ground plane size for EN 61000-4-4
List Members: Paragraph 7.2.1 of EN 61000-4-4 (Electric Fast Transient/Burst Immunity) states the minimum size of the ground plane will is 1m by 1m which of course is 1 square meter. All other EN 61000-4-X standards state the ground plane will be at least 1 square meter with no mention of specific dimensions. I would appreciate any comment on the apparent requirement for a 1m by 1m ground plane as our ground plane is 36 inches by 6 feet. Dan Kinney dan.kin...@heapg.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
WEEE directive
It has been reported that the 4th draft directive on Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment (WEEE) was set to be approved the first week in June although it must go through the European Parliament before final adoption. Does anyone know if this draft is available on the web? I was unsuccessful in finding it. Richard Woods --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: Radiated Susceptibility up to 100 GHz
-Original Message- From: Brumbaugh, David [mailto:david.brumba...@pss.boeing.com] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 8:18 AM To: 'emc-pstc' Subject: Radiated Susceptibility up to 100 GHz List Members: Does anyone have experience performing radiated susceptibility (immunity) testing at frequencies up to 100 GHz? If so, what labs are equipped to provide this service, and what field levels are achievable? Thanks, DB Dave: Cubic can perform Radiated Immunity testing from 10 KHz to 18 GHz, with any modulation, at a minimum level of 200 Volts per meter. Beyond 40 GHz, you get into very expensive territory. If you need continuous tuning coverage, that's even tougher. You might want to try Cincinnati Electronics or RB Associates. Ed :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-) Ed Price ed.pr...@cubic.com Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Systems San Diego, CA. USA 858-505-2780 (Voice) 858-505-1583 (Fax) Military Avionics EMC Services Is Our Specialty Shake-Bake-Shock - Metrology - Reliability Analysis :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-) --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Open Position In North Carolina
A person not on our list has requested me to post the following open position. While not specifically mentioned, it appears that NEBS knowledge may be necessary. PLEASE RESPOND TO THE ADDRESS BELOW AND NOT TO ME. Product Engineer Position. Division of a multi-billion dollar corporation located in Raleigh, North Carolina. Division is engaged in the design and manufacture of powering systems to support the broadband technology market. Seeking a Product Engineer interested in a position that requires use of design, regulatory, and documentation skills. Special emphasis is required on product design and testing necessary to gain safety agency approval. Requires a BSEE/ME or equivalent education. Minimum of 3-5 years of experience required. Experience with design of electrical and electromechanical products. Experience with safety and regulatory agencies required. If interested contact Paul Rousseau in Human Resources at (919) 713-5365 or rouss...@energy.invensys.com mailto:rouss...@energy.invensys.com . --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Telephone equipment approval
I have heard that BABT approval for telephone equipment is no longer required in the U.K. and is replaced by a new directive for all EEC countries. Can anyone give me the pointer where I can get the detail of the new directive and relevant requirements and standards. Thanks and regards, Raymond Li Dixons Asia Ltd. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
EU equivalent limits to FCC Part 15C
Can someone tell me the limits allowed in the EU for an intentional radiator? The FCC allows 250 micro volts/meter measured at 3 meters. What is the requirement in Europe and what standard applies? Thanks! Mike Morrow Senior Compliance Engineer Ucentric Systems mi...@ucentric.com www.ucentric.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: EFT/Burst
You are correct for purposes of COMPLIANCE to EN55024 and application of a CE Mark, you test each line with respect to a reference ground (PE), but as I'm sure you're aware, a customer can ask for whatever they think is relevant. Mike Hopkins mhopk...@keytek.com -Original Message- From: Roncone Paolo [mailto:paolo.ronc...@compuprint.it] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2000 11:46 AM To: 'emc-p...@ieee.org' Subject: EFT/Burst Group, we are currently discussing with one OEM the interpretation of EFT/Burst test requirements per EN55024 and EN61000-4-4 to a printer. Specifically we are discussing the requirements of application of bursts to AC power lines. Our understanding is that they must be applied between each (single) power supply conductor and reference ground (or protective earth), as specified in EN61000-4-4 section 7.3.1. Also fig.4 and fig.11 in the same document seem to confirm this. Our OEM customer says that all combinations of phase, neutral and protective earth should be tested. They actually tested both singular AC lines and also more than one AC line. The printer passed the test in the first mode and failed in the second mode. Any comments / interpretations would be highly appreciated. Paolo Roncone Compuprint s.p.a. Italy --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: Looking For Video Pattern Generator
Tektronix have a module that can be configured to operate in both PAL and NTSC. I have used this equipment to generate video test patterns. TG 2000 Signal Generator Platform. John Coyle -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of eric.lif...@ni.com Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 11:09 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Looking For Video Pattern Generator Hello Listers, We're looking for a stand-alone video pattern generator (both PAL and NTSC formats) to test video capture boards for the EMC Directive; and, hopefully the generator itself would pass too. We need one that would include a display of time so we can detect a lack of trigger or frozen acquire. Any suggestions? Regards, Eric Lifsey National Instruments --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Intrinsic Safety
Dear All, Does someone know of a good consultant for intrinsic safety in Europe and/or the Middle East? Looking for consulting for level controls and eventual approvals for European markets. Peter Merguerian Managing Director Product Testing Division I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. Hacharoshet 26, POB 211 Or Yehuda 60251, Israel Tel: 972-3-5339022 Fax: 972-3-5339019 e-mail: pmerguer...@itl.co.il website: http://www.itl.co.il --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Radiated Susceptibility up to 100 GHz
List Members: Does anyone have experience performing radiated susceptibility (immunity) testing at frequencies up to 100 GHz? If so, what labs are equipped to provide this service, and what field levels are achievable? Thanks, DB --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: EU equivalent limits to FCC Part 15C
The standards are developed by ETSI (www.etsi.org http://www.etsi.org ). You may download up to three standards for free. Generally, the FCC and ETSI limits are quite different. The measurement methods are also different. However, I can tell you that the ETSI limits for short range devices are higher. Note that not all EU countries accept the ETSI limits in all bands; e.g., Germany. You will also need to check out the CEPT/ERO Decisions and Recommendations at www.ero.dk http://www.ero.dk to see how the limits and bands vary throughout the countries. Richard Woods -- From: Mike Morrow [SMTP:mi...@ucentric.com] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 1:23 PM To: EMC Society Subject: EU equivalent limits to FCC Part 15C Can someone tell me the limits allowed in the EU for an intentional radiator? The FCC allows 250 micro volts/meter measured at 3 meters. What is the requirement in Europe and what standard applies? Thanks! Mike Morrow Senior Compliance Engineer Ucentric Systems mi...@ucentric.com www.ucentric.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org