ground plane size for EN 61000-4-4

2000-06-12 Thread Dan Kinney (A)

List Members:
Paragraph 7.2.1 of EN 61000-4-4 (Electric Fast Transient/Burst Immunity)
states the minimum size of the ground plane will is 1m by 1m which of course
is 1 square meter.  All other EN 61000-4-X standards state the ground plane
will be at least 1 square meter with no mention of specific dimensions.  I
would appreciate any comment on the apparent requirement for a 1m by 1m
ground plane as our ground plane is 36 inches by 6 feet.  
Dan Kinney
dan.kin...@heapg.com


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WEEE directive

2000-06-12 Thread WOODS

It has been reported that the 4th draft directive on Waste Electrical and
Electronic Equipment (WEEE) was set to be approved the first week in June
although it must go through the European Parliament before final adoption.

Does anyone know if this draft is available on the web? I was unsuccessful
in finding it.

Richard Woods

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RE: Radiated Susceptibility up to 100 GHz

2000-06-12 Thread Price, Ed






 -Original Message-
 From: Brumbaugh, David [mailto:david.brumba...@pss.boeing.com]
 Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 8:18 AM
 To: 'emc-pstc'
 Subject: Radiated Susceptibility up to 100 GHz
 
 
 
 List Members:
 Does anyone have experience performing radiated 
 susceptibility (immunity) testing at frequencies up to 100 
 GHz? If so, what labs are equipped to provide this service, 
 and what field levels are achievable?
 Thanks,
 DB
 

Dave:

Cubic can perform Radiated Immunity testing from 10 KHz to 18 GHz, with any
modulation, at a minimum level of 200 Volts per meter.

Beyond 40 GHz, you get into very expensive territory. If you need continuous
tuning coverage, that's even tougher. You might want to try Cincinnati
Electronics or RB Associates.

Ed
  



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Open Position In North Carolina

2000-06-12 Thread WOODS

A person not on our list has requested me to post the following open
position. While not specifically mentioned, it appears that  NEBS knowledge
may be necessary.  PLEASE RESPOND TO THE ADDRESS BELOW AND NOT TO ME.


Product Engineer Position. Division of a multi-billion dollar corporation
located in Raleigh, North Carolina. Division is engaged in the design and
manufacture of powering systems to support the broadband technology market.
Seeking a Product Engineer interested in a position that requires use of
design, regulatory, and documentation skills. Special emphasis is required
on product design and testing necessary to gain safety agency approval.
Requires a BSEE/ME or equivalent education. Minimum of 3-5 years of
experience required. Experience with design of electrical and
electromechanical products. Experience with safety and regulatory agencies
required.
If interested contact Paul Rousseau in Human Resources at (919) 713-5365 or
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Telephone equipment approval

2000-06-12 Thread Raymond . Li



I have heard that BABT approval for telephone equipment is no longer required in
the U.K. and is replaced by a new directive for all EEC countries.  Can anyone
give me the pointer where I can get the detail of the new directive and relevant
requirements and standards.

Thanks and regards,

Raymond Li
Dixons Asia Ltd.



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EU equivalent limits to FCC Part 15C

2000-06-12 Thread Mike Morrow

Can someone tell me the limits allowed in the EU for an intentional
radiator?  The FCC allows 250 micro volts/meter measured at 3 meters.  What
is the requirement in Europe and what standard applies?  Thanks!

Mike Morrow
Senior Compliance Engineer
Ucentric Systems
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RE: EFT/Burst

2000-06-12 Thread Mike Hopkins

You are correct for purposes of COMPLIANCE to EN55024 and application of
a CE Mark, you test each line with respect to a reference ground (PE), but
as I'm sure you're aware, a customer can ask for whatever they think is
relevant. 

Mike Hopkins
mhopk...@keytek.com


-Original Message-
From: Roncone Paolo [mailto:paolo.ronc...@compuprint.it]
Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 11:46 AM
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Subject: EFT/Burst



Group,

we are currently discussing with one OEM the interpretation of EFT/Burst
test requirements per EN55024 and EN61000-4-4 to a printer. 
Specifically we are discussing the requirements of application of bursts to
AC power lines. Our understanding is that they must be applied between each
(single) power supply conductor and reference ground (or protective earth),
as specified in EN61000-4-4 section 7.3.1. Also fig.4 and fig.11 in the same
document seem to confirm this.
Our OEM customer says that all combinations of phase, neutral and protective
earth should be tested. They actually tested both singular AC lines and also
more than one AC line. The printer passed the test in the first mode and
failed in the second mode.

Any comments / interpretations would be highly appreciated.

Paolo Roncone
Compuprint s.p.a.
Italy

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RE: Looking For Video Pattern Generator

2000-06-12 Thread John Coyle

Tektronix have a module that can be configured to operate in both PAL and
NTSC.
I have used this equipment to generate video test patterns.

TG 2000 Signal Generator Platform.

John Coyle

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Of eric.lif...@ni.com
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Subject: Looking For Video Pattern Generator



Hello Listers,

We're looking for a stand-alone video pattern generator (both PAL and NTSC
formats) to test video capture boards for the EMC Directive; and, hopefully
the
generator itself would pass too.  We need one that would include a display
of
time so we can detect a lack of trigger or frozen acquire.

Any suggestions?

Regards,
Eric Lifsey
National Instruments



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Intrinsic Safety

2000-06-12 Thread Peter Merguerian

Dear All,

Does someone know of a good consultant for intrinsic safety in Europe
and/or the Middle East? Looking for consulting for level controls and
eventual approvals for European markets.
Peter Merguerian
Managing Director
Product Testing Division
I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd.
Hacharoshet 26, POB 211
Or Yehuda 60251, Israel

Tel: 972-3-5339022 Fax: 972-3-5339019
e-mail: pmerguer...@itl.co.il
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Radiated Susceptibility up to 100 GHz

2000-06-12 Thread Brumbaugh, David

List Members:
Does anyone have experience performing radiated susceptibility (immunity) 
testing at frequencies up to 100 GHz? If so, what labs are equipped to provide 
this service, and what field levels are achievable?
Thanks,
DB

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RE: EU equivalent limits to FCC Part 15C

2000-06-12 Thread WOODS

The standards are developed by ETSI (www.etsi.org http://www.etsi.org ).
You may download up to three standards for free. Generally, the FCC and ETSI
limits are quite different. The measurement methods are also different.
However, I can tell you that the ETSI limits for short range devices are
higher.  Note that not all EU countries accept the ETSI limits in all bands;
e.g., Germany. You will also need to check out the CEPT/ERO Decisions and
Recommendations at www.ero.dk http://www.ero.dk  to see how the limits and
bands vary throughout the countries.

Richard Woods

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From:  Mike Morrow [SMTP:mi...@ucentric.com]
Sent:  Monday, June 12, 2000 1:23 PM
To:  EMC Society
Subject:  EU equivalent limits to FCC Part 15C


Can someone tell me the limits allowed in the EU for an intentional
radiator?  The FCC allows 250 micro volts/meter measured at 3
meters.  What
is the requirement in Europe and what standard applies?  Thanks!

Mike Morrow
Senior Compliance Engineer
Ucentric Systems
mi...@ucentric.com
www.ucentric.com


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