Re: Vermont Mercury Labeling Law
Richard, I found the website for the State of Vermont with the info you are looking. www.leg.state.vt.us/statutes/title10/06621d.htm Items to be labeled are: (1) A thermostat or thermometer. (2) A switch, individually or as part of another product. (3) A medical or scientific instrument. (4) An electric relay or other electrical device. (5) A lamp. (6) A battery, sold to the public, other than a button battery. Subject:Vermont Mercury Labeling Law To: emc-p...@ieee.org Copies to: From: Richard Pittenger pitt...@pmifeg.com Date sent: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 09:22:12 -0500 Send reply to: Richard Pittenger pitt...@pmifeg.com Hello Group: The State of Vermont has a labeling law becoming effective 3-1-2000 which requires products which contain mercury-containing components to be labeled as such and direct the customer/servicer to properly dispose of such components at the time of replacement. I understand that fluorescent lighting tubes contain mercury and that NEMA and several mfgs. of such tubes have won a lawsuit against Vermont which puts off, at least, the effective date for marking such lighting tubes. Does anyone in the group know if this ruling affects mfgs. of equipment that use fixtures containing fluorescent tubes? Or will such appliances, etc., still need to be marked with the disposal warning as of 3-1-2000? Thanks for any info you have on this subject. Regards, Richard Pittenger PMI Food Equipment Group Troy, Ohio- - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). Lou Guerin Regulatory Engineer Elgar Corporation - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
EN61000-4-11
EN 61000-4-11 states that the rise/fall time for a test generator used to perform a voltage abnormalities test (i.e. dips, variations etc should be between 1 and 5 microseconds.) Does anyone know of a generator that meets this criterion? I have come across a few but they typically cannot be programmed to work with rise/fall times less than 0.1 milliseconds(i.e. 100 microseconds). Thanks for your usual co-operation. John F. Whitfield - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Re: E-Field Probe Question
Tr usually ment risetime when referred to pulsed signals. In this case I think it refers to response time less than 10Hz. In other words you'll get a reading in less than the period of ten hertz at the frequency of measurement. Ralph Cameron EMC Consultant and Suppression of Consuemr Electronic Equipment (After Sale) - Original Message - From: Martin Rowe (TMW) m.r...@ieee.org To: emc-p...@ieee.org Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 12:17 PM Subject: E-Field Probe Question I need clarification on a spec for an e-field probe. The spec is Tr less than 10 Hz. What is Tr? The probe is specified in SAE J1113/27 Electromagnetic Compatibility Measurements Procedure for Vehicle Components: Part 27:Immunity to Radiated Electromagnetic Fields-Reverberation Method. Thanks, /\ | Martin Rowe | / \ | Senior Technical Editor | /\ /\ | Test Measurement World | / \/ \/\ | voice 617-558-4426 |/\ /\ / \/ | fax 617-928-4426 | \/ \/ | e-mail m.r...@ieee.org | \ / | http://www.tmworld.com |\/ - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: Absorption Clamp
Try Fischer Custom Communications. www.fischercc.com http://www.fischercc.com Richard Woods -- From: Davis, Mike [SMTP:mike_da...@adc.com] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 2:23 PM To: EMC-PSTC Regulatory E-Mail (E-mail) Subject: Absorption Clamp Does anyone out there know of a source(s) through which I may purchase an absorption clamp used to test in the EN50083-2 standard??? Are these items available for rent? I am looking to debug and pre-comply with this clamp in-house. Michael S. Davis Compliance Engineer ADC Broadband Communications 11 Fairfield Boulevard Wallingford, CT 06492 203 630-5788 mike_da...@adc.com u15...@snet.net - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
99 EMC Encyclopedia - CD-ROM (at no charge)
Hello All, Today we received a few hundred courtesy copies (For free distribution) of the 99 EMC, Telecom and Computer CD-ROM. This CD-ROM contains the entire (752+ printed pages) '99 version of the encyclopedia in addition to a number of useful files and links to advertisers' materials. It is published by emi-emf control, Inc. (Don White - et al). It is truly a useful and current resource. We are offering them (first-call) to the PSTC listserver members; If you'd like a copy, please send us a large SASE (Self Addressed Stamped Envelope) [8 1/2 X 11 or A4], bearing suitable US Postage (US$1.00 for the US or Canada, US$2.60 or IRCs for 3 ounces for other locations). And, if you'd put one of your business cards in the envelope, that would be appreciated (and will assure that we send it to the correct address). Other than that, and one per address, - no strings attached (of course, you must be among the first 200 SASEs rec'd). ThanX and Regards, Art Michael Int'l Product Safety Bookshop A.E. Michael, Manager 166 Congdon St. East Middletown CT 06457 U.S.A. Phone : (860) 344-1651 Fax: (860) 346-9066 Email : i...@connix.com Website: http://www.safetylink.com ISSN : 1040-7529 -- Forwarded message -- List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 18:36:01 -0800 From: Price, Ed ed.pr...@cubic.com To: 'Art Michael' amich...@connix.com Subject: RE: Can I or would you ..? Art: I completely support your idea for disposition of those CD-ROMs. A posted offer for these is not a commercial activity and is a fully appropriate post. Thank you for providing this service to our Listmembers. I'll be sending you my envelope tomorrow! Regards, Ed :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-) Ed Price ed.pr...@cubic.com Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Systems San Diego, CA. USA 858-505-2780 (Voice) 858-505-1583 (Fax) Military Avionics EMC Services Is Our Specialty Shake-Bake-Shock - Metrology - Reliability Analysis :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-) - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Full Compliance Versus Pre-Compliance Measurement Systems
To all, Could someone please layout the Fullcompliance EMI Measurement system versus Pre-Compliance EMI Measurement system tradeoffs. Some thoughts on when each one is required and when one could get by with the pre-compliance setup would be especially helpful. I know this may be a repeat but any thoughts on the matter would be appreciated. Thanks in advance for any inputs. Thank You Sandy Mazzola Symbol Technologies Inc 1 Symbol PLaza Holtsville, N.Y. 11742 - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Non lead solder Arrrrrrgh
Mark, Thank you for your informative and humorous posting. May I take the opportunity of asking to be kept informed re the lead-free solder debate? Like you I worry about silver leaching, and more. Incidently, my father is/was a (master) plumber, so he knows a thing or two about soldering, and has come to my rescue on more than one occasion, e.g. by sweating a lead pipe to a copper one until the water board could turn up to make the final connection (ten weeks later!). Regards Peter Lewis Who knows what you get back when you press button-B Message text written by Mark As a supplement to the recent lead thread, the latest issue of Electronics Manufacturing Products (a UK trade paper) has a minor headline It's tin-silver-copper. The Printed Circuit Interconnect Federation and International Tin Research Institute have apparently chosen to recommend Sn-Ag-Cu as a general multipurpose replacement for tin-lead for hand, wave and surface mount soldering, as well as in difficult products. Six UK solder suppliers are backing it, as well as the IPC (Association Connecting Electronics Industries) (?!) and National Electronics Manufacturing Industries. The final interesting point is that the chosen alloys can be used to solder components/PCBs with tin lead finishes. Having had problems with silver leaching in the past, I have filled in the paper's bingo style enquiry card to find out more, as they say. But it does seem that the soldering industry is quite a long way down the road to getting rid of lead, in the UK at least. If anyone's still interested in the subject, I'll post more when I get some information. Regards, Mark Who still uses a blow lamp, stick solder and Fry's flux. -- Mark Hone - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Absorption Clamp
Does anyone out there know of a source(s) through which I may purchase an absorption clamp used to test in the EN50083-2 standard??? Are these items available for rent? I am looking to debug and pre-comply with this clamp in-house. Michael S. Davis Compliance Engineer ADC Broadband Communications 11 Fairfield Boulevard Wallingford, CT 06492 203 630-5788 mike_da...@adc.com u15...@snet.net - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Re: SAE Standards
SAE J1113 series cover immunity of engine control units. I'm writing an article that summarazes the tests. It will apprear in the February 15 issue. You can download them at www.sae.org (PDF format, but each test spec (there are about 20) costs $59 to download. I downloaded three of the specs for my article. /\ | Martin Rowe | / \ | Senior Technical Editor | /\ /\ | Test Measurement World | / \/ \/\ | voice 617-558-4426 |/\ /\ / \/ | fax 617-928-4426 | \/ \/ | e-mail m.r...@ieee.org | \ / | http://www.tmworld.com |\/ -- From: rehel...@mmm.com To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: SAE Standards Date: Monday, January 24, 2000 10:59 AM Could anyone tell me what SAE standards govern product EMC emissions and immunity for after market devices? These would be devices installed into vehicles after the vehicle has been sold. The device in question is a guidance system for snowplows enabling them to remain on the road in the presence of deep snow. The device is an 'advisory only' system for the driver. It does not control any vehicle function. If there are no specific SAE standards, which SAE standards would a conscientious manufacturer adhere to? - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Re: source for blank test reports
Following up on Barry's request, how about a CB format blank report form for EN60950? Do you have to buy it somewhere, or is it freely downloadable? Dirk --- barrym bar...@spaceship.com wrote: Hi, I'm looking for a blank test report, preferably in CB format, for EN50091-1-1, if anybody has a suggestion where to look, it would be appreciated. Barry Marks __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: Competent Authorities
Hi Mark, No. The MDD, Article 14 address this. You only have to register with the CO of the country where you have your authorized representative. But, I have heard that some countries have passed national laws requiring you to register all devices. Ned Devine Entela, Inc. Program Manager III Phone 616 248 9671 Fax 616 574 9752 e-mail ndev...@entela.com Article 14 Registration of persons responsible for placing devices on the market 1. Any manufacturer who, under his own name, places devices on the market in accordance with the procedures referred to in Article 11 (5) and (6) and any other natural or legal person engaged in the activities referred to in Article 12 shall inform the competent authorities of the Member State in which he has his registered place of business of the address of the registered place of business and the description of the devices concerned. 2. Where a manufacturer who places devices referred to in paragraph I on the market under his own name does not have a registered place of business in a Member State, he shall designate the person(s) responsible for marketing them who is (are) established in the community These persons shall inform the competent authorities of the Member State in which they have their registered place of business of the address of the registered place of business and the category of devices concerned. 3. The Member States shall on request inform the other Member States and the Commission of the details referred to in paragraphs 1 and 2. -Original Message- From: Mark Schmidt [mailto:mschm...@xrite.com] Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 12:00 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Competent Authorities Dear Members, In the EEC if I register a Class I Medical Device with a Competent Authority in one Membered State, must I register with other Competent Authorities as we eventually market product their State. All input is appreciated. Regards, Mark Schmidt X-Rite Incorporated Grandville, MI U.S.A. mschm...@xrite.com phone - 616 257 2469 - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
E-Field Probe Question
I need clarification on a spec for an e-field probe. The spec is Tr less than 10 Hz. What is Tr? The probe is specified in SAE J1113/27 Electromagnetic Compatibility Measurements Procedure for Vehicle Components: Part 27:Immunity to Radiated Electromagnetic Fields-Reverberation Method. Thanks, /\ | Martin Rowe | / \ | Senior Technical Editor | /\ /\ | Test Measurement World | / \/ \/\ | voice 617-558-4426 |/\ /\ / \/ | fax 617-928-4426 | \/ \/ | e-mail m.r...@ieee.org | \ / | http://www.tmworld.com |\/ - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Competent Authorities
Dear Members, In the EEC if I register a Class I Medical Device with a Competent Authority in one Membered State, must I register with other Competent Authorities as we eventually market product their State. All input is appreciated. Regards, Mark Schmidt X-Rite Incorporated Grandville, MI U.S.A. mschm...@xrite.com phone - 616 257 2469 - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
source for blank test reports
Hi, I'm looking for a blank test report, preferably in CB format, for EN50091-1-1, if anybody has a suggestion where to look, it would be appreciated. Barry Marks - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE:
IHS - Global Documents is a good source for any compliance document. They have documents from most of the major compliance agencies. They carry everything from UL and EN standards all the way to John Deere supplier standards. http://global.ihs.com/ Ted Eckert Regulatory Compliance Engineer American Power Conversion Corporation teck...@apcc.com The items contained in this e-mail reflect the personal opinions of the writer and are only provided for the assistance of the reader. The writer is not speaking in an official capacity for APC nor representing APC's official position on any matter. http://www.apcc.com - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Re:copy of EN 50126
Susan, From the following site I have included related text for your subject request. Best Regards, Paul J. Smith , Teradyne http://eur-op.eu.int/en/general/s-ad.htm Sales networks EUR-OP distributes its products through 80 sales agents worldwide and offers a limited direct on-line ordering service. There are four complementary sales networks covering traditional, off-line and on-line products and the provision of extracts of documents. Each sales agent may offer one or more of these services which are identified by the following symbols on the address list: Sales agents for paper, video, microfiche and off-line publications plus all Official Journal of the European Communities subscriptions; Specialised off-line agents for CD-ROMs, diskettes and combined products plus all Official Journal subscriptions; Gateway agents for access to on-line databases (APC, Celex, Eudor, OIL and Sesame) plus all Official Journal subscriptions; Document delivery agents: research and delivery of texts. Using the above legend, please choose the sales agent which best suits your needs. Requests for free publications should be addressed to the representations of the European Commission in the Member States or the delegations of the European Commission in other countries. Beard, Susan sbe...@ge-harris.com on 01/24/2000 08:31:45 AM Please respond to Beard, Susan sbe...@ge-harris.com To: 'emc-p...@ieee.org' emc-p...@ieee.org cc:(bcc: Paul J Smith/Bos/Teradyne) Subject: Can someone tell where I can get a copy of EN 50126? Thanks, Susan Beard - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators). - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
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Can someone tell where I can get a copy of EN 50126? Thanks, Susan Beard - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
RE: Fiber optics Issue
Carmen, I'm not familiar with IEC 65, but for EN 60950 an attachment of a laser safety report to the EN 60950 report is typical. There is no requirement in IEC 825 (a.k.a. EN 60825)for use of a 'certified' laser lab. But as with many specifications, it is to your adavantage to use an independent 3-rd party laboratory, as there would less questions as to impartiality. Also note, that IEC 825 also applies to products that use LED-based optics, not just lasers. For 21 CFR, you MUST file a report with the CDRH for laser products (no LEDs yet in the US). There is a special form that must be completed that forms the report. Additionally, the CDRH requires an 'annual report' which is to be received by them in September. John Juhasz Fiber Options Bohemia, NY -Original Message- From: Carmen.Filimon [mailto:carmen.fili...@leitch.com] Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 1:55 PM To: 'IEEE emc-pstc list' Subject: Fiber optics Issue Please, could anyone give me some advice regarding the fiber optics? As I know the IEC 825-1 (and CFR Title 21 for US) and IEC 825-2 are used as reference lasers safety standards. What' s the procedure for certification process of a product (certified with IEC 65) which incorporate fiber optics (as both source and receiver on the same module). Is it requested an IEC 825-1 report attached to the IEC 65 report (what kind of measurements) made by a certified Laser Lab? Or is it enough just a statement from the laser products manufacturer with the proper classification and affixed on the shipping box the warning label with the statement of Class 1 or any other, according to IEC 825-1 or CFR 21. I want to know more about the from your experience. Thank you for any idea or advice, Best regards, Carmen Leitch Technology Int'l - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).
Re: MIL-STD-45662
Lucian, Try http://www.dodssp.daps.mil/ regards Ray Garner RCIC - http://www.rcic.com Regulatory Compliance Information Center - This message is coming from the emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc (without the quotes). For help, send mail to ed.pr...@cubic.com, jim_bac...@monarch.com, ri...@sdd.hp.com, or roger.volgst...@compaq.com (the list administrators).