Re: Vermont Mercury Labeling Law

2000-01-24 Thread Lou Guerin

Richard,
I found the website for the State of Vermont with the info you are 
looking.
www.leg.state.vt.us/statutes/title10/06621d.htm
 
Items to be labeled are:
(1) A thermostat or thermometer.
(2) A switch, individually or as part of another product.
(3) A medical or scientific instrument.
(4) An electric relay or other electrical device.
(5) A lamp.
(6) A battery, sold to the public, other than a button battery.

Subject:Vermont Mercury Labeling Law
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Hello Group:

The State of Vermont has a labeling law becoming effective 3-1-2000 which
requires products which contain mercury-containing components to be labeled
as such and direct the customer/servicer to properly dispose of such
components at the time of replacement.

I understand that fluorescent lighting tubes contain mercury and that NEMA
and several mfgs. of such tubes have won a lawsuit against Vermont which
puts off, at least, the effective date for marking such lighting tubes.

Does anyone in the group know if this ruling affects mfgs. of equipment
that use fixtures containing fluorescent tubes? Or will such appliances,
etc., still need to be marked with the disposal warning as of 3-1-2000?

Thanks for any info you have on this subject.

Regards,
Richard Pittenger
PMI Food Equipment Group
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EN61000-4-11

2000-01-24 Thread fwhitfield


EN 61000-4-11 states that the rise/fall time for a test generator used 
to perform a voltage abnormalities test (i.e. dips, variations etc 
should be between 1 and 5 microseconds.)

 Does anyone know of a generator that meets this criterion? I have 
come across a few but they typically cannot be programmed to work with 
rise/fall times less than 0.1 milliseconds(i.e. 100 microseconds). 
Thanks for your usual co-operation.

John F. Whitfield


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Re: E-Field Probe Question

2000-01-24 Thread Ralph Cameron

Tr usually ment risetime when referred to pulsed signals. In this case I
think it refers to response time less than 10Hz. In other words  you'll get
a reading in less than the period of ten hertz at the frequency of
measurement.

Ralph Cameron

EMC Consultant and Suppression of Consuemr Electronic Equipment
(After Sale)

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 I need clarification on a spec for an e-field probe. The spec is
 Tr less than 10 Hz.

 What is Tr?

 The probe is specified in SAE J1113/27 Electromagnetic
 Compatibility Measurements Procedure for Vehicle Components:
 Part 27:Immunity to Radiated Electromagnetic
 Fields-Reverberation Method.

 Thanks,

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RE: Absorption Clamp

2000-01-24 Thread WOODS

Try Fischer Custom Communications. www.fischercc.com
http://www.fischercc.com 

Richard Woods

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Does anyone out there know of a source(s) through which I may
purchase an absorption clamp used to test in the EN50083-2 standard??? Are
these items available for rent? I am looking to debug and pre-comply with
this clamp in-house.  

Michael S. Davis
Compliance Engineer
ADC Broadband Communications
11 Fairfield Boulevard
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99 EMC Encyclopedia - CD-ROM (at no charge)

2000-01-24 Thread Art Michael

Hello All,

Today we received a few hundred courtesy copies (For free distribution) of
the 99 EMC, Telecom and Computer CD-ROM.  This CD-ROM contains the
entire (752+ printed pages) '99 version of the encyclopedia in addition to
a number of useful files and links to advertisers' materials. It is
published by emi-emf control, Inc.  (Don White - et al). It is truly a
useful and current resource. We are offering them (first-call) to the PSTC
listserver members; 

If you'd like a copy, please send us a large SASE (Self Addressed Stamped
Envelope) [8 1/2 X 11 or A4], bearing suitable US Postage (US$1.00 for
the US or Canada, US$2.60 or IRCs for 3 ounces for other locations).
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be appreciated (and will assure that we send it to the correct address).

Other than that, and one per address, - no strings attached (of course,
you must be among the first 200 SASEs rec'd). 

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Full Compliance Versus Pre-Compliance Measurement Systems

2000-01-24 Thread Sandy Mazzola

To all,

Could someone please layout the Fullcompliance EMI Measurement system 
versus Pre-Compliance EMI Measurement system tradeoffs.  Some thoughts on when 
each one is required and when one could get by with the  pre-compliance setup 
would be especially helpful.  I know this may be a repeat but any thoughts on 
the matter would be appreciated.

   Thanks in advance for any inputs.


Thank You
Sandy Mazzola
Symbol Technologies Inc
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Holtsville, N.Y. 11742


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Non lead solder Arrrrrrgh

2000-01-24 Thread Peter Lewis

Mark,

Thank you for your informative and humorous posting.  May I take the
opportunity of asking to be kept informed re the lead-free solder debate? 
Like you I worry about  silver leaching, and more.

Incidently, my father is/was a (master) plumber, so he knows a thing or two
about soldering, and has come to my rescue on more than one occasion, e.g.
by sweating a lead pipe to a copper one until the water board could turn up
to make the final connection (ten weeks later!).

Regards

Peter Lewis

Who knows what you get back when you press button-B

Message text written by Mark
As a supplement to the recent lead thread, the latest issue of 
Electronics Manufacturing Products (a UK trade paper) has a 
minor headline It's tin-silver-copper.  The Printed Circuit 
Interconnect Federation and  International Tin Research Institute 
have apparently chosen to recommend Sn-Ag-Cu as a general 
multipurpose replacement for tin-lead for hand, wave and surface 
mount soldering, as well as in difficult products.  Six UK solder 
suppliers are backing it, as well as the IPC (Association 
Connecting Electronics Industries) (?!) and National Electronics 
Manufacturing Industries.

The final interesting point is that the chosen alloys can be used 
to solder components/PCBs with tin lead finishes. Having had 
problems with silver leaching in the past, I have filled in the 
paper's bingo style enquiry card to find out more, as they say.

But it does seem that the soldering industry is quite a long way 
down the road to getting rid of lead, in the UK at least.  If 
anyone's still interested in the subject, I'll post more when I get 
some information.

Regards, Mark

Who still uses a blow lamp, stick solder and Fry's flux.
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Absorption Clamp

2000-01-24 Thread Davis, Mike

Does anyone out there know of a source(s) through which I may purchase an 
absorption clamp used to test in the EN50083-2 standard??? Are these items 
available for rent? I am looking to debug and pre-comply with this clamp 
in-house.  

Michael S. Davis
Compliance Engineer
ADC Broadband Communications
11 Fairfield Boulevard
Wallingford, CT 06492
203 630-5788
mike_da...@adc.com
u15...@snet.net 

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Re: SAE Standards

2000-01-24 Thread Martin Rowe (TMW)

SAE J1113 series cover immunity of engine control units. I'm
writing an article that summarazes the tests. It will apprear in
the February 15 issue. You can download them at www.sae.org (PDF
format, but each test spec (there are about 20) costs $59 to
download. I downloaded three of the specs for my article.

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 From: rehel...@mmm.com
 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
 Subject: SAE Standards
 Date: Monday, January 24, 2000 10:59 AM
 
 
 
 
 Could anyone tell me what SAE standards govern product EMC
emissions and
 immunity for after market devices? These would be devices
installed into
 vehicles after the vehicle has been sold.
 
 The device in question is a guidance system for snowplows
enabling them to
 remain on the road in the presence of deep snow. The device is
an 'advisory
 only' system for the driver. It does not control any vehicle
function.
 
 If there are no specific SAE standards, which SAE standards
would a
 conscientious manufacturer adhere to?
 
 
 
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Re: source for blank test reports

2000-01-24 Thread Dirk Atama

Following up on Barry's request, how about a CB format
blank report form for EN60950?  Do you have to buy it
somewhere, or is it freely downloadable? 

Dirk

--- barrym bar...@spaceship.com wrote:
 
 
 Hi, I'm looking for a blank test report, preferably
 in CB format, for
 EN50091-1-1, if anybody has a suggestion where to
 look, it would be
 appreciated.
 
 Barry Marks
 
 
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RE: Competent Authorities

2000-01-24 Thread Ned Devine

Hi Mark,

No.  The MDD, Article 14 address this.  You only have to register with the
CO of the country where you have your authorized representative.   But, I
have heard that some countries have passed national laws requiring you to
register all devices. 

Ned Devine
Entela, Inc.
Program Manager III
Phone 616 248 9671
Fax  616 574 9752
e-mail  ndev...@entela.com 



Article 14

Registration of persons responsible for placing devices on
the market

1.  Any manufacturer who, under his own name, places devices on the
market in accordance with the procedures referred to in Article 11 (5) and
(6) and any other natural or legal person engaged in the activities referred
to in Article 12 shall inform the competent authorities of the Member State
in which he has his registered place of business of the address of the
registered place of business and the description of the devices concerned.

2.   Where a manufacturer who places devices referred to in paragraph I on
the market under his own name does not have a registered place of business
in a Member State, he shall designate the person(s) responsible for
marketing them who is (are) established in the community  These persons
shall inform the competent authorities of the Member State in which they
have their registered place of business of the address of the registered
place of business and the category of devices concerned.

3.  The Member States shall on request inform the other Member States
and the Commission of the details referred to in paragraphs 1 and 2.

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Subject: Competent Authorities



Dear Members,

In the EEC if I register a Class I Medical Device with a Competent Authority
in one Membered State, must I register with other Competent Authorities as
we eventually market product their State. All input is appreciated.

Regards,

Mark Schmidt
X-Rite Incorporated
Grandville, MI  
U.S.A.

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E-Field Probe Question

2000-01-24 Thread Martin Rowe (TMW)


I need clarification on a spec for an e-field probe. The spec is
Tr less than 10 Hz.

What is Tr? 

The probe is specified in SAE J1113/27 Electromagnetic
Compatibility Measurements Procedure for Vehicle Components:
Part 27:Immunity to Radiated Electromagnetic
Fields-Reverberation Method.

Thanks,

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Competent Authorities

2000-01-24 Thread Mark Schmidt

Dear Members,

In the EEC if I register a Class I Medical Device with a Competent Authority
in one Membered State, must I register with other Competent Authorities as
we eventually market product their State. All input is appreciated.

Regards,

Mark Schmidt
X-Rite Incorporated
Grandville, MI  
U.S.A.

mschm...@xrite.com
phone - 616 257 2469





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source for blank test reports

2000-01-24 Thread barrym


Hi, I'm looking for a blank test report, preferably in CB format, for
EN50091-1-1, if anybody has a suggestion where to look, it would be
appreciated.

Barry Marks



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RE:

2000-01-24 Thread teckert


IHS - Global Documents is a good source for any compliance document.  They
have documents from most of the major compliance agencies.  They carry
everything from UL and EN standards all the way to John Deere supplier
standards.

http://global.ihs.com/

Ted Eckert
Regulatory Compliance Engineer
American Power Conversion Corporation
teck...@apcc.com

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writer and are only provided for the assistance of the reader.  The writer
is not speaking in an official capacity for APC nor representing APC's
official position on any matter.

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Re:copy of EN 50126

2000-01-24 Thread Paul J Smith

Susan,

From the following site I have included related text for your subject request.

Best Regards,   Paul J. Smith , Teradyne

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 Requests for free publications should be addressed to the
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Beard, Susan sbe...@ge-harris.com on 01/24/2000 08:31:45 AM

Please respond to Beard, Susan sbe...@ge-harris.com

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Can someone tell where I can get a copy of EN 50126?

Thanks,
Susan Beard

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2000-01-24 Thread Beard, Susan

Can someone tell where I can get a copy of EN 50126?

Thanks,
Susan Beard

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RE: Fiber optics Issue

2000-01-24 Thread John Juhasz
Carmen,

I'm not familiar with IEC 65, but for EN 60950 an attachment of a laser
safety report to the EN 60950 report is typical. There is no requirement in
IEC 825 (a.k.a. EN 60825)for use of a 'certified' laser lab. But as with
many specifications, it is to your adavantage to use an independent 3-rd
party laboratory, as there would less questions as to impartiality.
Also note, that IEC 825 also applies to products that use LED-based optics,
not just lasers.

For 21 CFR, you MUST file a report with the CDRH for laser products (no LEDs
yet in the US).
There is a special form that must be completed that forms the report. 
Additionally, the CDRH requires an 'annual report' which is to be received
by them in September.

John Juhasz
Fiber Options
Bohemia, NY


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Subject: Fiber optics Issue




Please, could anyone give me some advice regarding the fiber optics?
As I know the IEC 825-1 (and CFR Title 21 for US) and IEC 825-2 are used as
reference lasers safety standards. 
What' s the procedure for certification process of a product (certified with
IEC 65) which incorporate fiber optics (as both source and receiver on the
same module).
Is it requested an IEC 825-1 report attached to the IEC 65 report (what kind
of measurements) made by a certified Laser Lab?
Or is it enough just a statement from the laser products manufacturer with
the proper classification and affixed on the shipping box the warning label
with the statement of Class 1 or any other, according to IEC 825-1 or CFR
21. 

I want to know more about the from your experience. Thank you for any idea
or advice,

Best regards, 
Carmen
Leitch Technology Int'l

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Re: MIL-STD-45662

2000-01-24 Thread rayg


Lucian,

Try http://www.dodssp.daps.mil/


regards 

Ray Garner

RCIC - http://www.rcic.com
Regulatory Compliance Information Center




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