Re: Participant bodies of CB scheme
Raymond, following web site answers your question http://www.cbscheme.org/cbcntris.htm Best Regards Fred Adt >>> "Raymond Li" 11/21/00 07:13PM >>> Can anyone tell me where I can find a list of participant bodies/laboratories of CB scheme. Thanks, Raymond Li Omni Source Asia Ltd --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org compliance & reliability manager a...@viewsonic.com phone (909) 444-8958 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Rechargeable Batteries
I hope you'll all be patient with what might be a question with an obvious answer: why do so many battery operated equipments state that they must not be operated using rechargeable batteries? I appreciate that NiCads have a nominal voltage of 1.2V compared to Alkaline and Zinc Chloride's 1.5V, but is there something else of which I'm not aware? Higher output impedance as they grow old? Greater chemical toxicity? More likely to leak corrosive material? More likely to explode?! Is it functionality, safety or EMC that worries the instruction book writers? Regards, Mark -- Mark Hone Wellman CJB Limited Email: m...@cjbdev.demon.co.uk Airport Service Road Tel: +44 (0)2392 629239 (Direct) Portsmouth, HampshireTel: +44 (0)2392 664911 PO3 5PG, ENGLAND Fax: +44 (0)2392 697864 --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Re: ITE Safety
Courtland, UL 1950 (and IEC 60950) clearly define their scope as "mains or battery powered" equipment up to 600V. Your 5Vdc input device does not fall within this scope, unless it also operates on batteries. The standards define a Class III device, operating at similar low dc voltages. However, this might apply to a battery powered laptop. If your device operates at SELV voltages, is powered by an external 5Vdc,and does not use batteries, I know of no mandatory UL Listing requirement. You should convince yourself that it is designed to avoid sharp edges and spread of fire. My opinion.. George Alspaugh cthomas%patton@interlock.lexmark.com on 11/22/2000 02:14:48 PM Please respond to cthomas%patton@interlock.lexmark.com To: emc-pstc%majordomo.ieee@interlock.lexmark.com cc:(bcc: George Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark) Subject: ITE Safety Hello group, I have a question considering product safety for IT equipment. If a device uses an external power supply that supplies +5V DC and has all the approvals (UL, CE), is there any need to have the device tested to UL 1950? Can the device be legally sold without the testing. If not, can someone please indicate where it is mandated that the device be tested to UL 1950. Thanks, Courtland Thomas Patton Electronics --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
ITE Safety
Hello group, I have a question considering product safety for IT equipment. If a device uses an external power supply that supplies +5V DC and has all the approvals (UL, CE), is there any need to have the device tested to UL 1950? Can the device be legally sold without the testing. If not, can someone please indicate where it is mandated that the device be tested to UL 1950. Thanks, Courtland Thomas Patton Electronics --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Nov. 17, 2000 EMC/Telco/Product Safety Update Now Available
The Curtis-Straus Update (formerly Conformity-Update) for the week ending Nov. 17, 2000 is now available at: http://www.conformity-update.com This week's headlines are: OSHA ISSUES ERGONOMIC RULES FOR THE WORKPLACE. 125 PAGES OF FCC RULES IN PART 68 ARE GONE. WHAT'S NEW AT UL. STANDARDS DEVELOPMENT. SEMINARS, MEETINGS, ETC. --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
RE: UL 1950 D3 deviations.
Hello Terry: D3 Deviations do not expire this year. 2nd Edition is dead...that is correct. Specific D3 deviations, like anything else in the standard, may be added, deleted, or changed with ammendments or editions to the UL 1950/CSA 22.2 No. 950, but in general D3 deviations are not going away. Regards, Mel Pedersen, Midcom Inc. mailto:mpeder...@midcom-inc.com (605) 882-8535 -Original Message- From: Terry Meck [mailto:tjm...@accusort.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 8:19 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: UL 1950 D3 deviations. Hi again: In the course of a design review the option of invoking a D3 deviation came up. Since we usually ship to the EU I have never allowed D3 deviations. The question came to mind that I thought the D3 deviations expired this year. Is this a foggy memory from UL 1950 2nd edition 1993 Supplement C expiring March 15, 2000? I tried to see an expiration reference in the 3rd edition but couldn't find it. Does this then amount to a `National Difference' or am I missing something in my searching of the Third edition? Best regards, Terry J. Meck Senior Compliance/Test Engineer Phone:215-721-5280 Fax:215-721-5551 hard copy; Fax PC: 215.799.1650 To my desk PC tjm...@accusort.com Accu-Sort Systems Inc. 511 School House Rd. Telford, PA 18969-1196 USA --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org <>
UL 1950 D3 deviations.
Hi again: In the course of a design review the option of invoking a D3 deviation came up. Since we usually ship to the EU I have never allowed D3 deviations. The question came to mind that I thought the D3 deviations expired this year. Is this a foggy memory from UL 1950 2nd edition 1993 Supplement C expiring March 15, 2000? I tried to see an expiration reference in the 3rd edition but couldn't find it. Does this then amount to a `National Difference' or am I missing something in my searching of the Third edition? Best regards, Terry J. Meck Senior Compliance/Test Engineer Phone:215-721-5280 Fax:215-721-5551 hard copy; Fax PC: 215.799.1650 To my desk PC tjm...@accusort.com Accu-Sort Systems Inc. 511 School House Rd. Telford, PA 18969-1196 USA --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Surge generators reliability
Hello all: We are reviewing the probability of purchasing a surge generator to do in house compliance testing to the EN 61000-4-5 standard plus up to 6KV for some customer specific requirements. We have quotes from most of the major players and the equipment ranges from very basic cost effective EN 61000-4-5 testers that go up to 2.2 KV to more Test lab orientated ungradable equipment. Questions: 1. Does anyone have any advice they would like to give in the implementation of this test? 2 . Does anyone have any bad experience or good reviews of the equipment they use that they care to share directly to me? Best regards, Terry J. Meck Senior Compliance/Test Engineer Phone:215-721-5280 Fax:215-721-5551 hard copy; Fax PC: 215.799.1650 To my desk PC tjm...@accusort.com Accu-Sort Systems Inc. 511 School House Rd. Telford, PA 18969-1196 USA --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Re: Laser Safety Product Labeling
Thomas, You need consulting from a renowned laser specialist. I recommend you contact my colleague at TUV Rheinland of North America Woody Strzelecki at TUV Rheinland of North America; he will guide you to exactly what is required. His e-mail is wstrzele...@us.tuv.com. One note I have to mention is that classification is made based on normal conditions and single fault conditions. Good luck and do not look into that fiber! At 11:27 21/11/2000 -0800, Courtland Thomas wrote: > >Hello group, > >Does anyone have any experience with product labeling equipment, that use >lasers. I have a situation where a Class 3B laser is used, however after the >power attenuation through the fiber cable, the output power is only 800uW >max. This power actually could be considered Class 2, however the wavelength >is 1300nm, which falls into the invisible light spectrum. Therefore, I plan >to label the product Class 3A. If there are any errors in my reasoning, >please let me know. I want to place a caution label (all that is required >for this output level) on the top of the product, but my marketing people >don't want it displayed there because they feel that it may hamper sales. >Unfortunately, marketing has too much authority, so I am looking for a >standard that mandates where the label should go. Everything I have read >only makes suggestions, but I need more than that. > >Thanks in advance, > >Courtland Thomas >Patton Electronics > > >--- >This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety >Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. > >To cancel your subscription, send mail to: > majord...@ieee.org >with the single line: > unsubscribe emc-pstc > >For help, send mail to the list administrators: > Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com > Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org > >For policy questions, send mail to: > Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org > > Peter Merguerian Managing Director Product Testing Division I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd. Hacharoshet 26, POB 211 Or Yehuda 60251, Israel Tel: 972-3-5339022 Fax: 972-3-5339019 e-mail: pmerguer...@itl.co.il website: http://www.itl.co.il TO LEARN ABOUT AUSTRALIAN AND NEW ZEALAND REQUIREMENTS, CONTACT ME AT THE EARLIEST STAGES OF YOUR DESIGN; REQUIREMENTS CAN BE TRICKY! --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Re: Participant bodies of CB scheme
Have a look in: http://www.cbscheme.org/cbcntris.htm - Click on the country /NCB that you are interested in. - From there you then have the possibility to click on this NCB`s CBTLs ("NCB laboratory") Best Regards /Randolf "Raymond Li" ia.com.HK> cc: Sent by:Subject: Participant bodies of CB scheme owner-emc-p...@ieee.org 00/11/22 12:13 PM Please respond to "Raymond Li" Can anyone tell me where I can find a list of participant bodies/laboratories of CB scheme. Thanks, Raymond Li Omni Source Asia Ltd --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org
Participant bodies of CB scheme
Can anyone tell me where I can find a list of participant bodies/laboratories of CB scheme. Thanks, Raymond Li Omni Source Asia Ltd --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc-pstc discussion list. To cancel your subscription, send mail to: majord...@ieee.org with the single line: unsubscribe emc-pstc For help, send mail to the list administrators: Jim Bacher: jim_bac...@mail.monarch.com Michael Garretson:pstc_ad...@garretson.org For policy questions, send mail to: Richard Nute: ri...@ieee.org