode/parad501.html I think that will give you
the complete information. You can also try www.aami.org.


Mike Hopkins
mhopk...@keytek.com


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 Subject:  FDA Modernization Program
 
 
 
 
 
 From Lotus Notes user: Michael J Sitarski
 
 Does anyone know about the FDA Modernization Program regarding Medical
 Devices?  Does it pertain to EMC?  Can you direct me to a source of
 further
 information?  Thank you in advance for your responses.


Re: EMI Site Interference

1998-03-26 Thread MikonCons
Scott:

Here's a couple of comments and suggested possibilities to investigate in
tracking down the source of your problems.

1.  Check the turn-on time (not X-ray operation time) for the X-ray equipment.
The operator may turn on the unit, take one exposure, change film and set up
for a second exposure, take the second exposure and then shut down the unit.
That might account for the one minute (or so) duration.

2.  Check out any low-power, automatic, motor-driven vent controls in your air
conditioning system that may (only occasionally) come on during the day.
Noisy, brushed motors may be used for such operations.

3.  Don't rule out local sources generating power line conducted emissions
yet.  When the interference appears, quickly switch to a current probe and
sense the AC line cord noise/current.  Note the levels during and after the
interference.  Your AC line filter internal to the spectrum analyser may
preclude detection when you disconnect the signal input cable.  If suspicious
current differences are noted, resume your search internal to the company.

4.  Check to see if there are any pump controls nearby for storm drainage flow
control (or other flow control, such as irrigation).  These units are
periodically polled from a remote control site (or operate on timers), and
transmit a status to the remote site via RF links.  I have such a slave valve
site approximately 150 feet from my home and experience periodic bursts of
interference (for 60 to 70 seconds) on multilple TV channels.

Good luck,

Mike Conn
Owner/Principal Consultant
Mikon Consulting


IEC 320 Cordset Lock

1998-03-26 Thread Rick Busche

At one time I remember seeing a cordset lock to keep IEC 320
plugs connected to the receptacle. This was a formed wire assembly which
attached to the mounting threads of the receptacle or filter and snapped
over the cord. Does anyone know if these are still available and if they
present any safety concerns.


Thanks in advance

Rick Busche
rbus...@es.com rbus...@es.com 


Re: EMI Site Interference

1998-03-26 Thread ed . price

--- On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:14:35 -0500  Scott Douglas s_doug...@ecrm.com 
wrote:
 Hello Group - 
 
 Here's a problem for you all to think about and hopefully help solve.
 
 I have a room in the corner of my building where I perform EMI pre-scans.
 Occasionally throughout the day I have a major interference show up on my
 analyzer. It does not come from the EUT. This is broadband, from 30 MHz to
 1 GHz, at levels up to 70 or 80 dBuv. It is not like a flat carrier but
 rather more like PWM driven motor noise. It lasts from 15 seconds to 1
 minute in duration. Then ambient returns to normal.
 
 We are a typical ITE manufacture. Our Genrad tester, wave solder, air
 compressors, motor generators, air conditioners, plumbing waste pumps do
 not appear to be the cause although none have been absolutely ruled out.
 The frequency and duration would seem to eliminate them however.
 
 We have swamp on one side,

Not a likely source ;)

 the interstate highway on another,

could be a very noisy vehicle ignition system which is driven past your 
location several times a day; do you see any schedule to the noise? (If you 
listen to ignition noise, you can actually hear the engine RPM, and you can 
tell an automatic from a manual transmission car. You can hear a vehicle as it 
slows for a curve, etc. Didn't Yogi Berra say that you can hear a lot when you 
listen?)

 fields on the third

again, not likely

 and the town on the last side.

Any complaints about EMI in the town? The noise spectra you are describing 
would create many gripes in an urban environment. Indeed, anything broadband 
enough to cover 30 MHz to 1 GHz is also likely has energy down to 1 MHz. This 
suggests you might be able to use a cheap loopstick antenna AM radio as a 
sniffing tool. The loopstick is quite directional. Practice doing a quick 
bearing sighting on a known location AM radio station. Then, be ready with the 
radio when the noise strikes again.

 The only potential source I can
 find is a medical clinic about 350 meters away from us. They are the
 nearest building (the next being twice that far) and have an X-ray
 machine. Yesterday I went there at lunch and asked was the X-ray in use
 that day and they said yes but could not tell me a specific time that it
 was used.

A reasonable possibility.

 A software engineer

(Uh Ohhh; these are guys who don't believe in harmonics and parasitics!)

 here tells me that he has experienced radio problems
 in the parking lot outside my corner of the building. When he parks in a
 certain spot, his FM radio (the entire band) 

does he ever listen to AM? What about that band?

 gets wiped out by a
 zhhzhhzhhh kind of noise.

And this observation is not time dependent? You can repeat this at any time? 
This would sound more like a multipath wave cancellation node; the direct 
signal plus a reflection cancells the field strength at an unlucky location. 
Move a few feet, and the cancellation goes away. The signal magically emerges 
from the noise. This may be a distraction from your problem.

 Move the car several feet any direction the
 problem goes away. This closely resembles what I see on the analyzer.

And just what do you see on the analyzer? Maybe you could set the analyzer up 
to a normally quiet freq, set the span to zero, trigger on video, and capture 
the time domain view of the signal. Is it random, or do you see pulse 
modulation? Does the PRR suggest anything?

 Our
 analog guru suggests it is not the x-ray system as x-rays only last a few
 seconds. A one minute x-ray would burn you up he says.

Yes, the actual X-ray emission. But maybe the HV power supply runs for a minute 
before the tube is gated on. You may be seeing the spectra of an HV insulation 
breakdown.
 
 I never noticed this interference in another corner room of my building
 diagonally opposite my present location nor have I noticed the FM radio
 problem myself.
 
 Questions:
 1.What are the possible sources of such interference?

Still many; more data is needed. Work with that clinic; at least you should try 
to rule that very likely source.

 2.Is the problem radiated or conducted? I suspect radiated as the signal
 goes away when you disconnect the antenna from the analyzer.

About all that eliminates is an internal spurious in the SA. The path could be 
totally radiated, from far away directly to your test antenna. It could come 
into your building on the powerlines, only to be radiated locally. I could be 
generated locally, with radiated AND conducted components.

 4.Why does this problem show up in only a small specific location on our
 property?

You need more data to substantiate this.

 4.What are the potential solutions?

Find the source.
Fix the source (if the source owner will let you).
Break the path.
Work 3rd shift.
Move out of Dodge.
Live with it.
Fix it in software with a -60dB correction factor.
Retire.
Get promoted.
 
 I will be happy to answer any other questions you think of (if I can) and
 I 

Re: Technical Papers

1998-03-26 Thread ed . price

--- On Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:27:28 +  Paul Smith smi...@stranduk.com wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 Does anybody know where I could get hold of the papers presented at 
 the EMC International Symposium, Sendai, Japan from 1994 ?
 Any information greatly appreciated,
 
 Regards,
 Paul Smith
 EMC Engineer

---End of Original Message-

Paul, what a lucky request!!

You can buy a full set of all symposia records, from 1955 to 1995, on four 
CD-Roms, from either the IEEE (908-981-0060) or Applied Microfilm Corporation 
(617-893-7863)(may be 781-893-7863 now), email at a...@bx.com or their web site 
at amc.bx.com. The cost is $40 for an IEEE member, a bit higher if not.

--
Ed Price
ed.pr...@cubic.com
Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab
Cubic Defense Systems
San Diego, CA.  USA
619-505-2780
List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org
Date: 03/26/98
Time: 12:11:32
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Re: EMI Site Interference

1998-03-26 Thread George . Waters

 The duration, and your location could point to a vehicular source, for 
 example a high power CB, or radio telephone in a vehicle.  


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Hello Group -

Here's a problem for you all to think about and hopefully help solve.

I have a room in the corner of my building where I perform EMI pre-scans.
Occasionally throughout the day I have a major interference show up on my
analyzer. It does not come from the EUT. This is broadband, from 30 MHz to
1 GHz, at levels up to 70 or 80 dBuv. It is not like a flat carrier but
rather more like PWM driven motor noise. It lasts from 15 seconds to 1
minute in duration. Then ambient returns to normal.

We are a typical ITE manufacture. Our Genrad tester, wave solder, air
compressors, motor generators, air conditioners, plumbing waste pumps do
not appear to be the cause although none have been absolutely ruled out.
The frequency and duration would seem to eliminate them however.

We have swamp on one side, the interstate highway on another, fields on
the third and the town on the last side. The only potential source I can
find is a medical clinic about 350 meters away from us. They are the
nearest building (the next being twice that far) and have an X-ray
machine. Yesterday I went there at lunch and asked was the X-ray in use
that day and they said yes but could not tell me a specific time that it
was used.

A software engineer here tells me that he has experienced radio problems
in the parking lot outside my corner of the building. When he parks in a
certain spot, his FM radio (the entire band) gets wiped out by a
zhhzhhzhhh kind of noise. Move the car several feet any direction the
problem goes away. This closely resembles what I see on the analyzer. Our
analog guru suggests it is not the x-ray system as x-rays only last a few
seconds. A one minute x-ray would burn you up he says.

I never noticed this interference in another corner room of my building
diagonally opposite my present location nor have I noticed the FM radio
problem myself.

Questions:
1.  What are the possible sources of such interference?
2.  Is the problem radiated or conducted? I suspect radiated as the signal
goes away when you disconnect the antenna from the analyzer.
4.  Why does this problem show up in only a small specific location on our
property?
4.  What are the potential solutions?

I will be happy to answer any other questions you think of (if I can) and
I look forward to the interesting comments I will receive from you all.
Thanks in advance.

Scott Douglas
s_doug...@ecrm.com


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FDA Modernization Program

1998-03-26 Thread Lou Aiken
A lot of info is on the web, search for FDA.  Then after you are completely 
confused call Walter Snesko at the FDA.  He has a toll free number 800 638 
2041, 
extention 120.  Rgds Lou 

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From Lotus Notes user: Michael J Sitarski

Does anyone know about the FDA Modernization Program regarding Medical
Devices?  Does it pertain to EMC?  Can you direct me to a source of further
information?  Thank you in advance for your responses.



Fwd: Re: Yellow-green ground wire

1998-03-26 Thread Scott Douglas
I am re-posting this message because my email address has been changed.
emc-pstc did not post this message because it came from my new address
which was not in the member list.


Ed,

Here are the ones I use:

For 14 AWG, 41 x 30 str., Grn/Yel, PVC, UL 1015, CSA Type TEW, 600V, 105
deg. C.

Alpha   3079-28
Belden  8916-189
Carol Cable C2105-189

They also make other AWG in the UL 1015 class. Have been using these for
over 10 years now, Once they were special order but now the color is a
standard.

For a distributor try:

Pacer Electronics
1-800-969-6156

Regards,
Scott
s_doug...@ecrm.com


Fwd: Re: IEC 825-1

1998-03-26 Thread Scott Douglas
I am re-posting this message because my email address has been changed.
emc-pstc did not post this message because it came from my new address
which was not in the member list.

Steven,

There is no FCC equivalent to IEC 825-1. By FCC I presume you mean Federal
Communications Commission here in the US. If you want the US equivalent to
IEC 825-1 then you want the A.N.S.I. standard Z136.1. This is a voluntary
standard. If you want the US law regarding lasers then you want 21 CFR
1040.10. Hope this helps.

Regards,
Scott
s_doug...@ecrm.com


ITE vs Israel

1998-03-26 Thread Guy Benjamin
Hello,

Does anyone have experience or knowledge of the Israeli regulation applicable 
to an notebook ITE?

Please differentiation between the AC/DC adapter requirements and the computer 
itself would be appreciated.

Thanks

Regards


Guy Benjamin
XL Computing (Canada) Inc. 



Helmholtz Coils

1998-03-26 Thread James Sketoe
Surely, someone out there has the vector equations describing the
magnetic field iof a classic Helmholtz coil. My vector equations class,
being 30+ years ago, is just too dim. I keep getting the derivation
wrapped around the axle. The centerline equation, H=0.716NI/r, is readily
available; however, I want to analyze the interior volume and, if practical,
the exterior volume.


Jim Sketoe
Boeing Company
(314)925-4735
james.g.ske...@boeing.com


Re: FDA Modernization Program

1998-03-26 Thread martinjp

 Michael,
 
 Try the FDA website at www.fda.gov
 
 Joe Martin
 marti...@perkin-elmer.com


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Date:3/26/98 12:40 PM


 
From Lotus Notes user: Michael J Sitarski
 
Does anyone know about the FDA Modernization Program regarding Medical 
Devices?  Does it pertain to EMC?  Can you direct me to a source of further 
information?  Thank you in advance for your responses.
 
 



Re: any insight appreciated

1998-03-26 Thread Robert Tims
Lisa,
The 10 ohms per square seems high to be critically connected with EMC 
directly..(maybe ESD ONLY???). I would have to say that the move to 20 ohms 
won't have much of an effect
Now, the retest debate is interesting... If you have a TCF, I would 
recommend submitting your changes to the outfit holding your TCF, and letting   
them determine the extent of testing If not, (not knowing much about your
product), I would have to say you would have to seriously consider retesting a 
whole spectrum of tests. Furthermore, if you only tested to old versions of 
standards, other tests may have to be done anyways
Hope this helps,
Regards,
Bob Tims
Compliance Engineer
Ericsson Messaging Systems Inc.  


RE: Required number of pulses per minute

1998-03-26 Thread Mike Hopkins
There is actually another issue regarding repetition rates: MOV's, which
are typically used for AC power mains protectors, have a very low
average power rating. If you surge a MOV at rates of 1 shot/20 seconds
continuously, many of the smaller varistors commonly used will get warm
-- some will get hot.

For this reason, most surge specifications don't require surge testing
at rates faster than one per minute - this keeps the average power very
low, won't affect MOV performance, and keeps the MOV cool!

Mike Hopkins
mhopk...@keytek.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Ing. Gert Gremmen [SMTP:cet...@cetest.nl]
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 10:02 AM
 To:   Dudek, John; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
 Subject:  Re: Required number of pulses per minute 
 
 Hello John and group,
 
 All Surge standards do stop at maximal 1 pulse per minute, BTW most
 surge
 generators
 for compliance to this standard cannot generate much more then 1 pulse
 per
 25-35 seconds.  IEC 1000-4-5 at page 19 lists the req. for surge
 generators.
 
 Open circuit voltage0,5 -- 4.0 kV
 Tolerance  10%
 Waveform: surge  1.2/50 and 8/20 uS
 voltage/current
 resp.
 SC current   : 0.25 kA to 2.0 kA
 Tolerance 10%
 Polarity  pos/neg
 Phase shifting  : 0-360 degrees from LINE
 Output impedance 2 ohm
 Repetition rate :  at least 1 per min
 
 So a generator giving 1 pulse per minute suffices for testing acc. to
 this
 standard.
 
 Standards can be bought at every standardization institute in Europe.
 
 Try f.i. the Dutch NNIhttp://www.nni.nl
 
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Gert Gremmen Ing.
 
 ---
 == Ce-test, Qualified testing ==
 Consultants in EMC, Electrical safety and Telecommunication
 Compliance tests for European standards and ce-marking
 Our Web presence: http://www.cetest.nl
 
 
 
 
 
 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Dudek, John jo...@cor.com
 Aan: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org' emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
 Datum: woensdag 25 maart 1998 7:08
 Onderwerp: Required number of pulses per minute
 
 
  Hello everyone,
 
  Maybe someone in the group knows the following information.
 
  IEC 1000-4-5 (and the European Norm EN 61000-4-5) prescribes
 tests for simulating the effects of voltage surges caused by
 switching
 disturbances in the power station. I am trying to identify the
 number
 of pulses per minute when applying test surges to industrial
 equipment. My searching has resulted in the following answers:
 
 1. at least one per minute
 2. 6 pulses per minute
 3. 10 pulses per minute
 4. 12 pulses per minute
 
 I have also been told that there is a new edition of EN 500082-2
 (issued
 1997) that might provide this information.  However, the usual
 documentation sources only have the 1995 edition of this standard.
 
 My two questions are:
 
 1. Where can I find the number of pulses per minute defined for
 industrial equipment when applying IEC 1000-4-5 or EN 61000-4-5 ?
 Or does anyone know this number?
 
 2. Does anyone have a 1997 edition of EN 500082-2 ?  If you do,
 where were you able to purchase it??
 
  Thanks to anyone that can offer their input.
 
 John F. Dudek
 Manager, Product Safety Engineering
 Corcom Inc.
 Libertyville, Ill. USA
 voice: 847-680-7400, ext. 134
 fax: 847-680-8169 (general) or 847-680-0340 (direct)
 Mailto:jo...@cor.com
 Visit us at http://www.cor.com
 
 


IEC 1010, clearance switching power supllies

1998-03-26 Thread Eric Henning

OK, I admit, i'm confused.  trying to figure out clearance on a switching
power tranformer using IEC 1010 according to Annex D2, D4.

120/240Vac input goes thru rectifier comes out at max 390 Vdc into 
switching tranformer.  Assuming Overvoltage III and Pollution 2
using Table D.6 at 600V, clearance is 5.5mm.  Paragraph D.2 allows for 
interpolation which would bring the 5.5 mm down some.  But para. D.2 
refers you to para D.4.  The first sentence is straight forward bit the next 
sentence that begins with However is where my mind goes numb, and then to get 
referred to D.5 is the icing on the cake.

So the question basically is - am I stuck using the 600V value from table D6 or
can I interpolate a value between 300 and 600V on Table D6?

thanks for any insight that may unstick my brain and get the blood circulating
again.

eric
henn...@fp.com


FW: Safety Requirements in SA.

1998-03-26 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
More official information.

 --
 From: LYONSWM Wimpie Lyons[SMTP:lyon...@mail.sabs.co.za]
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 1998 3:56 PM
 To:   WOODS, RICHARD
 Subject:  Safety Requirements in SA.
 
 Dear Mr. Woods
 
 It is of great concern to me that you did not receive my E-mail
 message 
 which was sent to both you and your SA agent. Please confirm receipt
 of 
 this message.
 
 We accept both the IEC and EN specifications as proof of compliance.
 In 
 the case of a product being tested against EN60 950 we  require from
 the 
 company to apply for a sales permit due to the SABS adopting the IEC
 set 
 of specifications. It is a matter of administration only. This covers 
 both the importer and the SABS.
 
 *  Government Gazette no. 17548, Notice no. R1792 of 8 November 1996. 
 Please supply me with your fax number.
 *  The only deviation is the plug. We adopted the document as is.
 *  It is a precondition for import. We want to get rid of the fly by 
 nights.
 *  Factory surveillance is not a requirement. We issue a letter of 
 authority based on the test report.
 *  No mandatory compliance marks are enforced.
 *  The letter of authority will be presented at Customs through your 
 company's Clearing agent.
 *  The local agent will forward the documents for my attention upon
 which 
 we will issue the letters if the test reports were found to be
 proof 
 of compliance.
 
 The contact person at the SABS is myself.
 
 Please do not hesitate to contact me should you require further 
 information.
 
 Yours faithfully
 Wimpie Lyons
 Manager: Electronic Engineering and Physics:
 Inspection Services Division.
 E-mail: lyon...@sabs.co.za
 


Re: Measuring the Noise level of an ITE PC or Workstation

1998-03-26 Thread CTL
Are you speaking of audio or rf noise?

-Original Message-
From: Kamran Mohajer kamran_moha...@netpower.com
To: EMC-Pstc (E-mail) emc-p...@ieee.org; TREG (E-mail)
t...@world.std.com
List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 1998 7:21 PM
Subject: Measuring the Noise level of an ITE PC or Workstation


Fellow Engineers,

I would like to find out what standard is being used for measuring noise
levels for ITE equipment these days.  In particular, I am interested in
noise level measurement for PCs and workstations.  Are there any labs in
the
northern California or in California that could do this test?  I would
appreciate your input on this matter.

Regards,

Kamran Mohajer, M.Sc.
Staff Engineer
NeTpower Inc.,
545 Oakmead Parkway
Sunnyvale, CA 94086
Tel:408-522-5185
Fax:408-522-4135
kamran_moha...@netpower.com



FDA Modernization Program

1998-03-26 Thread sitarski

From Lotus Notes user: Michael J Sitarski

Does anyone know about the FDA Modernization Program regarding Medical
Devices?  Does it pertain to EMC?  Can you direct me to a source of further
information?  Thank you in advance for your responses.



Re:Yellow-green ground wire

1998-03-26 Thread kbj
Dear Ed,

Try;
 Belden Montreal
4150 Ste. Catherine Ouest, Suite 420
Westmount, Quebec H3Z 2Y5

Phone 514-935-6372
Fax: 514-935-5706

or

Carol cables

Best regards,

Mr. Kim Boll Jensen
ScanView, Denmark  


Technical Papers

1998-03-26 Thread Paul Smith
Hello all,

Does anybody know where I could get hold of the papers presented at 
the EMC International Symposium, Sendai, Japan from 1994 ?
Any information greatly appreciated,

Regards,
Paul Smith
EMC Engineer

Strand Lighting Ltd,
Mitchelston Industrial Estate,
Kirkcaldy. Fife. KY1 3LY

Tel: 01592 652333
Fax: 01592 653528
e-mail: smi...@stranduk.com


Re: any insight appreciated

1998-03-26 Thread Ing. Gert Gremmen

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: Cefalo, Lisa cefa...@mksinst.com
Aan: emc-p...@ieee.org emc-p...@ieee.org
Datum: donderdag 26 maart 1998 3:25
Onderwerp: any insight appreciated 


 
 Hello all,
 
I was wondering if any of you may have some insight or experience 
 or recommendations about the following dilemma:   We use a rather 
 complex keypad/front panel on one of our pieces of equipment.  This 
 panel, in it's manufacture, consists of several different layers, 
 polycarbonate, adhesive. etc..  One of these layers is a shielding 
 material spec'd at 10ohms per square. 

This is very high compared to a metal enclosure: you can expect that it does 
not contribute 
very much to total screening fo EMI. From EMI point of view this is almost an 
opening.


 We would like to go to a 20 
 ohms per square material but are cautious about the potential effects 
 on the EMC characteristics (emissions, esd, etc.).  

For ESD this is not bad too. Goal in ESD  is to get rid of fieldstrength
esp. for LCD displays, and to reduce discharge current. Both are met for 10 and 
20 ohms
per square, the latter even better. Immunity is always better when no direct 
discharge
can take place on the conductive part of the foil.

 The window itself 
 is grounded by contact with a silver mesh which in turn is grounded 
 via conductive cement to studs that attach to the metal bezel.  I 
 expect in comparison with the actual resistance of the ground path  
 the change from 10 to 20 ohms is small.  
 
In the interest of time and money, the debate is to re-test or not, 
 and which tests...  Any comments or help would be appreciated.
 
 Thank you,
 
 Lisa


If you EMI performance is close to the limit (say within 6 dB), you better
re-test. Consider ESD retesting too if direct discharge on the conductive part 
can take place.

If you want to be safe, or follow the EMC-directive: RE-TEST everything.


Hope i've been of any service to you. 
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US-CA-PETALUMA-COMPLIANCE ENGINEER

1998-03-26 Thread Dave Lorusso
DSC's Access Products Division, in Northern California (Petaluma), is
looking for a Compliance Engineer.  BSEE with at least 5 years of
industry related Compliance experience.  Direct exposure to Bellcore
GR-1089-CORE and GR-63-CORE is desired.

We are also looking for a Hardware Verification Engineer.  BSEE with at
least 5 years of telecommunications experience.  Solid background in
electronics, digital design, and communications theory.  Experience with
telecommunications test equipment, specifications, and requirements.
ADSL, ATM, and SONET experience is desirable.

To apply, please forward a letter of introduction, resume (email
preferred), and salary history to:

Dave Lorusso
david_loru...@optilink.dsccc.com
707-792-7807 (fax)