RE: Equipment Rental
Bob, I just sent mine back. Electro Rent (770) 813-7081 I dealt with a gentleman by the name of Barry Kennedy and he shipped the equipment out same day when I needed it. The price was about $3,400.00 for the first month and broken down per day after that (same as monthly price). Good Luck, Joe Joe Finlayson Manager, Compliance Engineering Telica, Inc. 734 Foster Street, Bldg. G, Suite 100 Marlboro, MA 01752 Tel:(508) 480-0909 x212 Fax:(508) 480-0922 Email: jfinlay...@telica.com -Original Message- From: rehel...@mmm.com [mailto:rehel...@mmm.com] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 2:28 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Equipment Rental I need to rent the following equipment (preferrably in Darlington, U.K.): * Antennas (EMC 30-1000 MHz) * Spectrum Analyzer/EMI Receiver * Pre-amp (30-1000 MHz) Anyone know of a company? Regards, Bob Heller --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: Are NTCs Safe to Use in Electrical Equipment-short life of li ght bulbs
In the spirit of trying the simplest thing first, I'll swap the light switch out for a new one and see what happens. Thanks for the tip, Jim -Original Message- From: Robert Macy [mailto:m...@california.com] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 12:49 PM To: Jim Eichner; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Are NTCs Safe to Use in Electrical Equipment-short life of light bulbs The subject of short life of light bulbs appears often on the alt.home.repairnewsgroup. People come up with potential sources of problems like on the same branch with the sump pump(or well pump), and long lines to the light bulb. Their solutions were to put in those dimmer switches that cause the light bulb to only get power at crossover gently turning them on. And lower the voltage, and ... but the consensus of the true source of short lived light bulbs is either a poor neutral termination or the light switch needs to be replaced! I thought this a suspect answer until after this experience. My bathroom fixture took out light bulbs at the rate of about 1 per month, but that made sense with the concentration of heat inside its housing and with the ON/OFF cycling it is subjected to. Then one day the switch jammed up and had to be replaced. After that replacement, the fixture will keep bulbs for almost a year. Evidently, the bouncing contacts really do a trip on the cold filaments. You might be right in that an NTC (Negative Temperature Coefficient Resistor) will make up for it. But it hardly seems worth the effort. (Plus if it's not the switch, a potential of a poor neutral could really mean a major problem in your system. ) - Robert - Robert A. Macy, PEm...@california.com 408 286 3985 fx 408 297 9121 AJM International Electronics Consultants 619 North First St, San Jose, CA 95112 -Original Message- From: Jim Eichner jim.eich...@xantrex.com To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Monday, July 10, 2000 12:22 PM Subject: RE: Are NTCs Safe to Use in Electrical Equipment On the subject of NTC's, please allow me a slight detour from the compliance world to the real world. I have a circuit in my house that blows light bulbs far more often than any other. I can't determine any reason for this - the voltage seems normal and there aren't any transient-producers on that same circuit (that I'm aware of). Long life and rural-duty bulbs make little or no difference. Instead of figuring out the root cause, I'm considering resorting to trying to deal with the symptom (blown bulbs) by putting an NTC in series with the light fixture somewhere. My thinking is that the mechanism that blows an incandescent bulb filament is related to the high inrush current into the cold (and therefore low R) filament, and the physical and thermal stresses that that inrush causes. Any comments on how likely this is to help, and whether or not I can safely put an NTC in an junction box full of wires? I'd check the NTC's temperature under load (they get hot) and compare that the the temp. rating of the wires in the box. I'd also insulate the bare legs of the NTC and try to make sure it isn't touching anything else. Anyone familiar with the failure modes of these things? Thanks, Jim -Original Message- From: Peter Merguerian [mailto:pmerguer...@itl.co.il] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 7:58 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Are NTCs Safe to Use in Electrical Equipment Dear All, I have seen some design where NTCs are used to limit inrush currents in motion controllers. Q. Are NTCs safe and reliable as means to limit inrush currents? Q. Are there safety considerations to consider for circuits employing NTCs? Q. Are there any Approved (previously evaluated) NTC components out there? I appreciate all of your comments and/or links regarding the use of NTCs in electrical equipment. Thanks Peter Merguerian Managing Director Product Testing Division I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. Hacharoshet 26, POB 211 Or Yehuda 60251, Israel Tel: 972-3-5339022 Fax: 972-3-5339019 e-mail: pmerguer...@itl.co.il website: http://www.itl.co.il --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line:
RE: Are NTCs Safe to Use in Electrical Equipment
On the subject of NTC's, please allow me a slight detour from the compliance world to the real world. I have a circuit in my house that blows light bulbs far more often than any other. I can't determine any reason for this - the voltage seems normal and there aren't any transient-producers on that same circuit (that I'm aware of). Long life and rural-duty bulbs make little or no difference. Instead of figuring out the root cause, I'm considering resorting to trying to deal with the symptom (blown bulbs) by putting an NTC in series with the light fixture somewhere. My thinking is that the mechanism that blows an incandescent bulb filament is related to the high inrush current into the cold (and therefore low R) filament, and the physical and thermal stresses that that inrush causes. Any comments on how likely this is to help, and whether or not I can safely put an NTC in an junction box full of wires? I'd check the NTC's temperature under load (they get hot) and compare that the the temp. rating of the wires in the box. I'd also insulate the bare legs of the NTC and try to make sure it isn't touching anything else. Anyone familiar with the failure modes of these things? Thanks, Jim -Original Message- From: Peter Merguerian [mailto:pmerguer...@itl.co.il] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 7:58 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Are NTCs Safe to Use in Electrical Equipment Dear All, I have seen some design where NTCs are used to limit inrush currents in motion controllers. Q. Are NTCs safe and reliable as means to limit inrush currents? Q. Are there safety considerations to consider for circuits employing NTCs? Q. Are there any Approved (previously evaluated) NTC components out there? I appreciate all of your comments and/or links regarding the use of NTCs in electrical equipment. Thanks Peter Merguerian Managing Director Product Testing Division I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. Hacharoshet 26, POB 211 Or Yehuda 60251, Israel Tel: 972-3-5339022 Fax: 972-3-5339019 e-mail: pmerguer...@itl.co.il website: http://www.itl.co.il --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Equipment Rental
I need to rent the following equipment (preferrably in Darlington, U.K.): * Antennas (EMC 30-1000 MHz) * Spectrum Analyzer/EMI Receiver * Pre-amp (30-1000 MHz) Anyone know of a company? Regards, Bob Heller --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: Are NTCs Safe to Use in Electrical Equipment
Raychem (www.raychem.com)is one manufacturer that have PTC's that are UL Recognized. I'm not sure if they have NTC's. We use their PTC's as resettable overload devices (in transformers mainly) in our UL Certified product line (medical). We have never had a problem with UL evaluating the devices with PTC's. We have been using them successfully for 5 years. No experience with NTC's but do know they can be used as a limiter for in-rush currents. List of companies that Mfg NTC's (UL recognized?) Western Electronic Corp 805-482-8002 Sensor Scientific 800-524-1610 (www.sensorsci.com) Ketema 714-630-0081 FYI: Sensor Scientific has a planning guide for NTC's Good Luck! -Original Message- From: Peter Merguerian [mailto:pmerguer...@itl.co.il] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 9:58 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Are NTCs Safe to Use in Electrical Equipment Dear All, I have seen some design where NTCs are used to limit inrush currents in motion controllers. Q. Are NTCs safe and reliable as means to limit inrush currents? Q. Are there safety considerations to consider for circuits employing NTCs? Q. Are there any Approved (previously evaluated) NTC components out there? I appreciate all of your comments and/or links regarding the use of NTCs in electrical equipment. Thanks Peter Merguerian Managing Director Product Testing Division I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. Hacharoshet 26, POB 211 Or Yehuda 60251, Israel Tel: 972-3-5339022 Fax: 972-3-5339019 e-mail: pmerguer...@itl.co.il website: http://www.itl.co.il --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
New Spread Spectrum-Blue Tooth Workshop
Hello Group, This is to let you know that there is a workshop/seminar dealing with spread spectrum and bluetooth given by HH enterprise, led by Don Heirman. Today is the last day for the discount. Click on the link below to access the description and registration form. http://www.telecom-info-services.com/ssbtad.pdf Robert. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
New Spread Spectrum/
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Offre d'emploi
Dans le cadre de son développement La société SMEE, située à VOIRON (38), recherche deux personnes dans les domaines suivants : 1 - LABORATOIRE CEM et Sécurité ACTIONS MESURES Laboratoire spécialisé dans les domaines de la Compatibilité Electromagnétique et de la Sécurité Basse Tension. Nous intervenons sur le plan européen (marquage CE) , mais aussi sur le plan international (FCC, UL, CSA, GS, ). 2 - Définition des postes 1. Fonction : Technicien d'essais (compatibilité électromagnétique) Réaliser les essais confiés au laboratoire dans le domaine de la Compatibilité Electromagnétique (CEM) Réalise les essais CEM en accord avec les modes opératoires et le manuel qualité. Rédaction des comptes-rendus d'essai suivant les formes pré - définies du laboratoire (français et/ou anglais). Développer une expertise dans l'interprétation et la résolution des problèmes en CEM . 2. Fonction : Technicien d'essais (sécurité électrique) Réaliser les essais confiés au laboratoire dans le domaine de la Sécurité électrique Réalise les essais de sécurité en accord avec les modes opératoires et le manuel qualité. Rédaction des comptes-rendus d'essai suivant les formes pré - définies du laboratoire (français et/ou anglais). Développer une expertise dans l'interprétation et la résolution des problèmes en sécurité. 3 - Profil recherché - Bac +2 minimum - Un minimum d'expérience dans la CEM ou la sécurité - Domaine électronique ou physique - Bonne connaissance de l'anglais - Bonne maîtrise de l'outil informatique - Disponibilité - Sens de l'organisation 4 - Conditions - Salaire suivant expérience - Contrat CDI après une période de 6 mois en CDD - Adaptation du candidat aux postes proposés Contact Jean-Pierre ORY Tél : 04 76 65 76 50 E-mail : or...@aol.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
CPSTC safety meeting notice for July 13, 2000
Greetings, For those of you who are interested in attending the Colorado Product Safety Technical Committee (CPSTC) meeting, please read on. Quick summary: NOTE Date change. 1. Next meeting: Thursday July 13, 2000 Location:Exabyte, 1685 38th Street Boulder, CO Start time will be 6:30pm. 2. Future technical paper topics. 3. Agenda for year 2000. 4. Bill LaFollette, Ron Duffy and Richard Georgerian next paper on transformers. 5. Mark Hassebrock is thinking about writing a paper also. If you plan on attending, please let me know so I can plan accordingly with the food and drinks. If you need a map, let me know. For more details please visit the Product Safety News web site: http://www.ewh.ieee.org/soc/emcs/pstc/index.htm Thanks in advance. Richard Georgerian CPSTC Chairman Product Compliance Engineer Exabyte 1685 38th Street Boulder, CO 80301 USA
Product Safety Opening in N. California
Ladies and Gentlemen, Compaq Computer Corporation is looking for a Senior Product Safety Engineer to join its Tandem Division in Cupertino, California. The qualified engineer should have at least 5 to 8 years of hands-on product safety compliance experience and have worked within Canadian Standards Association's (CSA) category certification and TUV's ACT programs. The work requires an excellent knowledge of ITE safety standards and good lab skills. The ideal candidate should be creative, technically competent, self-motivated and results oriented. He needs to be skilled at building positive relationships as an interactive team player, have strong presentation skills, be able to multi-task, fulfill commitments and develop practical solutions to problems. The position will support the development of Compaq's high availability products, from conception to production. The safety test lab facilities are excellent. Compaq has great benefits. Interested persons should reply directly to Chan Moore (chan.mo...@compaq.com mailto:chan.mo...@compaq.com , or by fax to 408-285-2553). Roger Volgstadt Tandem Division Compaq Computer Corporation --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Are NTCs Safe to Use in Electrical Equipment
Dear All, I have seen some design where NTCs are used to limit inrush currents in motion controllers. Q. Are NTCs safe and reliable as means to limit inrush currents? Q. Are there safety considerations to consider for circuits employing NTCs? Q. Are there any Approved (previously evaluated) NTC components out there? I appreciate all of your comments and/or links regarding the use of NTCs in electrical equipment. Thanks Peter Merguerian Managing Director Product Testing Division I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. Hacharoshet 26, POB 211 Or Yehuda 60251, Israel Tel: 972-3-5339022 Fax: 972-3-5339019 e-mail: pmerguer...@itl.co.il website: http://www.itl.co.il --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: Notified Body Number
I just discovered the Commission's statement on marking in the Sept. 1999 publication Guide to the implementation of directives based upon the New Approach and the Global Approach. Section 7.3 says, A notified body may be involved in the design phase, the production phase, or both, depending on the conformity assessment procedures applied. The CE marking shall only be followed by the identification number of the notified body if it is involved in the production phase. Thus the identification number of a notified body involved in conformity assessment according to Module B does not follow the CE marking. Therefore, it appears that a product subject to Annex III or IV of the RTTE must have a NB marking but, according to the above, it cannot follow the CE marking since the NB is not involved in the production phase. Richard Woods -- From: prob...@nmi.nl [SMTP:prob...@nmi.nl] Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 10:52 AM To: wo...@sensormatic.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org; t...@world.std.com Subject: Re: Notified Body Number Richard, Directive 93/68/EC (Article 5), which linked the CE marking to the EMC directive, states that the minimum height of the CE marking must be 5 mm. The Maritime Directive requires a CE marking which also includes the NB number. From the example drawing in the directive it shows that the height of the NB number is identical to the height of the CE marking. The distance of the NB number to the CE marking is based on the distance between the characters C and E. The marking for the RTTE Directive would then look like: CE XXX, where XXX is the NB number. Best regards, NMi Certin B.V. Pieter Robben Department of EMC, Telecommunications and Electrical Safety Web: www.nmicertin.com / www.nmicertin.nl wo...@sensormatic.com on 10/07/2000 14:54:46 Please respond to wo...@sensormatic.com To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org, t...@world.std.com cc:(bcc: Pieter Robben/Nmi) Subject: Notified Body Number Neither the LV nor the RTTE Directive indicates the minimal size for the Notified Body number nor do they indicate the placement of the number relative to the CE marking. Do any of the other directives or any other documents from the Commission indicate the proper way to size and place the Notified Body number? Richard Woods
Re: Notified Body Number
Richard, Directive 93/68/EC (Article 5), which linked the CE marking to the EMC directive, states that the minimum height of the CE marking must be 5 mm. The Maritime Directive requires a CE marking which also includes the NB number. From the example drawing in the directive it shows that the height of the NB number is identical to the height of the CE marking. The distance of the NB number to the CE marking is based on the distance between the characters C and E. The marking for the RTTE Directive would then look like: CE XXX, where XXX is the NB number. Best regards, NMi Certin B.V. Pieter Robben Department of EMC, Telecommunications and Electrical Safety Web: www.nmicertin.com / www.nmicertin.nl wo...@sensormatic.com on 10/07/2000 14:54:46 Please respond to wo...@sensormatic.com To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org, t...@world.std.com cc:(bcc: Pieter Robben/Nmi) Subject: Notified Body Number Neither the LV nor the RTTE Directive indicates the minimal size for the Notified Body number nor do they indicate the placement of the number relative to the CE marking. Do any of the other directives or any other documents from the Commission indicate the proper way to size and place the Notified Body number? Richard Woods
Re: EU Requirements for PSTN Equipment
from 1999/5/EC article 10; 3. Telecommunications terminal equipment which does not make use of the spectrum allocated to terrestrial/space radio communication and receiving parts of radio equipment shall be subject to the procedures described in any one of Annexes II, IV or V at the choice of the manufacturer. suggest you read the relevant annexes of RTTE directive to determine best approach list of Harmonized Standards, Notified Bodies and copy of directive are available at European Union website http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/rtte/ regards, Don Moncion Director Eng Services Cadence Design Systems Loop, Robert wrote: Group: I need detailed information on (a) which standards would apply to test a switching device (similar to a PBX machine) that connects to the PSTN on a customer site under the R TTE Directive (b) the process by which a manufacturer contacts a Notified Body in the EU for approval (c) where I can locate a list of Notified Bodies for said directive (d) is the manufacturer required to have their QA, manufacturing and design processes approved to EN 29003? My underlying assumption is that the product, which uses a cross-connect robot, would fall under the EMC, LVD and Machinery Directives also. My knowledge of the R TTE Directive is limited. As always, one cannot be an expert in everything. My thanks to those who respond in advance. Sincerely, Robert Loop Engineering Supervisor Wyle Laboratories Product Safety ph - (256) 837-4411 x313 fax- (256) 721-0144 e-mail: rl...@hnt.wylelabs.com --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: Notified Body Number
Richard, If you look on the Commission RTTE pages there is a section in the FAQs which relates to marking. This states with respect to radio equipment that uses non-harmonised frequency bands : With regard to the putting into service of these types of equipment the alert sign shall be added to the CE marking: Depending on the conformity assessment procedure followed by the manufacturer the identification numbers of the relevant Notified Bodies shall be included in the CE marking By saying that the NB number must be included in the CE marking implies that the rules governing its size, given in Annex VII of the Directive, apply to the complete marking. (Mrs) Andrea Bishop Compliance Manager BABT Product Service Ltd Segensworth Road Fareham, Hants PO15 5RH, UK Tel: +44 1329 443486 -Original Message- From: wo...@sensormatic.com [mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com] Sent: 10 July 2000 13:55 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org; t...@world.std.com Subject: Notified Body Number Neither the LV nor the RTTE Directive indicates the minimal size for the Notified Body number nor do they indicate the placement of the number relative to the CE marking. Do any of the other directives or any other documents from the Commission indicate the proper way to size and place the Notified Body number? Richard Woods --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: MIL STD 461
The DAPS link will get you only the latest release; i.e., 461E (462 is now merged into 461E). But not very many programs have reached the testing stage yet, so I still see a lot of 461D/462D requirements. You can get 461D, 462D and 464 at the SPAWAR link: http://www-chas.nosc.mil/spawar/pdf/MIL461D.PDF Ed :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-) Ed Price ed.pr...@cubic.com Electromagnetic Compatibility Lab Cubic Defense Systems San Diego, CA. USA 858-505-2780 (Voice) 858-505-1583 (Fax) Military Avionics EMC Services Is Our Specialty Shake-Bake-Shock - Metrology - Reliability Analysis :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-) -Original Message- From: Gonzalez, Rocky (Kenneth P) [mailto:kpgon...@ingr.com] Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 12:00 PM To: lfresea...@aol.com; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: MIL STD 461 Derek, This link worked for me. http://astimage.daps.dla.mil/quicksearch/ Rocky -)-(- -Original Message- From: lfresea...@aol.com [mailto:lfresea...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 9:35 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: MIL STD 461 Hi, can anyone remind me where the MIL STD 461 can be download from? Thanks, Derek. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Notified Body Number
Neither the LV nor the RTTE Directive indicates the minimal size for the Notified Body number nor do they indicate the placement of the number relative to the CE marking. Do any of the other directives or any other documents from the Commission indicate the proper way to size and place the Notified Body number? Richard Woods --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Re: EU Requirements for PSTN Equipment
Hello, My answers hereunder. Loop, Robert wrote : Group: I need detailed information on (a) which standards would apply to test a switching device (similar to a PBX machine) that connects to the PSTN on a customer site under the R TTE Directive a) You can use TBR21 standard to get part of the answer. But this test is not regulated by RTTE Directive. This directive only includes EMC and safety aspects as essential requirmeents for non-radio products. Interworking with the network (as tested by former non radio TBR) is no longer essential requirement for non radio terminal equipment. (b) the process by which a manufacturer contacts a Notified Body in the EU for approval b) If there is no radio in your product or if there is only radio receptor in it, the normal way under RTTE is to go through the Declaration of Conformity. You don't need any NB or other external authority (you can go to NB if you want but you do not have to). (c) where I can locate a list of Notified Bodies for said directive c) No list for the moment. The RTTE directive is not yet translated into national law throughout EU. It is expected that DG Entreprise will publish such a list on its web site. Useful information on : http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/rtte/index.htm (d) is the manufacturer required to have their QA, manufacturing and design processes approved to EN 29003? d) You can but you do not have to. The manufacturer (if located in EU) or the person responsible for the entry on the EU market will have to declare the conformity of the product and have internal processes to ensure that any product coming on the market is compliant with the essential requirements. I would suggest to have a QA but it is not mandatory under RTTE. (this can be considered as a quality issue regarding customers = i.e. a marketing issue not a regulatory issue!). My underlying assumption is that the product, which uses a cross-connect robot, would fall under the EMC, LVD and Machinery Directives also. My knowledge of the R TTE Directive is limited. If your product falls under RTTE directive, this directive includes EMC and LVD. Concerning Machinery, I would appreciate if specialists can answer, including relations between Machinery and RTTE, which I am not familiar at all with. And especially if there are any other safety and/or EMC issues included in the machinery directive. Regards. Corinne SALINGRE CS TELECOM, Paris, France
