Re: Participant bodies of CB scheme

2000-11-22 Thread Friedemann Adt

Raymond,

following web site answers your question http://www.cbscheme.org/cbcntris.htm

Best Regards
Fred Adt
>>> "Raymond Li"  11/21/00 07:13PM >>>

Can anyone tell me where I can find a list of participant
bodies/laboratories of CB scheme.

Thanks,

Raymond Li
Omni Source Asia Ltd


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Rechargeable Batteries

2000-11-22 Thread Mark

I hope you'll all be patient with what might be a question with an 
obvious answer: why do so many battery operated equipments 
state that they must not be operated using rechargeable batteries?

I appreciate that NiCads have a nominal voltage of 1.2V compared 
to Alkaline and Zinc Chloride's 1.5V, but is there something else of 
which I'm not aware?  Higher output impedance as they grow old?  
Greater chemical toxicity?  More likely to leak corrosive material?
More likely to explode?!

Is it functionality, safety or EMC that worries the instruction book 
writers?

Regards,  Mark
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Re: ITE Safety

2000-11-22 Thread georgea

Courtland,

UL 1950 (and IEC 60950) clearly define their scope as "mains or battery
powered" equipment up to 600V.  Your 5Vdc input device does not fall within
this scope, unless it also operates on batteries.

The standards define a Class III device, operating at similar low dc voltages.
However, this might apply to a battery powered laptop.

If your device operates at SELV voltages, is powered by an external 5Vdc,and
does not use batteries, I know of no mandatory UL Listing requirement.  You
should convince yourself that it is designed to avoid sharp edges and spread
of fire.

My opinion..

George Alspaugh




cthomas%patton@interlock.lexmark.com on 11/22/2000 02:14:48 PM

Please respond to cthomas%patton@interlock.lexmark.com

To:   emc-pstc%majordomo.ieee@interlock.lexmark.com
cc:(bcc: George Alspaugh/Lex/Lexmark)
Subject:  ITE Safety


Hello group,

I have a question considering product safety for IT equipment. If a device
uses an external power supply that supplies +5V DC and has all the approvals
(UL, CE), is there any need to have the device tested to UL 1950? Can the
device be legally sold without the testing. If not, can someone please
indicate where it is mandated that the device be tested to UL 1950.

Thanks,

Courtland Thomas
Patton Electronics




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ITE Safety

2000-11-22 Thread Courtland Thomas

Hello group,

I have a question considering product safety for IT equipment. If a device
uses an external power supply that supplies +5V DC and has all the approvals
(UL, CE), is there any need to have the device tested to UL 1950? Can the
device be legally sold without the testing. If not, can someone please
indicate where it is mandated that the device be tested to UL 1950.

Thanks,

Courtland Thomas
Patton Electronics


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Nov. 17, 2000 EMC/Telco/Product Safety Update Now Available

2000-11-22 Thread Glen Dash

The Curtis-Straus Update (formerly Conformity-Update) for the week
ending Nov. 17, 2000 is now available at:

http://www.conformity-update.com

This week's headlines are:

OSHA ISSUES ERGONOMIC RULES FOR THE WORKPLACE. 
125 PAGES OF FCC RULES IN PART 68 ARE GONE. 
WHAT'S NEW AT UL. 
STANDARDS DEVELOPMENT. 
SEMINARS, MEETINGS, ETC.

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RE: UL 1950 D3 deviations.

2000-11-22 Thread Mel Pedersen
Hello Terry:

D3 Deviations do not expire this year.  2nd Edition is dead...that is
correct.  Specific D3 deviations, like anything else in the standard, may be
added, deleted, or changed with ammendments or editions to the UL 1950/CSA
22.2 No. 950, but in general D3 deviations are not going away.

Regards,

Mel Pedersen, Midcom Inc.
mailto:mpeder...@midcom-inc.com
(605) 882-8535


-Original Message-
From: Terry Meck [mailto:tjm...@accusort.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 8:19 AM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: UL 1950 D3 deviations.



Hi again:

In the course of a design review the option of invoking a D3 deviation came
up.  Since we usually ship to the EU I have never allowed D3 deviations.

The question came to mind that I thought the D3 deviations expired this
year.
Is this a foggy memory from UL 1950 2nd edition 1993 Supplement C expiring
March 15, 2000?

I tried to see an expiration reference in the 3rd edition but couldn't find
it.  Does this then amount to a `National Difference' or am I missing
something in my searching of the Third edition?



Best regards,
Terry J. Meck
Senior Compliance/Test Engineer
Phone:215-721-5280
Fax:215-721-5551 hard copy;
Fax PC: 215.799.1650 To my desk PC
tjm...@accusort.com
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UL 1950 D3 deviations.

2000-11-22 Thread Terry Meck

Hi again:

In the course of a design review the option of invoking a D3 deviation came up. 
 Since we usually ship to the EU I have never allowed D3 deviations.

The question came to mind that I thought the D3 deviations expired this year.
Is this a foggy memory from UL 1950 2nd edition 1993 Supplement C expiring 
March 15, 2000?

I tried to see an expiration reference in the 3rd edition but couldn't find it. 
 Does this then amount to a `National Difference' or am I missing something in 
my searching of the Third edition?



Best regards,
Terry J. Meck
Senior Compliance/Test Engineer
Phone:215-721-5280
Fax:215-721-5551 hard copy;
Fax PC: 215.799.1650 To my desk PC
tjm...@accusort.com
Accu-Sort Systems Inc.
511 School House Rd.
Telford, PA 18969-1196 USA



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Surge generators reliability

2000-11-22 Thread Terry Meck

Hello all:

We are reviewing the probability of purchasing a surge generator to do in house 
compliance testing to the EN 61000-4-5 standard plus up to 6KV for some 
customer specific requirements.

We have quotes from most of the major players and the equipment ranges from 
very basic cost effective EN 61000-4-5 testers that go up to 2.2 KV to more 
Test lab orientated ungradable equipment.

Questions:

1.  Does anyone have any advice they would like to give in the implementation 
of this test?

2 .  Does anyone have any bad experience or good reviews of the equipment they 
use that they care to share directly to me?




Best regards,
Terry J. Meck
Senior Compliance/Test Engineer
Phone:215-721-5280
Fax:215-721-5551 hard copy;
Fax PC: 215.799.1650 To my desk PC
tjm...@accusort.com
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Telford, PA 18969-1196 USA



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Re: Laser Safety Product Labeling

2000-11-22 Thread Peter Merguerian

Thomas,

You need consulting from a renowned laser specialist. I recommend you
contact my colleague at TUV Rheinland of North America Woody Strzelecki at
TUV Rheinland of North America; he will guide you to exactly what is
required. His e-mail is wstrzele...@us.tuv.com.

One note I have to mention is that classification is made based on normal
conditions and single fault conditions.

Good luck and do not look into that fiber!


At 11:27 21/11/2000 -0800, Courtland Thomas wrote:
>
>Hello group,
>
>Does anyone have any experience with product labeling equipment, that use
>lasers. I have a situation where a Class 3B laser is used, however after the
>power attenuation through the fiber cable, the output power is only 800uW
>max. This power actually could be considered Class 2, however the wavelength
>is 1300nm, which falls into the invisible light spectrum. Therefore, I plan
>to label the product Class 3A. If there are any errors in my reasoning,
>please let me know. I want to place a caution label (all that is required
>for this output level) on the top of the product, but my marketing people
>don't want it displayed there because they feel that it may hamper sales.
>Unfortunately, marketing has too much authority, so I am looking for a
>standard that mandates where the label should go. Everything I have read
>only makes suggestions, but I need more than that.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Courtland Thomas
>Patton Electronics
>
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Re: Participant bodies of CB scheme

2000-11-22 Thread Randolf Keller/Jpn/TUV


Have a look in:

http://www.cbscheme.org/cbcntris.htm

- Click on the country /NCB that you are interested in.

- From there you then have the possibility to click on this NCB`s CBTLs
("NCB laboratory")

Best Regards
/Randolf







  
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Can anyone tell me where I can find a list of participant
bodies/laboratories of CB scheme.

Thanks,

Raymond Li
Omni Source Asia Ltd


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Participant bodies of CB scheme

2000-11-22 Thread Raymond Li

Can anyone tell me where I can find a list of participant
bodies/laboratories of CB scheme.

Thanks,

Raymond Li
Omni Source Asia Ltd


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